[Farmboy]

That's a pretty wishy-washy defense but whatever.

Why is my statement wishy-washy?

I have tried to tell if something is issue or aftermarket from pictures and it's very hard if you don't have a good look at the pockets etc.

Off the top of my head I can name 7 dealers including myself that sell CADPAT clothing and gear.

Take four sets of different pants from these dealers and put them on guys in the field, and then take a picture and tell me which pair is the issue ones.

I'm not saying civies don't have issued gear, just that you would have to personally inspect them to find them.

I'm sure as well that if I put my issued kit up for sale on ebay or any forum and showed the labels there would be a few people getting just as cranky.