RCMP and airsoft
 

Hopefully this isn't nuked like most of the other threads on this topic....

We all know that the CBSA states airsoft is a replica and prohibited... well now do the RCMP. This was sent to me by an RCMP officer and is straight off the RCMP website.

Maybe it's time to actually get a group together and PROVE that airsoft can cause bodily harm. Pictures of chipped teeth, bleeding BB wounds, BB's in the skin, etc to pull it out of the replica airgun category and stick it in with the likes of "realistic" looking pellet guns.

We know CANsoft isn't classified as a replica (thus why the thing above says SOME airsoft guns) but all full black guns are. So we either all start playing with cansoft or do something about changing the categories.

Simply put, realistic looking pellet guns aren't classified as replicas so all the airsoft community needs to do is prove that airsoft can cause just as much bodily harm as a realistic looking pellet gun.

So now according to the RCMP, the buying and selling of full black airsoft guns is now a prohibited act.

The above quote is what most realistic looking pellet guns fall into now, the same guns you can buy from Canadian tire, Walmart, etc.

You're throwing around old facts like they're news. All this has been the case for the last several years.

That's pretty much the same text that's been on the CFC factsheets for years now.

The RCMP aren't exactly coming after us: it's CBSA that's preventing importation, and they get to interpret the rules their own way. You can contest the CBSA seizure, have it sent for testing by the RCMP, and it may be found to meet the criteria to be a non-firearm AND non-replica, but there's no guarantee, you foot the bill, and you may not see your gun for a year or more.

dude, read court cases on appeals for airsoft guns, they mentioned the velocity needed to consider an airsoft gun as firearms without registation. The Velocity is 407fps w/ .22g (I can confirm it as it was on text from one of the court cases) or 430fps w/ .2g. Theorically you can import those without having it seized and destroyed in the end.
Honestly though, I really want to see an organization formed that is par with UKARA. Licensing will help and can deter alot of criminals as well as irresponsible people from getting it. Licensing could also help ensure the license owner will know the laws and rules associated with it.

What's the date on these documents you found exactly? lol

I'm not scared for my baby black guns, and nobody should be.

Actually that was the CFC which even though was run by the RCMP was sort of it's own separate thing. The CFC had their own website, the RCMP had theirs.

Since the start of this year though it was changed to the CFP and now the CFP website IS the RCMP website. The officer email this to me because even though it was on the CFC website, they really never cared, but now that the RCMP is taking a more bigger role with the CFP, the RCMP are receiving memos about things like this as a "reminder" of certain laws.

wait, so I dont have to go on a gun splurge like a texan republican when he heard obama's views on gun control?

business as usuall?

if they change it they gotta atleast have it so your have to have your PAL to buy a blacked out one like the laws in Scotland, and the import laws can stay the came for the public's safety from airsoft gun weilding retards, this way we can meet in the middle, having a PAL obviously means your 18+ and helps with the age verification process on this site. I'd be okay with that.

To become a firearm an airgun must meet 500fps AND 5.7 joules, which means with a .2 gram BB, the gun must shoot at 790fps.

..Why? Did you email him asking for it? Or did he just pick you out of the blue to give this information to?

He's a family friend stationed in Williams Lake.

He used to come over and play with my airsoft all the time and emailed me because everyone at their station just received a memo about airsoft from the CFP.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/f...me_air-eng.htm

Revised 2008. We're doomed!

Wait wait... This is 2009 nearly 2010.

Ahah, okay who's got another scary story to tell us? C'mon before the camp fire goes out.


(http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=51609 There's some useful old information.)

So basically, you're surprised and alarmed because a RCMP officer is surprised and alarmed because, being stationed in the middle of Nowhere, BC, he is receiving old information for the first time.

People need to stop being so alarmist.

According to their website, that document was last touched in 2008, April. I'm sure if they cared, they would have done something, or told people, or posted something to let people know "Hey, we're comin' for ya!"
As usual, the likely hood of something happening, is slim to nothing.

Edit: Kaos, you so, so, so - stole my information. D:

NEIN! (NO)
That's firearms which required to be registered. If I recall correct definition of a firearm is basically a device that can be fired by one person and is capable of sending a lethal projectile in a direction. The required me to be classified as lethal it must have the 407fps rule. any firearms between 407 fps and 500fps w/ 5.7J are considered as free firearms. meaning you dont have to register

No matter how old this information is, this "reminder" just proves that maybe the "CBSA is the only one to really care" situation is coming to an end.

Be it or not, I still agree on Drache's fact that something should be done.