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Rossco66 March 23rd, 2014 18:43

Accurate AEG @ 150+ ft with heavier BB's under $500
 
I have looked through the forums and I wasn't able to find a specific or recent answer to the dilemma of "What is the most accurate AEG under $500 out of the box?".

I've contemplated GBB but the cool down effect and the need for warmer temperatures have scared me off a bit. The ease of use of an AEG potentially outweighs the realism and maintenance of a GBB in my mind.

I'm looking for a rifle for use in more of an infantry-like support role while playing outdoors. Field limit is 425 FPS with .20 for non sniper rifles. Realizing that heavier BB's are more accurate I run .28 in my current M4.

My goal is to find something that doesn't need a boat load of $ in upgrades to deliver accurate results over distance in excess of 150 feet. I have read that the SG550 from G&G is already very accurate and I was trying to find out from a group of experienced players what other contenders under $500 are out there.

Reliability and consistency are obviously key components of the decision process. Size and weight of the weapon aren't really important to me but I would prefer to stay away from actual sniper rifles.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Strelok March 23rd, 2014 18:58

From personal experience, I'd be another vote to the SG550 from G&G, the thing is a naildriver.

L473ncy March 23rd, 2014 19:21

I've heard that with a V7 gearbox's hop up those things are supposed to be awesome. I'd probably grab a CYMA or G&G M14.

Rusty Lugnuts March 23rd, 2014 19:43

echo1 m14 (pretty sure its a rebranded cyma with a better hop up)

lurkingknight March 23rd, 2014 20:34

any gun with a reputable hop up chamber casting... compression/reliability upgrades and a pdi w hold will get those results easily.

if your local fields allow for greater than 1.48J then you should be using heavier than .28s.

I use .32s at 1.4J to devastating effect, but I also have full blown r-hop setups with very little fps variance (air leaks)

150ft is only 45m. You should be able to hit a man sized target consistently with any AEG out of the box using .28s.

In comparison I'm hitting 10" pie plates at that range.

The biggest problem with accuracy out of the box in any gun is air seal consistency. You can't expect the BB to hop the same from one shot to the next when the first shot leaves at 390 fps and the next one at 360.

Styrak March 23rd, 2014 20:52

2nd additional vote for G&G SG550! Hell even my SG552 is really accurate and gets tons of range with 320fps.

Rossco66 March 23rd, 2014 22:15

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Originally Posted by lurkingknight (Post 1878074)
any gun with a reputable hop up chamber casting... compression/reliability upgrades and a pdi w hold will get those results easily.

if your local fields allow for greater than 1.48J then you should be using heavier than .28s.

I use .32s at 1.4J to devastating effect, but I also have full blown r-hop setups with very little fps variance (air leaks)

150ft is only 45m. You should be able to hit a man sized target consistently with any AEG out of the box using .28s.

In comparison I'm hitting 10" pie plates at that range.

The biggest problem with accuracy out of the box in any gun is air seal consistency. You can't expect the BB to hop the same from one shot to the next when the first shot leaves at 390 fps and the next one at 360.

I have modded my current rifle with a tightbore 6.03 and a ProWin Hopup using a PDI w/ hold and it did increase range and accuracy. I'm looking for something out of the box that doesn't need a bunch of monkeying around to get it to reach its potential.

I don't suspect that many guns would have an issue hitting a person at 150 ft. Unfortunately I can't get the guys I'm playing against to walk erect in the open. :lol: They insist on only showing my the top of a head or a shoulder. Since that is the case, a target half the size of the pie plate would be preferable. I'm still experimenting with different weights in BB's and haven't tried anything heavier than .28 yet.

Ricochet March 24th, 2014 03:00

Out of the box, man sized target, 150 feet, ...maybe, but not likely consistently, not in that price range, not without modding/upgrading, etc. 150 feet and a small target, like a head sized, probably a marui VSR, Marui M14, Systema PTW, Marui MK23, etc, but only one is realistically in your price range. There's a few others, but time, money, effort, equals efficiency, not a lack of those things.

lurkingknight March 24th, 2014 14:03

an out of the box AEG under 500$ hitting something the size of a head at 45m consistently without modification is unlikely.

Probably go after the ones with proven good airseal.. but out of the box if I were buying it, I'd still gut it.

pestobanana March 24th, 2014 14:08

Accuracy is less about how much money you throw at it and more about fine tuning. With about $150 in parts you can make almost any AEG shoot very accurately.

ThunderCactus March 24th, 2014 15:46

Difficult enough for some stock PTWs to hit a dude at 150ft accurately lol

Azathoth March 24th, 2014 15:57

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1878248)
Difficult enough for some stock PTWs to hit a dude at 150ft accurately lol

well... depends but not really. most stock out of the box factory ptw will hit the 150-180ft range. but to get the 250ft man sized MOA shots you need the mod done.

any stock AEG that is taken to a competent gun tech for lubrication, and tuning will do the job of 150 ft man sized accuracy or better. Add 30 dollars for a SCS and a hopup rubber you can push that out to the 200's.

kullwarrior March 24th, 2014 16:21

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1878248)
Difficult enough for some stock PTWs to hit a dude at 150ft accurately lol

A new Systema assembled PTW since 2007 will be able to do that easily (It won't be able to take heavy weights though...The original hopup could barely lift 0.25g)
If you are refering to FCC's Fail-TW...Read Mcgvyver's post on it, I'm not impress with the pictures as evidence.

Generally speaking you can get a $350 gun to shoot extremely accurately if it was properly tuned. I know someone in Edmonton that modify a WE Katana that can easily make 250ft on a 12" (Total cost was not over $500 and considering MOSFET was the most expensive item) Granted he was a guntech himself.

Ricochet March 24th, 2014 16:32

We had "3" stock/out-of-the-box Systema Final Evolutions, hitting soccer ball sized targets at over 200, and BBs travelling over 270. All measured targets and using 0.28g and 0.30g BBs. Older models wouldn't do this without modification, but 150 foot would be doable.

phloudernow March 24th, 2014 17:09

KA M4 + Rhoped Prommy barrel set = under 500


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