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Kingly April 24th, 2009 19:39

Kraken AK-47
 
I recently bought a Kraken AK-47 from buyairsoft.ca
(which was my first mistake).

Everything was fine for the first while but now everytime I pull the trigger a "scraping" sound comes from the lower reciever.

I sent a message to buyairsoft.ca, i don't know what I want them to do, because there return policy isn't exactly customer friendly.

Anyways; i guess what im asking is: is there anything I could do to fix my airsoft gun, or would I have to buy new gears (or something to that effect)?


Much Appreciated,

Kingly

pusangani April 24th, 2009 19:45

depending on if you are close to a gun doc, I would suggest finding out if you are and having them look at it for you.

If you aren't, then it might make more sense to buy yourself a whole new gearbox from ebaybanned or ehobbyasia, because when you factor in shipping to and from a gun doc and his fees and cost of replacement parts as well, it might cost you more to fix it than to get yourself a new gearbox, which is like $70 shipped.

Crunchmeister April 24th, 2009 19:47

Sounds like you've either stripped your gears or your piston. Don't think you'll get much support from the seller. Unless you can find yourself a gun doc, you're going to have to go at this one yourself.

Check out www.mechbox.com. You'll find a video guide for taking apart a TM AK, which is identical to your Kraken, and how to get into the mechbox.

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Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 970804)
because when you factor in shipping to and from a gun doc and his fees and cost of replacement parts as well, it might cost you more to fix it than to get yourself a new gearbox, which is like $70 shipped.

I'd say shipping + parts + work, you'd be able to buy a new Kraken, not just a new gearbox.

Kingly April 24th, 2009 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 970804)
depending on if you are close to a gun doc, I would suggest finding out if you are and having them look at it for you.

If you aren't, then it might make more sense to buy yourself a whole new gearbox from ebaybanned or ehobbyasia, because when you factor in shipping to and from a gun doc and his fees and cost of replacement parts as well, it might cost you more to fix it than to get yourself a new gearbox, which is like $70 shipped.

So, is that the problem: i need a new gear box?? I only fired a few hundred rounds!

Crunchmeister April 24th, 2009 19:49

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Originally Posted by Kingly (Post 970807)
So, is that the problem: i need a new gear box?? I only fired a few hundred rounds!

Aftermath guns are very hit-or-miss. Some people use them for 10s of thousands of rounds without issues, some people don't even get 50 rounds off before they die. WIth a bit of preventative maintenance off the bat, a Kraken is ok in terms of reliability. But out of the box, it's the luck of the draw.

pusangani April 24th, 2009 19:50

no u dont need a new gearbox, you likely stripped something in your gearbox and that part needs replacing, which is why i said you need a gun doctor to look at it, but if one isn't nearby then you might be better off just buying a new gearbox due to the costs

Crunchmeister April 24th, 2009 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 970811)
no u dont need a new gearbox, you likely stripped something in your gearbox and that part needs replacing, which is why i said you need a gun doctor to look at it, but if one isn't nearby then you might be better off just buying a new gearbox due to the costs

+1. If you're not comfortable opening up your mechbox, this is your cheapest solution.

Kingly April 25th, 2009 13:58

Lets say I was comfortable opening the mechbox; after i did open it, i would just need to find the gear thats stripped and replace it, right?

TY

Crunchmeister April 25th, 2009 14:05

When you find the broken part, it needs to be replaced. You usually have to buy gears in sets though. You don't get single gears unless getting them used in the classifieds.

But it may not be the gears at all. It could be the piston too. That would be my first guess. Although the gears are a distinct possibility too.

Kingly April 25th, 2009 14:09

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Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 971263)
When you find the broken part, it needs to be replaced. You usually have to buy gears in sets though. You don't get single gears unless getting them used in the classifieds.

But it may not be the gears at all. It could be the piston too. That would be my first guess. Although the gears are a distinct possibility too.


Thanks a lot.

Im going to go onto airsoftparts to try and find either gears or a piston. Whichever one is broken.

Crunchmeister April 25th, 2009 14:11

It'll be one of the other. Pistons are fairly cheap. About $20-40 depending on what you get. Gears can be more expensive.

kalnaren April 25th, 2009 14:12

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Originally Posted by Kingly (Post 970807)
So, is that the problem: i need a new gear box?? I only fired a few hundred rounds!

Welcome to low quality airsoft guns.

There's a reason we suggest newbies spend the $350-$500 on something decent.

If your gears are stripped, I'd say to hell with it and just buy a new gun unless you can get the one gear you need. A new gearset will cost you around $100 anyway... might as well spend the extra $20 and have a whole set of spare parts.

If it's the piston it's a reletively cheap repair (~$20). However, if you are opening the mechbox I'd suggest you invest in a shim set and a gearbox grease set and do some preventative maintenance.

Crunchmeister April 25th, 2009 14:18

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 971270)
Welcome to low quality airsoft guns.

There's a reason we suggest newbies spend the $350-$500 on something decent.

If your gears are stripped, I'd say to hell with it and just buy a new gun unless you can get the one gear you need. A new gearset will cost you around $100 anyway... might as well spend the extra $20 and have a whole set of spare parts.

If it's the piston it's a reletively cheap repair (~$20). However, if you are opening the mechbox I'd suggest you invest in a shim set and a gearbox grease set and do some preventative maintenance.

Totally agree to all of this. This is why I constantly recommend the Kraken to people who are tinkerers and want an upgrade platform, but not as a first airsoft gun for a noob. Too many of them break down for them to be considered reliable.

Also, consider getting some metal 6mm bushings along with the shims. Replace to crappy nylon ones that come in the gun.

Kingly April 25th, 2009 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 971274)
Totally agree to all of this. This is why I constantly recommend the Kraken to people who are tinkerers and want an upgrade platform, but not as a first airsoft gun for a noob. Too many of them break down for them to be considered reliable.

Also, consider getting some metal 6mm bushings along with the shims. Replace to crappy nylon ones that come in the gun.

If and when I open the gear box and (if I) see that all the gears are fine, can I assume that its the piston thats causing the problem? (I hope its just the piston)

kalnaren April 25th, 2009 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingly (Post 971306)
If and when I open the gear box and (if I) see that all the gears are fine, can I assume that its the piston thats causing the problem? (I hope its just the piston)

It will be pretty obvious if the piston is damaged.

mechboxes aren't really complex, but they're precise. If something doesn't look right, chances are it isn't.


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