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wildcard · September 4th, 2012, 14:35

For those who have no idea who are FIGHT CLUB CUSTOM http://www.ptwcustom.com/, they are a small enthusiast and player based company that provide Systema PTW user with after market products such as motors, electronics control boards, barrels etc. To this date their products have won scores of fans around the world that have been frustrated by Systema lack of product inprovement in particular their motors. Although they have received some negative exposure, their products and Youtube videos have proven otherwise. I personally was quite skeptical about their mechbox, ECU and motors as I have a few that was already tuned by Tac and DTT but after a catastrophic failure on my PTWCQB-R I purchased a replacement from Systema I was not impressed not only did the upgrades sucked, the motor wound up burning itself out after a few mags, in frustration I purchased a 2.5 motor package direct from FCC, I was impressed the performance even outperforms my Tac/DTT tuned PTWM4 and especially my 2012 non evolution model. After getting rid of ALL my Systema PTW (from a 07/08 to 2012 non evolution M16 and M4) I plunged right in to their custom build rifle. It took quite a while to decide what kind of build, the back and forth communication with Lung at FCC was worth the wait, after that the comms with my PTW dealer Chris at DTT was even smoother. I decide to settle on their “rogue hunter” model with a few upgrades such as their Noveske NST rails and some Magpul goodness. I highly recommend Double Tap Tactical and FCC full custom rifle for those who wants no hassle, no issue performance out of your PTW they are worth every dollar!

This will be a point form review of my FCC PTW Custom Noveske 13"rifle ordered through Double Tap Tactical from Fight Club Custom from HK, this is rifle 1 out of 3 that was ordered and a second shorter upper was also ordered for this rifle arriving end of August. I will update this review every month.

Specs:

VELOCITY MUR CNC Upper Receiver
FCC CNC Lower Receiver (Noveske FFL)
FCC Selector Switch Board
FCC Mini Mosfet (Switch Device)
AK advanced CPU (3 burst/auto)
FCC CNC completed Gear Box SPEED
FCC Trigger,hammer,full auto sear pin& selector cap decoration set
Rampo's Complete PMAG-black
TROY ambi-Charging Handle
FCC Assist Knob Set
FCC NBUS2 SIGHT-BLACK
FCC NST TROY TRX 13" (Instead of TROY 13 “ rail)
FCC NOVESKE low profile Gas Block
FCC ASAP End Plate
FCC Troy Medival Flash Hider
FCC UBR Buff Stock
FCC MIAD GRIP (Black)
FCC completed tightbore inner barrel system 14.5”
FCC Blackout 300 Multi Barrel 14.5" (black)
FCC ShootingTeam Dust Cover set
FCC G2 2.5 motor (For Systema PTW use only)
CNC QD Pivot Pin Set (YH style) *for both PTW & GBB*
AK enhance Bolt Stop set (Wilson Combat)
FCC Troy Trigger Guard
FCC Troy Ambi-mag catch
AK BAD ASS Selector set
VELOCITY M135 Cylinder - 400fps w.20
VELOCITY M115 Cylinder - 374fps w.20
VELOCITY M90 Cylinder - 347fps w.20

First off the price I payed for the FCC is not much more than a BNIB 2012 Systema PTW with all bells and whistles in fact if I were to do the same it would have cost me an extra grand

Positive points
- Full moisture proof
- quality build, construction/assembly, QC and packaging, top notch CNC work on every part that goes into the mechbox
- high quality custom in house built parts
- Factory tested and distributor tested for any performance issue before arriving to my hands
- light weight compared to a Prime body PTW of the same length
- faster, quieter and cooler operating temp performance from the 2.5motor compared to the 2012 Systema motor
- Tri burst and full auto function
- Mini ECU allowing you to use 15C LiPo without damaging the ECU
- Full no hassle customer info assistance through website, facebook, forums and emails with distributor and tech support
- crisp trigger response, better than a stock PTW
- light weight CNC body not as heavy as Prime but very clean, crisp and amazing finish I would have bought more of their body if i have any Systema PTW left
- upcoming new products such as their rumored ANGEL KING TW system (AK PTW for those AK fans)

Bad points
- Limited supply, due to the popularity of their products you may have to wait a few weeks or months for custom rifle
- Small operation compared to Systema
- Price, maybe a bit expensive for some

