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Rich_A January 18th, 2006 15:52

Learning to use different guns properly?
 
Does anyone have any offsite resource or something they could link to that might give me a better understanding of the role and use of different sizes/types of guns in a combat scenario? I'm looking to broaden my horizons as well as become a little more adept on the field in terms of how I move, where I move, where I engage etc... :tup:

please don't kill me

gandar January 18th, 2006 15:55

The end with the hole in it goes towards the bad guy.

Rich_A January 18th, 2006 16:04

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Originally Posted by gandar
The end with the hole in it goes towards the bad guy.

I was hoping to go beyond the obvious. I am actually interested in becoming as effective as possible. I played paintball for 4 years, I know how to point and click but there's more to the game now. But I am preaching to the choir so..

Kid January 18th, 2006 16:25

You could join the reserves...

Rich_A January 18th, 2006 16:37

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Originally Posted by Kid
You could join the reserves...

KP Duty won't help me :lol:

Groombug January 18th, 2006 16:46

Theory only does so much. You can read a gazillion field manuals, but that won't make you any more experienced if you don't actually TOUCH the weapons.

If you're of age and verified, buy a gun that you like. Think of it like girls... are you an AK man? Armalite man? Brunette? Blonde?

Play around with that. Learn its idiosyncracies. If you don't like it, sell it and trade for something else. Or you might like it and decide to keep it. Buy something else to expand your collection and repertoire.

Go to a game. That is the best way to learn what is good and not good for you and your gun. You also get exposed to other models. Ask nicely to touch them. That will give you an idea of the differences in handling.

In terms of performance, that is the gearbox's job. There should be more than enough guides here for you to read about upgrading internals. Don't upgrade until you have at least played in stock form.

BloodSport January 18th, 2006 16:59

Just to follow up with Groombug's comments about upgrading, here in Saskatchewan the groups that play (Regina, Saskatoon, and Moose Jaw) have a simple rule for new players and upgrades: Minimum 1 year of playing stock, and earning the right and trust to use an upgraded gun in our games. This helps protect others from you not knowing the strength and damage an upgraded gun can cause up close and on certain parts of the body.

Greylocks January 18th, 2006 18:30

Actually, this is a complicated question. How DO you learn to handle a variety of guns?

Let's cover a wide range here; handguns, rifles, shotguns, carbines, SMGs... There are not many options for anyone to really learn about all of these.

1) Join the Armed Forces.
2) Join the Police forces.
3) Join a gun club where at least some members who have licenses that are rare hang out.

4) Ask to try anything you see.

When one of those options is picked; practice a LOT. Reading only means so much. You'd scream or die laughing if I showed you all the folks I've ever seen come to a real range with tons of "book-knowledge". They universally sucked.

At the other extreme, one of my best students was a young woman who had never touched a gun in her life. She started with no useless luggage and ideas, and was shooting at 80%-plus within a month. That's above the requirements for police officers by the way.

Rich_A January 18th, 2006 18:33

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Originally Posted by wiseowl
Just to follow up with Groombug's comments about upgrading, here in Saskatchewan the groups that play (Regina, Saskatoon, and Moose Jaw) have a simple rule for new players and upgrades: Minimum 1 year of playing stock, and earning the right and trust to use an upgraded gun in our games. This helps protect others from you not knowing the strength and damage an upgraded gun can cause up close and on certain parts of the body.

good thing I bought an M14 then :nod: . I think it's a good idea to play stock, I know even a paintball gun shooting 300fps can be dangerous to a degree.. at 400fps extremely dangerous. So a hard projectile at those speeds I imagine is more able to puncture skin.

Kokanee January 18th, 2006 19:31

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Originally Posted by Rich_A
good thing I bought an M14 then . I think it's a good idea to play stock, I know even a paintball gun shooting 300fps can be dangerous to a degree.. at 400fps extremely dangerous. So a hard projectile at those speeds I imagine is more able to puncture skin.

Remember that there is alot less energy involved when it comes to airsoft, as the projectiles used are typically of the .2 - .3 gram variety. But yes, there is a reason most fields limit to 400fps for assault weapons and 450 for bolt action.

Did you buy a Mauri m14? They're great out of the box, and a pleasure to shoot. Extremely accurate and excellent range.

Canadian Psycho January 18th, 2006 19:33

long guns are good for long ranges, and have better accuracy over long distances, short SMGs and such, are good for indoor, but aren't very good at outdoor. most of it is simple, longer barrel=more accuracy, but it will be big and clumsey(sp?)

Rich_A January 18th, 2006 19:36

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Originally Posted by Kokanee
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Originally Posted by Rich_A
good thing I bought an M14 then . I think it's a good idea to play stock, I know even a paintball gun shooting 300fps can be dangerous to a degree.. at 400fps extremely dangerous. So a hard projectile at those speeds I imagine is more able to puncture skin.

Remember that there is alot less energy involved when it comes to airsoft, as the projectiles used are typically of the .2 - .3 gram variety. But yes, there is a reason most fields limit to 400fps for assault weapons and 450 for bolt action.

Did you buy a Mauri m14? They're great out of the box, and a pleasure to shoot. Extremely accurate and excellent range.

Yeah I just ordered a Marui M14 in OD Metal from Kelowna today. I'm very excited.


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