December 17th, 2014, 19:16
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#55
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Danger Zone
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Originally Posted by lVlittens
So i'm just going to chime in on a few points. You may take it as you wish.
Who I am - People call me Mittens. I am a paintballer (sp00ky Scarryyy) I have played both paintball and airsoft. I have reffed more airsoft than paintball (I do enjoy reffing airsoft) I used to be hard into airsoft as a young gun so I do have more than a general idea on both games.
After reading this post I can't help but post. Ignorance kills my soul and I just can't get around some things that have been said.
This being said I stopped reading after page 2.(But it looks like the thread pissed away afterwards)
I also understand this is an airsoft forum so with due respect, some of you may not like what I have to say.
First of all lets hit "Maturity"
Last time I checked the mature thing to do when you see a post you don't like or find offensive is to simply not reply to it. Leave it alone and let the conversation continue without hindrance.
-Cough-
"Maturity in paintball" vs "Maturity in airsoft"
You are lying to yourself if you think paintball is any less mature than airsoft. Lying through your teeth. There is immaturity everywhere in every crevice and I will tell you from experience I have seen more trolling, hatred, mixed offensive opinions, cheaters, liars, immaturity coming out of airsoft BST's and forums than I've seen anywhere else on the internet. To say your game is any more mature than anything else in the world is blind ignorance. There is immaturity in both paintball and airsoft.
Take that as you will.
To answer your age question the average age of paintballers is 22.4 years.
P.S. A childs game is hop scotch. Paintball is defined as an extreme sport.
Airsoft is merely a sport.
Addressing the "Mess" Paint washes off with a garden hose and dish detergent if it's a big mess. If you get into paintball chances are you stop caring about possible stains or left over paint on gear after a month or two(I did)
Addressing mess once more: From what I have seen as a referee paintballers can be just as lazy as airsofters but generally, airsofters tend to be afraid of getting dirty. Atleast the ones around me do. (Which to me drives me crazy with confusion, if i'm not sweaty and dirty by the end of the day I didn't have a good time)
Addressing community. The community in a hunting club is the same damn type of community in a paintball field and an airsoft field. Likewise with football and soccer. Wherever there is a hobby, people make a community that is usually extremely similar. To tell me your community is any better than the hot dog eating enthusiasts is asinine. I would tell you paintball has a better community of acceptance but we wouldn't react any different to an airsofter posting pictures of his guns on a paintball site.
Addressing Range (This is my favorite argued topic)
Lets talk about EFFECTIVE range guys. First off, How far you can shoot means absolutly nothing in either games. The only thing that matters is how far you can shoot and have a player call their hit.
If you swear your hop up can help you shoot 100 yards (I don't believe it sorry) That's cool. But will the player even feel the hit? Let alone call it.
If your effective range is 50 yards and a paintballs effective range is 50 yards. What is the real difference in range other than you have a hop up to help the bb fly slightly straighter than a paintball? Effective range is effective range. It's completely reliant on how far a hit can be acknowledged or the paint breaks.
And I can tell you from first hand experience at 25 yards people are either down right cheating or they just aren't feeling the hits.
Food for thought on that.
The argument with the hop up is a argument I have to admit I don't know much about. But I have been learning more about it. So lets touch on hop ups.
A hop up is a way you can compensate for the trajectory by putting a back spin on your bb. However, you can also send the bb into an arc using the hop up(done this before. Not sure if fluke or naw) If you get your hop up just right you can force the bb into a backspin that carries the bb in a straighter flight path.
However this comes at a cost.
You loose muzzle velocity first off. And second off I can tell you from seeing it as a ref when the bb drops off, it drops off hard. It isn't an arc. Because as previously read, the backspin helps carry the bb further and flatter even at lower velocities.
Unfortunately this affect can cause the perception of cheating. As you saw the bb "Hit him" when really it dropped off before the target.
And again the subject of hop ups is new to me, but this is my current gatherings.
One of my favorite things I've seen through this experiment is the "Paintball trying to be something it's not" Which to me is extremely ignorant. Paintball is a game where you shoot a paint filled gel capsule at a target. The means of which the gel capsule is delivered is irrelevant. What you are looking at is markers designed for Milsim purposes. Which as airsofters you probably understand there is a difference between a walk on day and an milsim event. Just as there is a difference between a competetive airsoft team and a milsim airsoft team.
Cost:
Cost is a widely touched on subject. The way i'll put it is this way.
On average I spend about 25 bucks a day of play. I usually don't shoot 500 paintballs per day. I only need one air fill and I pay entry.
After becoming a ref and joining the fields local team. I don't pay entry or air anymore. So my cost is strictly paint and 12grams for my sidearm.
But comparing daily cost. My cost was the same as an airsofter going to play. As airsoft entry usually runs higher than 10 bucks. Then you have your ammunition. And if your battery goes(If your running Aeg) your done for the day. There is no "Refill"
Regarding cost on startup gear. Mag fed paintball costs pretty much the same as airsoft for a GOOD setup. So where a good airsoft gun is usually about 300-400 dollars plus the upgrades that makes your airsoft gun worthwhile to work on and have(You know, new barrel, maybe new parts to your gearbox. Etc.. I don't know the works) the cost comes out to about the same. With paintball being slightly more expensive.
Both games are very fun to play. To choose either because you like this or that shows your character. While myself i'll never "Become an airsofter" i'm not objectified to picking up an airsoft gun and playing a game or two.
So don't take my comments the wrong way. Paintball definately has it's flaws. So does airsoft.
Both games also have their perks. Paintball has attributes that airsoft doesn't have. Such as game immersion. Because of how loud the game is, how for the win players are at scenarios, how hard the projectiles hit, and how messy and sweaty the game gets. Paintball has a more immersive game. IN MY OPINION.
Paintball to me, feels more competitive and demands more of me as a player.
Personally, i'm more concerned about function over form. And Gameplay over looks.
While I still wear a swag kit (Crye or die mofuks) and my gun is pretty much 1:1 scale. I still concern with the function of what I wear and what I do.
I prefer paintball because it provides me with what I look for in a competitive game.
Mag fed provides me with the experience I enjoy. From stacking my mags to counting my shots.
But i'm probably a different player than you.
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Trollcrusher One this is Had Enough Actual.
Push in on this if you are you looking for work.
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