UPDATE 1Longevity test 1 August 20th, 2012Loaded up ALL 24 Sytema mags and 18 FCC Vanaras based mags, PTW powered by Hot power 11.1V 1300mah 15C LiPo, King Arms 11.1V 1100mah 15C and airsoftparts 7.4V 1300mah 20C, M115, M135 Cylinder

- consistent 388-387fps with bastard .25 with the red Systema cylinder I’m suspecting the minor loss in fps was due to the longer inner barrel
- M115 cylinder with .20 = 365fps w.20bb bastard
- M135 cylinder with .20 = 395fps-392fps w.20bb bastard
- M95 cylinder with .20 = 339fps-335fps w.20bb bastard
- very consistent bullseye at 50ft
- Motor seemed to get smoother after 4 mags
- after nonstop firing all 42 mags with the exception of reloading mags the motor is a bit warm but not as warm as a 2012 Systema (1mag semi then 1 mag at triburst and auto)
- 11.1 LiPo needs to be changed after when I did a continous 27 mag triburst dump (alarm went off) it may last a lot longer if you do single shot
- No misfeeds no misfire after alternate switching modes
- need to file some very sharp edges from the NST rails
- No visible wear on the mechbox, gears or piston, all gears allignment are still centered and no excess grease visible
- Low voltage protection is a big plus for guys like me it allow me to run 7.4V LiPo without worries

A normal PTW can't do this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoTD...eature=g-all-u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzEm...eature=g-all-u
FCC Advanced CPU for Systema PTW (3 burst) - YouTube

Pictures to follow

UPDATE 2 - September 20th, 2012
- Finished another set of testing plus a complete day of gaming (another combined 16bags of bastards .25), a few in sets in the rain with no issue or stopage, motor is running like butter
- Tried the new 11.1 1100mah batteries from elite airsoft they fit the buffer tub better
- a few more FCC parts installed for my NST rail
- a short upper coming soon

UPDATE 3 - September 22nd, 2012- received the 9"upper from DTT
- great finish, the new MUR upper is even nicer than the original
- gamed with it using the M90 cylinder, shoots 347fps with the Noveske firepig the sound is scary especially at full auto
- due to the shorter inner barrel distance is not as much as the 14" barrel 50-60ft and the spread is a lot larger at the end not as tight as the longer barrel
- finish and fitting are top notch no issue or misallignment

