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Old July 20th, 2010, 21:53   #447
ILLusion
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Originally Posted by StrikeFreedom View Post
Yes I am pushing the short stroking limit. Currently, with the stock spring in (or no spring), the slide can blowback no problem and is enough to cock the hammer. Problem is within such short traveling distance the nozzle will not spring back into the piston, failing to chamber the next round. Will replacing the spring with a stronger/longer one work then?
Well, you're pushing the line, because the sooner you release the nozzle, the sooner you'll stop the gas flowing in to the nozzle. And the less gas that goes in to the nozzle, the less power there will be to blow the slide back. If the slide doesn't blow back far enough, then it won't be able to chamber the next round, even if the nozzle is cocked all the way back.

A longer spring, or one with tighter coils will prevent the nozzle from going back, but again, make sure that however much you short stroke it, make sure the blowback unit has enough room (and time!!) to roll back and disconnect the sear & valve knocker levers

I'm not saying what you're doing is impossible. You're just challenging the original engineering specifications, and you're on your own territory there. Keep trying things out, and you may discover something that we can't answer for you.

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Originally Posted by juicy View Post
Wait, no spring works? Interesting!
Yes, the no spring thing works, only because it doesn't impede any mechanical function of the nozzle as far as cycling goes.

As far as short stroking goes, having a spring in there or not doesn't affect the function at all.

The *ONLY* purpose that exists for pulling the nozzle back, is simply to pull the nozzle back when the slide is racked back so that you don't have a big, unsightly, an d unrealistic nozzle sitting in the ejection port when the slide is racked back. Beyond that, it serves no real purpose.

Most users who've bent or damaged that spring due to careless reassembly and decide to try using the pistol without the spring can attest to the full functionality of it. But again, not having the spring there won't impede NOR improve any performance characteristic whatsoever.
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