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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus
That IS with a flat trajectory. If I adjust the hop to put a hump in the path, it's closer to 280-300ft. BUT, in 10yrs, it seems every damn time I put a hump in the path, I need to hit someone right where the damn hump is, so I leave it at that flat to gentle sloping down trajectory.
Max range is subjective, but (unofficially) it's basically the furthest distance your BB can go while still aiming AT your target. So you can increase your range by increasing hop and putting a hump in the path, but I don't like to count that since you're now not able to engage a prone target at whatever range your hump is at.
It also depends on elevation, either by arcing BBs or just being higher than your target. Now my max/effective range is 260ft, BUT I've also hit someone at 350ft before by having a 100ft advantage in elevation. Mind you I was also aiming a good 40ft above their head! So I agree that doesn't count as a max range in normal circumstances.
Effective range is where you can hit a target consistently with every shot if your gun was in a vice. Human target is around 20" grouping, so once you're over that, it's beyond your effective range.
Now your effective range should ideally also be your maximum range. But some guns shoot further than they can hit. Easiest way to simulate this is by using .20s. They might fly 200ft, but they might have a 5ft grouping when they get there.
But yeah, 200ft is very poor range for .30s at 2j. You should easily be in the 300ft+ range with that. So clearly, you need a hop upgrade!
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Thanks again! The flat hop isn't too bad compared to how it was stock, but I have some ideas in mind. Got a Maple Leaf bucking I've been meaning to try...
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Originally Posted by Syndakit
If you are looking at further improving your Tippmann M4's performance, the Tippmann owners group on facebook would be the best place to do it, not here unfortunately. (Not knocking the forum, its a great place!)
You should be looking to do the TDC mod (Top Dead Centre) to it, the hop up is the Tippmann's weakest component in the eyes of many. But hey, not bad for their first venture into the airsoft market.
Also, as someone has mentioned, it will perform better on HPA.
I hope you are enjoying your tippmann as much as I am!  |
I certainly am! Thanks. Yeah, I've been on that page for awhile, just like to hear from others with other setups.
I'm thinking I might try the Incentive Design hopup. I don't believe any tapping is required there as they've created a fitting that basically does the same thing, but slides in and is held by the hopup screw--adjusted at the top like the TDC. I also have a Malpe Leaf bucking laying around I might try with this set up.
I've been using the 3d printed long flat hop nub. It's been a great improvement over how mine was stock, but I like to tinker and experiment, usually the results are worth it!
Thanks for posting.
-Shreddy