NEXT UP - FCC HK416D full build

September 4th, 2012, 14:35	#1
wildcard Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In my man cave	Fight club custom For those who have no idea who are FIGHT CLUB CUSTOM http://www.ptwcustom.com/, they are a small enthusiast and player based company that provide Systema PTW user with after market products such as motors, electronics control boards, barrels etc. To this date their products have won scores of fans around the world that have been frustrated by Systema lack of product inprovement in particular their motors. Although they have received some negative exposure, their products and Youtube videos have proven otherwise. I personally was quite skeptical about their mechbox, ECU and motors as I have a few that was already tuned by Tac and DTT but after a catastrophic failure on my PTWCQB-R I purchased a replacement from Systema I was not impressed not only did the upgrades sucked, the motor wound up burning itself out after a few mags, in frustration I purchased a 2.5 motor package direct from FCC, I was impressed the performance even outperforms my Tac/DTT tuned PTWM4 and especially my 2012 non evolution model. After getting rid of ALL my Systema PTW (from a 07/08 to 2012 non evolution M16 and M4) I plunged right in to their custom build rifle. It took quite a while to decide what kind of build, the back and forth communication with Lung at FCC was worth the wait, after that the comms with my PTW dealer Chris at DTT was even smoother. I decide to settle on their “rogue hunter” model with a few upgrades such as their Noveske NST rails and some Magpul goodness. I highly recommend Double Tap Tactical and FCC full custom rifle for those who wants no hassle, no issue performance out of your PTW they are worth every dollar! This will be a point form review of my FCC PTW Custom Noveske 13"rifle ordered through Double Tap Tactical from Fight Club Custom from HK, this is rifle 1 out of 3 that was ordered and a second shorter upper was also ordered for this rifle arriving end of August. I will update this review every month. Specs: VELOCITY MUR CNC Upper Receiver FCC CNC Lower Receiver (Noveske FFL) FCC Selector Switch Board FCC Mini Mosfet (Switch Device) AK advanced CPU (3 burst/auto) FCC CNC completed Gear Box SPEED FCC Trigger,hammer,full auto sear pin& selector cap decoration set Rampo's Complete PMAG-black TROY ambi-Charging Handle FCC Assist Knob Set FCC NBUS2 SIGHT-BLACK FCC NST TROY TRX 13" (Instead of TROY 13 “ rail) FCC NOVESKE low profile Gas Block FCC ASAP End Plate FCC Troy Medival Flash Hider FCC UBR Buff Stock FCC MIAD GRIP (Black) FCC completed tightbore inner barrel system 14.5” FCC Blackout 300 Multi Barrel 14.5" (black) FCC ShootingTeam Dust Cover set FCC G2 2.5 motor (For Systema PTW use only) CNC QD Pivot Pin Set (YH style) for both PTW & GBB AK enhance Bolt Stop set (Wilson Combat) FCC Troy Trigger Guard FCC Troy Ambi-mag catch AK BAD ASS Selector set VELOCITY M135 Cylinder - 400fps w.20 VELOCITY M115 Cylinder - 374fps w.20 VELOCITY M90 Cylinder - 347fps w.20 First off the price I payed for the FCC is not much more than a BNIB 2012 Systema PTW with all bells and whistles in fact if I were to do the same it would have cost me an extra grand Positive points - Full moisture proof - quality build, construction/assembly, QC and packaging, top notch CNC work on every part that goes into the mechbox - high quality custom in house built parts - Factory tested and distributor tested for any performance issue before arriving to my hands - light weight compared to a Prime body PTW of the same length - faster, quieter and cooler operating temp performance from the 2.5motor compared to the 2012 Systema motor - Tri burst and full auto function - Mini ECU allowing you to use 15C LiPo without damaging the ECU - Full no hassle customer info assistance through website, facebook, forums and emails with distributor and tech support - crisp trigger response, better than a stock PTW - light weight CNC body not as heavy as Prime but very clean, crisp and amazing finish I would have bought more of their body if i have any Systema PTW left - upcoming new products such as their rumored ANGEL KING TW system (AK PTW for those AK fans) Bad points - Limited supply, due to the popularity of their products you may have to wait a few weeks or months for custom rifle - Small operation compared to Systema - Price, maybe a bit expensive for some UPDATE 1Longevity test 1 August 20th, 2012Loaded up ALL 24 Sytema mags and 18 FCC Vanaras based mags, PTW powered by Hot power 11.1V 1300mah 15C LiPo, King Arms 11.1V 1100mah 15C and airsoftparts 7.4V 1300mah 20C, M115, M135 Cylinder - consistent 388-387fps with bastard .25 with the red Systema cylinder I’m suspecting the minor loss in fps was due to the longer inner barrel - M115 cylinder with .20 = 365fps w.20bb bastard - M135 cylinder with .20 = 395fps-392fps w.20bb bastard - M95 cylinder with .20 = 339fps-335fps w.20bb bastard - very consistent bullseye at 50ft - Motor seemed to get smoother after 4 mags - after nonstop firing all 42 mags with the exception of reloading mags the motor is a bit warm but not as warm as a 2012 Systema (1mag semi then 1 mag at triburst and auto) - 11.1 LiPo needs to be changed after when I did a continous 27 mag triburst dump (alarm went off) it may last a lot longer if you do single shot - No misfeeds no misfire after alternate switching modes - need to file some very sharp edges from the NST rails - No visible wear on the mechbox, gears or piston, all gears allignment are still centered and no excess grease visible - Low voltage protection is a big plus for guys like me it allow me to run 7.4V LiPo without worries A normal PTW can't do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoTD...eature=g-all-u http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xzEm...eature=g-all-u FCC Advanced CPU for Systema PTW (3 burst) - YouTube Pictures to follow UPDATE 2 - September 20th, 2012 - Finished another set of testing plus a complete day of gaming (another combined 16bags of bastards .25), a few in sets in the rain with no issue or stopage, motor is running like butter - Tried the new 11.1 1100mah batteries from elite airsoft they fit the buffer tub better - a few more FCC parts installed for my NST rail - a short upper coming soon UPDATE 3 - September 22nd, 2012- received the 9"upper from DTT - great finish, the new MUR upper is even nicer than the original - gamed with it using the M90 cylinder, shoots 347fps with the Noveske firepig the sound is scary especially at full auto - due to the shorter inner barrel distance is not as much as the 14" barrel 50-60ft and the spread is a lot larger at the end not as tight as the longer barrel - finish and fitting are top notch no issue or misallignment NEXT UP - FCC HK416D full build Last edited by wildcard; October 9th, 2012 at 12:23..