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Old August 13th, 2015, 01:27   #18
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Originally Posted by 8bitninja View Post
E-luder did you delete your message or perhaps editing? I'm certainly open to suggestions or criticism on testing effective range. I understand it can vary based on environmental factors but there should be a somewhat standard measure indoors where not much changes other than humidity.

Having said that, generally repeatable results is what I'd look for at a set distance. So, if my standard engagement distance in my fireteam is around 60ft, I'd be sure I can be accurate at tha distance. From there, I'd step back until the groupings or perhaps hitting a hanging pot fails too much. Add in an arbitrary margin of say 25% reduction in distance and call it a day -- or until the next test. That's all I've got for now I'm not going to go crazy and ensure the mags have warmers between shots, or only measure a mag after 3 shots to take the edge off. I would want to find the maximum accurate engagement distance -- deducting a healthy margin for repeatability. Anything more and I'd be chasing the white rabbit.
The standardized testing you want is not plausible.

You can't test under one condition and use the gun in another expecting the same results (unless it's something like an AEG)

Keep in mind, when you actually use these weapons, you'll be in a state of duress. Thus, the way you think from when you're in your testing environment will be different from when you're actually in a firefight. Sometimes, disciplines fly out the window when people are trying to communicate with you while you're trying to suppress. Things like the importance of a trigger pull/squeeze, precise target acquisition and grip registrations are all lost in the wind.

Hell, even the smallest environmental differences will skew your results from place to place indoors or not. Who knows. One place can be cooler than another or a sudden gust of wind from the ventillation fans (or just windy day) can all skew the BB's flight path.

Testing can only get you so far in terms of you're gun customization. It's all about real time use and how you operate the firearm during this time of duress. That's where you asses where (or if) you need to make modifications.

By what definition are you trying to convey when you say things like accuracy and range?

Every new player I encounter always have a misunderstood definition of the words in airsoft terms. This is not to say you are a "new" player per se but rather gauging where you've learned these definitions and how they apply to airsoft projectiles.

60ft range is attainable. It's not hard to do. However, I will advise you to think about that engagement before you actually get out there and try it and if that G17 is the right gun to use for that situation...
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