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brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 21:13

mosfet problems
 
Ok so here is the situation

I have a Echo 1 AK700. The stock motor is a POS so I wanted to upgrade it. I purchased a systema turbo high speed motor. Upon installation I noticed my DIY mosfet getting really really hot. So hot that it promptly burnt it out. So I built a new one and tried it and noticed it would still get hot on semi but was ok on full auto. I checked my shimming, replaced gears with a fresh SHS 18:1, lubed etc. It still had the problem. So now I'm thinking that maybe the motor is bad or the spring is too heavy so I picked up a lonex A1.Popped it in and It is still having the problem. My last step has been to change out to 13:1 gears just to see what happens. I would have expected this to make it worse but no real change (maybe even slightly better).

The gun runs very smooth besides the overheating. It is also worth noting that the motor stays cool and so does that battery and wires. Im honestly at a loss here. The only other thing I can think of is that I got a bad batch of mosfet materials but I haven't had problems in my other guns so I don't think so.

Any ideas?

any good gun docs in the guelph area?

pestobanana March 23rd, 2015 21:26

What FET are you using, and how are you wiring it in?

EOD Steve March 23rd, 2015 21:36

Show us your schematic.

brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 21:45

this design

http://unconventional-airsoft.com/wp...ple-mosfet.jpg

pestobanana March 23rd, 2015 21:51

That's the basic FET layout, how are you wiring it in to the gun?

brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 22:16

not sure what you mean by wire it into the gun? It was done just like the diagram. Its a version 3 gearbox so all wiring is external. I use 16AWG for the motor wires and 18 for the trigger leads.

Kos-Mos March 23rd, 2015 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian-i-bunker-u (Post 1940017)
not sure what you mean by wire it into the gun? It was done just like the diagram. Its a version 3 gearbox so all wiring is external. I use 16AWG for the motor wires and 18 for the trigger leads.

There should be 1 trigger lead, and you can use as small as 22ga wire for it. The other is a Y going battery +/motor +/trigger.

And there should be a resistor in-line with that 1 trigger lead, otherwise your MOSFET gets in triode mode and that sucks.

brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 22:21

My mosfet design is sound. I have used it in all my other guns and they work 100%.

pestobanana March 23rd, 2015 22:34

If your MOSFET design and wiring were sound, you wouldn't be experiencing this issue. Can you show us a picture of the wiring?

brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 22:43

do you want a close up of the chip or just the wiring as a whole (need to know if I need to cut off my cover)

pestobanana March 23rd, 2015 22:55

More interested in how you wired your gun as a whole, I'm going to assume the FET itself was assembled correctly.

brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 23:10

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/z...psoxvnouze.jpg

http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/z...psmphnxu2p.jpg

pestobanana March 23rd, 2015 23:32

Well I guess the heat shrink is covering up the part I wanted to see.

So the FET is on the negative wire, which goes battery --> FET --> motor, then your positive wire goes straight from your battery to your motor. Your signal wires go from the FET --> trigger contacts --> battery positive?

lurkingknight March 23rd, 2015 23:35

sound clip of the gun operating? Don't record in a tin can room either lol... if all you have is a shitty mic try and dampen the sound a bit by pulling a tshirt over the mic.

brian-i-bunker-u March 23rd, 2015 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestobanana (Post 1940029)
Well I guess the heat shrink is covering up the part I wanted to see.

So the FET is on the negative wire, which goes battery --> FET --> motor, then your positive wire goes straight from your battery to your motor. Your signal wires go from the FET --> trigger contacts --> battery positive?

thats correct


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