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ThunderCactus · October 10th, 2015, 20:40

If you have the money, you COULD go HPA, but the only benefits it really has is a 5yr old girl can cock it. And you have to change the line on each mag.
In terms of pure performance, there's no difference what so ever in the range or accuracy between HPA and spring
In terms of being quiet, the HPA rifle is quieter to the person shooting it, but my VSR didn't even have an air brake in the beginning and you still couldn't hear it shoot from 15ft away

If we're talking minimum build price for best performance, you're not going to see very much difference in terms of accuracy by saving $500 on parts.
Most expensive upgrade is going to be the gun (obviously), then barrel, at around $85 for the laylax 6.03
The trigger just needs sears to be reliable at higher 350-400fps, that's like $45, unless you want the $75 PDI sears, then just spend the extra $90 on the V-trigger
Hop rubber, either $20 for the firefly, or $45-$60 for an Rhop
The stock VSR chamber is honestly FINE
And then the cylinder set just needs to compress consistently, which usually means a re-greasing and maybe a new O-ring at the very worst
Then throw a $50 mil-dot scope on it

When people start throwing junk at you like PDI barrel spacers, reinforced 700fps capable PDI pistons, $150 custom build hop chambers, and crap like that, you don't need it. You just don't.
There is literally zero performance difference between a stock cylinder that shoots 380 +/-2fps and a $300 PDI cylinder that shoots 380 +/-2fps
The stock barrel spacer just needs a teflon wrap to make it a bit tighter and that's as secure as the expensive PDI spacer.
Stock G-spec comes with an airbrake piston, so it'll be dead silent anyway.
The other stuff, like the V-trigger and PDI piston, either just enhances reliability, or changes the handling.

So there you go. Get a stock rifle for $300 or so, spend $200 on upgrades, and you should get some pretty impressive accuracy at the 250-280ft mark. Shot performance isn't nearly as hard to achieve as people make it seem; even on AEG's you usually just have to ensure it gets consistent and good compression, then change the barrel group. Everything else is just reliability or trigger response.

October 10th, 2015, 20:40	#14
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	If you have the money, you COULD go HPA, but the only benefits it really has is a 5yr old girl can cock it. And you have to change the line on each mag. In terms of pure performance, there's no difference what so ever in the range or accuracy between HPA and spring In terms of being quiet, the HPA rifle is quieter to the person shooting it, but my VSR didn't even have an air brake in the beginning and you still couldn't hear it shoot from 15ft away If we're talking minimum build price for best performance, you're not going to see very much difference in terms of accuracy by saving $500 on parts. Most expensive upgrade is going to be the gun (obviously), then barrel, at around $85 for the laylax 6.03 The trigger just needs sears to be reliable at higher 350-400fps, that's like $45, unless you want the $75 PDI sears, then just spend the extra $90 on the V-trigger Hop rubber, either $20 for the firefly, or $45-$60 for an Rhop The stock VSR chamber is honestly FINE And then the cylinder set just needs to compress consistently, which usually means a re-greasing and maybe a new O-ring at the very worst Then throw a $50 mil-dot scope on it When people start throwing junk at you like PDI barrel spacers, reinforced 700fps capable PDI pistons, $150 custom build hop chambers, and crap like that, you don't need it. You just don't. There is literally zero performance difference between a stock cylinder that shoots 380 +/-2fps and a $300 PDI cylinder that shoots 380 +/-2fps The stock barrel spacer just needs a teflon wrap to make it a bit tighter and that's as secure as the expensive PDI spacer. Stock G-spec comes with an airbrake piston, so it'll be dead silent anyway. The other stuff, like the V-trigger and PDI piston, either just enhances reliability, or changes the handling. So there you go. Get a stock rifle for $300 or so, spend $200 on upgrades, and you should get some pretty impressive accuracy at the 250-280ft mark. Shot performance isn't nearly as hard to achieve as people make it seem; even on AEG's you usually just have to ensure it gets consistent and good compression, then change the barrel group. Everything else is just reliability or trigger response.