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Dragate February 24th, 2009 00:52

GBB M4's: WA | Inokatsu | WE
 
So recently I've taken a shine to the gbb's.

haha?

Electric motor sounds ... just don't cut it XD
Some nice blowback with a tad of recoil looks and probabaly feels pretty good.

So I have a few questions.

I know WA was the starter of this "bonfire trend" (don't look big enough to me), but the really high rep Inokatsu, and new WE GBB's look to have promise too.

Recently a review for the WE GBB has been posted in the reviews sections and seems to have REALLY poor quality on externals.
I was told by the new Inokatsu owner with the miad full set (we know who that is) that it is THE best brand.
OWNS WA and G&P!
----- does G&P make GBB's? Which brands do?

I'm really concerned about this HFC matter. As we know the duster gas cools mags... not a good thing to have. Which of these brands can handle the new technology of AI and cheap propane from canadian tire?

I watched a few comparisons on realism of the 3 brands listed in the thread title to find Inokatsu the most realistic in terms of measurements and placements of parts. True? Vraiment? Or a total lie?

How about durability?
And... Let's say I want to upgrade the inner barrel. I want a tanio koba, I know you can install those on AEG's and makes sense to be able to on a GBB, but is it? How about RAS/RIS'? What if I was to get the O SOOOO sexy DD mk18 7" RAS from ebaybanned? Can I install it with ease? Stocks?

How about that RA tech adjustable fps GBB bolt carrier thing. Looks cool O_O
Worth it? I know Inokatsus and WE shoot around 500 stock, except WE is pretty deviant and jumps from around mid 300's to well over 500, where the Inokatsu is more of like a slowly declining line until you warm up the mag haha.

No I have not had any previous experience with GBB's, not even pistols, but I've read some of the maintenance FAQ's and they said to oil the mags? Keep a bit of gas? Same goes for the AR GBBs right?

KEVORKIAN February 24th, 2009 01:03

Here's a good start...and there's more than enough info to make your head spin!

http://gasguns.info/forum/

Dragate February 24th, 2009 01:23

whoa nice =]

kk thnx!

Rookie Ab February 24th, 2009 08:09

Hey Kev,You forgot to mention the second mortgage that he's going to need :D

Nabisco_Lobstrosity February 24th, 2009 10:58

To help narrow down your Gas Guns info searching, there was a thread spefically about compatible parts of WA / Ino M4's. I found it useful when I was starting to put my own gun together -

http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55

Donster February 24th, 2009 11:02

dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

Dynamo February 24th, 2009 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125 (Post 926324)
dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

reguardless of BB weight, if it's shooting that high, he will have a hard time being allowed to play anywhere.

the best thing to do is read up on gasgun.info.
personally im going to pick up a Prime body with the Prime reciver parts kit, G&P barrel, PGC hop-up, RA-Tech N.P.A.S complete bolt and a bunch of RS parts.

im still waiting for RA-Tech to release thier CO2 mags.

dragwindsor February 24th, 2009 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo (Post 926350)
reguardless of BB weight, if it's shooting that high, he will have a hard time being allowed to play anywhere.

the best thing to do is read up on gasgun.info.
personally im going to pick up a Prime body with the Prime reciver parts kit, G&P barrel, PGC hop-up, RA-Tech N.P.A.S complete bolt and a bunch of RS parts.

im still waiting for RA-Tech to release thier CO2 mags.

Get the RA-Tech Hopup and Barrel. I did.

1" groupings at 30 ft. with my Ino.

Dragate February 24th, 2009 12:57

Thank you~~
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125 (Post 926324)
dont be suckered in by equating high FPS with quality. If your gun is shooting that high, your going to have to use .30g as the bare minimum

That's not what I meant haha. What I meant is the consistency of the gun due to mag cooling, and declining gas. If it's at 500 fps, even with .3 I'm not gonna be able to play in any games...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kody_1 (Post 926213)
Hey Kev,You forgot to mention the second mortgage that he's going to need :D

Already applied for ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabisco_Lobstrosity (Post 926320)
To help narrow down your Gas Guns info searching, there was a thread spefically about compatible parts of WA / Ino M4's. I found it useful when I was starting to put my own gun together -

http://gasguns.info/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=55

Will do some reading on that :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamo (Post 926350)
reguardless of BB weight, if it's shooting that high, he will have a hard time being allowed to play anywhere.

the best thing to do is read up on gasgun.info.
personally im going to pick up a Prime body with the Prime reciver parts kit, G&P barrel, PGC hop-up, RA-Tech N.P.A.S complete bolt and a bunch of RS parts.

im still waiting for RA-Tech to release thier CO2 mags.

G&P Barrel?
Can't you use like a tanio koba/prometheus?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragwindsor (Post 926354)
Get the RA-Tech Hopup and Barrel. I did.

1" groupings at 30 ft. with my Ino.

Hm... Since I'm probabaly gonna get the variable oblt from RA, is it possible to just build a whole new GBB out of parts? Like for example I know the Inokatsu bodies have engravings, and I'm not really a fan of it, but I really like my G&P metal body with the USMC laser cnc trades.
Can I just buy parts to build the GBB out of that?

Amos February 24th, 2009 13:47

Everything for the GBB M4's is completely different from the AEG M4's (Internally anyways)

The guns fire too hot to be used in most places in canada right now... but I'm sure some one will come up with a really good FPS reduction system soon (if there isn't one already)

dragwindsor February 24th, 2009 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 926451)
Everything for the GBB M4's is completely different from the AEG M4's (Internally anyways)

The guns fire too hot to be used in most places in canada right now... but I'm sure some one will come up with a really good FPS reduction system soon (if there isn't one already)

There is, the RA Tech NPAS. It's adjustable, from like 230 to 500.

Dragate February 24th, 2009 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragwindsor (Post 926454)
There is, the RA Tech NPAS. It's adjustable, from like 230 to 500.

but for the ra tech NPAS, it doesn't fit in the inokatsu bolt carrier eh, so I have to spend money on that too...

and for the brands of gbb's we is worst right?

then wa and then inokatsu?

dragwindsor February 24th, 2009 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragate (Post 926465)
but for the ra tech NPAS, it doesn't fit in the inokatsu bolt carrier eh, so I have to spend money on that too...

and for the brands of gbb's we is worst right?

then wa and then inokatsu?

It DOES drop into the stock Ino loading nozzle.

I personally don't like the WE. It feels weird. I like the WA system [WA,G&P,Ino]

Watch for my video on how to smash a WA coming soon.

hongkong100 February 24th, 2009 14:38

there won't be a video on how too smash one yet if i can come up with the money first

airborneboi69 February 24th, 2009 14:39

anyone have access to metal bodies for the WA i really need one bad lol


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