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DoubleEdged · November 28th, 2011, 13:50

I've been reading around on upgrades and all the sites I see never pair high torque and high speed.

Seems like the General acceptance is:

If you want power, you only go full power.
If you want speed, you only go full speed.

However, what if you wanted to achieve both, or close to both (kind of like how you tune out a car to achieve the best balance of performance)?

I was thinking about the following setup:

You have an average spring that can be set for outdoor fields M120 at 380-410FPS.

Couple it with a VVD so you don't have to change the spring later (yeah it's expensive, but it means I don't have to open the gun again), and you can change the output to lower velocities for indoor use.

An infinite max torque gear set (Guarder's is 45:1 for example).
A high speed motor (Guarder's 40K RPM for example).

The idea for this setup is that I'm estimating that the High speed motor has less torque than a standard motor. Thus, using a high torque gearset is suppose to offset the torque loss from the motor loss.

Ideally, I'd want the torque increase on the system as a whole to increase proportionally with the load increase of the new spring. Which also in ideal circumstances, we could maintain its stock rate of fire with minimal stresses to the gearbox and shims.

My only problem with going ahead with such a setup is that I'm missing stall torque limits of the motors. If I knew that I could probably tweak accordingly.

November 28th, 2011, 13:50	#1
DoubleEdged Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond Hill	Moto-gearset Taboo setup I've been reading around on upgrades and all the sites I see never pair high torque and high speed. Seems like the General acceptance is: If you want power, you only go full power. If you want speed, you only go full speed. However, what if you wanted to achieve both, or close to both (kind of like how you tune out a car to achieve the best balance of performance)? I was thinking about the following setup: You have an average spring that can be set for outdoor fields M120 at 380-410FPS. Couple it with a VVD so you don't have to change the spring later (yeah it's expensive, but it means I don't have to open the gun again), and you can change the output to lower velocities for indoor use. An infinite max torque gear set (Guarder's is 45:1 for example). A high speed motor (Guarder's 40K RPM for example). The idea for this setup is that I'm estimating that the High speed motor has less torque than a standard motor. Thus, using a high torque gearset is suppose to offset the torque loss from the motor loss. Ideally, I'd want the torque increase on the system as a whole to increase proportionally with the load increase of the new spring. Which also in ideal circumstances, we could maintain its stock rate of fire with minimal stresses to the gearbox and shims. My only problem with going ahead with such a setup is that I'm missing stall torque limits of the motors. If I knew that I could probably tweak accordingly.