Zeta Labs AS VAL and VSS VINTOREZ up for pre-order at WGCShop (AEG)
 

No pictures up yet. Description says Full Steel.
VSS comes with a PSO-1 scope.

Interesting :)

There are pics up on rsov I believe, I've seen them before, just can't remember if it was rsov or not. Not a bad looking gun either

Thats the place BBdragon, I knew it was one of your crazy Taiwan sites

http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_i...oducts_id/2809
http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/images/pr...ges/2809_0.jpg

http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/product_i...oducts_id/2830
http://www.bbdragon.com.tw/images/pr...ges/2830_0.jpg

Uhhhh...... Which one to get? Both are soo awesome. Want specs on both.

No point of pre-order until they confirm the release date..
I'm pretty sure I've seen it on pre-order at UNCompany and then they disappeared..

I would love that Val

The Battlefield 3 fan in me says WAAANNNNTTTT!!!!! :D

Those pictures up above are not of the Zeta labs guns, those are real steel. Zeta has not yet released a full picture

This is the closest they've come to a full picture. Last report was a Late March release but looks like they missed it (Again) I've had a preorder paid up since November for this thing.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1280/valbarrel2.jpg

I want to see them design a new tiny gearbox for this gun....

That's the opposite of what you want!!

You want them to design a full sized standardized gearbox!!

No gearbox. You want it to be gas.

I mean full sized gearbox wouldnt fit this small gun..

version 3? it is very similar in size to a ak reciever.

Its not similar in size at all..

Look at what people had to do to "vintorez" to fit V3 gearbox: http://i53.tinypic.com/2cegm5h.jpg
So, new gearbox unless you want something along the lines of "JG SVD"..

looking at it, it does sound possible to use a Ver. 3 gearbox, only problem is where the battery goes since you can't use the top cover.