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CR0M November 7th, 2012 14:06

POLL: MG36 as acceptable lmg yay or nay?
 
Theres been talk about not liking the idea of a g36 with a drum mag as an acceptable lmg for games. I see both sides argument, but thought we might as well have a poll for.

I only see the pro side as long its the right length, no g36c and a drum mag nonsense.

Id love to hear everyones thoughts on this.

AngelusNex November 7th, 2012 14:09

So long as it's Long (if possible heavy) barrel with the correct integrated bipod and still has a stock installed then yes it counts.

If it doesn't count then neither should the RPK, or if it's a case of standard issue then the stoner lmg shouldn't count.

Darklen November 7th, 2012 14:09

Seeing as an MG4 would be exceedingly difficult to make (German version of M249), the MG36 is really the only option for a German SAW even if the BW don't use it. I run one and it's big, heavy and awkward.

lurkingknight November 7th, 2012 14:12

I would consider full E length and drum mag acceptable.. if you want to deal with the extra length, just like a stoner, I don't see an issue.

Getting a heavier outer barrel can sometimes be an issue, the E length kits just have a standard light barrel, and some of them don't have that shitty integrated bipod.

If 249ers can take their bipod off cause it's a cheap pos, a mg36er should have the same option. The mount for the bipod is very flimsy on that full length handguard.

COL.TIKER November 7th, 2012 14:15

Like I said in the other thread, I don't think this classification problem is limited to only the MG36. If you have AK, throw on 2 two inch barrel extensions, bipod, and a long AK mag or drum mag, is it a LMG (RPK)? What about if you have a Type 95 and you add barrel extensions, bipod and drum mag to that?

CR0M November 7th, 2012 14:17

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Originally Posted by lurkingknight (Post 1723074)
If 249ers can take their bipod off cause it's a cheap pos, a mg36er should have the same option. The mount for the bipod is very flimsy on that full length handguard.

my only thing here is m249's are heavier than a g36, taking a bipod off a m249 is still heavier than a mg36 with a bipod... Its more like a concession to make up for the dual functionality.

Basic-Wedge November 7th, 2012 14:24

Nope. You can't change out a hot barrel, so it's not a LMG.

lurkingknight November 7th, 2012 14:26

true enough, but it seems to me modern fighting forces are leaning towards a rifle based support weapon over a specific heavy duty gun like a m249 or m60, how does that argument hold up against the other mentioned 'questionable' support weapon conversions in current usage?

Take the m27 iar for example, basically a 416 with a heavier barrel that weighs just a bit more than a standard m4 or 416, with the capability to use a 100 round drum mag that equals a belt of 100 on an m249 that probably weighs twice as much.

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Originally Posted by Basic-Wedge (Post 1723078)
Nope. You can't change out a hot barrel, so it's not a LMG.


so you're arguing that an issue of maintenance/engineering defines the role of a weapon more than it's overall ability to perform in it's designated role?

Disco_Dante November 7th, 2012 14:31

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Originally Posted by COL.TIKER (Post 1723075)
Like I said in the other thread, I don't think this classification problem is limited to only the MG36. If you have AK, throw on 2 two inch barrel extensions, bipod, and a long AK mag or drum mag, is it a LMG (RPK)? What about if you have a Type 95 and you add barrel extensions, bipod and drum mag to that?

The RPK has a noticeably different, thicker receiver. It is very hard to make a good looking air soft RPK without buying an LCT or CYMA. Takes more than a barrel and a drum mag!

COL.TIKER November 7th, 2012 14:39

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Originally Posted by Disco_Dante (Post 1723081)
The RPK has a noticeably different, thicker receiver. It is very hard to make a good looking air soft RPK without buying an LCT or CYMA. Takes more than a barrel and a drum mag!

I think that would be hard to notice. But I mean with longer barrel and bipod added to an AK, you are getting the same weight and difficulty of manoeuvring as a RPK.

Oh, and the AUG LMG too..

Long_Bong November 7th, 2012 14:41

I love mg36,

Light and you get 2 aeg for one, mg36 and g36. Is it legit? Yes. It is a rare sight in real life, yes, but so are ares lmg (knight armament), m4 shrike and so forth...

Legit in my game,
But it has to be full size, no C or K bullsh....t

http://i1251.photobucket.com/albums/...9216925jpg.jpg

Kingsix November 7th, 2012 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basic-Wedge (Post 1723078)
Nope. You can't change out a hot barrel, so it's not a LMG.

I guess a RPD isn't a LMG either.

COL.TIKER November 7th, 2012 14:56

There are quite a few LMGs that can't change barrels...

Disco_Dante November 7th, 2012 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingsix (Post 1723091)
I guess a RPD isn't a LMG either.

Aek999 is another Russian belt fed machine gun that would be excluded if a quick swap barrel is a required feature.

Debrief November 7th, 2012 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by COL.TIKER (Post 1723096)
There are quite a few LMGs that can't change barrels...

Yep, a changeable barrel is a moot point for defining a LMG, especially for airsoft.

So long as an MG36 is primarily used in a suppressive role with a C-MAG I don't see any reason it can't be used. Arguing that the sole reason it's not an LMG is because the German Army didn't adopt it is a very weak argument against it.


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