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Originally Posted by HKGhost
I hope I'm not bursting anyone's bubble, but I found most of not all the "New" G&P guns in north America to be all shit. Yes the externals are still nice, but the gearbox is just a POS. Almost all the G&P guns that has came across my bench in the last year has all the same issues. Bad gears, QC issues, upper and lower receivers not fitting into each other, and the list goes on. Ones that have came across the pond seems to be much better. This is just my experience and what I've seen lately. If you're gonna get a new G&P gun, make sure it's not from the US. It seems that's where the POS are coming from. Any other gundocs notice this?
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Add to that list:
- mag catch alignment
- hopup unit burring or cast-size issues
- missing motors. Yep, G&P C8s that come with no motor! Not a joke!
- front-most receiver pin flying out during games due to loose upper/lower fit.
- unnecessarily fat 16 gauge wiring that gets chewed to shreds by the pinion gear as soon as it loosens up.
- snapping gear shafts
- stripping pistol grip cap screws
- motor adjustment screws that fly out (not every pistol grip on the market needs threadlock you know)
- strangely bent spring guides (this is a new one)
- singing springs (
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- shitty G&P M120 motors in setups that have M120-M140 springs in them (what's the expected service time on these guns, 3 days?).
- rusting delta rings
- 1-2mm gap between MOE pistol grip and gearbox surface, your motor grip screws cross a 1mm gap even when tightened. Makes pinion to bevel alignment an "adventure".
I would maybe add "soft pinion gears" to the list but I find that no matter how soft the pinion gear is, once you get your setup properly aligned and shimmed the pinions stop mushing and everything is cool.
All that said, their high end neo motors are decent if you are already getting one for free with the gun, their air seal nozzles are great, and the actual gearbox shells themselves are excellent and super solid and compatible with everything out there, the stock barrels are quite good, and the 8mm bearings aren't bad either. I'm also a big fan of the quality and fitment of their aftermarket metal bodies, which come with a lot of nice little extra bits and are a great value overall.