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phloudernow May 25th, 2011 20:31

Can GBB mags be Abused?
 
So i was wondering, cuz i do quite a bit of CQB back in hong kong and we use handguns alot and i was wondering if it is possible for me to drop mags to the floor when speed reloading without fucking them up, for example in IPSC they usually drop their mags to the floor for a speed reload, even in airsoft IPSC ive seen a couple vids where some ppl do,

so is it safer to do it with a marui hi capa? or can i do it with my KSC glock 17?
i hate having to do tactical reloads in the heat of a battle =.= really want to know if i wont damage my mags to the extent they will leak gas if i drop them from my gun

coach May 25th, 2011 20:39

I would say glock mags would leak sooner then hicapa's because of the different base plates. Hicapa's have a larger bumper that seem to offer a rad more shock resistance.

Here for CAPS, there's usually a mat placed where most mag changes might occur, which helps absorb some shock.

But YMMV as it all depends how they fall. Personally, I wouldn't do it for indoor CQB games but might at an outdoor field where there's grassy areas.

ap27 May 25th, 2011 20:53

If by any chance the mag falls on the feed lip, top-side down, theres a very good chance the feed lip will break off. A direct drop on the base plate might be bad as well.

phloudernow May 25th, 2011 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1472571)
I would say glock mags would leak sooner then hicapa's because of the different base plates. Hicapa's have a larger bumper that seem to offer a rad more shock resistance.

Here for CAPS, there's usually a mat placed where most mag changes might occur, which helps absorb some shock.

But YMMV as it all depends how they fall. Personally, I wouldn't do it for indoor CQB games but might at an outdoor field where there's grassy areas.

so its ok if i drop it on a grass field yeah? cuz we have some speed ball sized fields in hong kong where we play pistol only, and it would be great if i could just speed reload and continue moving :P so yeh

Ross May 25th, 2011 20:57

It's bad to get dirt in them and someone could step on them once you drop them. If you have a surplus of mags and don't mind buying an extra one every once in a while, go nuts. Just make sure they are cleaned.

coach May 25th, 2011 21:19

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Originally Posted by phloudernow (Post 1472579)
so its ok if i drop it on a grass field yeah? cuz we have some speed ball sized fields in hong kong where we play pistol only, and it would be great if i could just speed reload and continue moving :P so yeh

I wouldn't say it's okay, but it's not something I'd have to think long about if I "had" to do a speed reload.

As mentioned, you have to worry about losing them, getting dirt packed into it from someone stepping on it or breaking the main seal or feed lips.

It's really all up to you to decide if it's something you can afford to do.

Honestly, I'd much rather do a tactical reload and toss the mag in front of me or into the dump pouch. I really don't like going back looking for dropped gear. If you practice your tac reloads and drill it into yourself to develop the muscle memory, you can be just as fast as a speed reload.

ShelledPants May 25th, 2011 21:27

We speed reload indoors on wooden flooring all the time. Mags break. It happens.

Which is worth more to you, being a high speed no drag operator, or breaking the bank over some magazines?

Spike May 25th, 2011 21:37

You could get magpul speedplates for your glock, they're rubber so it should help soften the fall.

Amos May 26th, 2011 02:02

With my KWA CZ75 I throw my mags everywhere all the time.

No damage at all, just need to keep 'em clean.

Reckless May 29th, 2011 22:01

in the middle of a firefight, my TM Desert eagle mags drop and fall where ever they fall LOL worse I've had so far is dirt and crap INSIDE the magazine

but before every game day I check my mags over for dirt/debris and damage ... so far.. so good :D

TM DE mags are also pretty heavy, metal baseplates... with the exception of the feed lips on top, but they always fall straight down plate first due to weight.

Cinco Boy May 31st, 2011 13:56

Use a quality dump pouch

m102404 May 31st, 2011 14:20

Depends on the mag a bit...and on the surface A LOT.

At CAPS we drop mags all the time. The base pates, feed lips, etc...take a beating. That's what happens when you drop a TM Hicapa mag on a hardwood floor at speed.

We do put out rubber mats...and it definitely takes the sting out of the impact. However...sometimes it seems like they are just as likely to bounce off the mat, flip over and land on the feed lips.

In a field game....I wouldn't drop them...you're likely not to find them again if you have to relocate.

In a dark indoor game...I wouldn't drop them if it's dark and guys are running all over the place....but you do stand a better chance of finding them again.

A retention reload is a good thing to practice. Having a pouch/dump pouch is handy too, but any pocket will do in a pinch.

CDN_Stalker May 31st, 2011 14:38

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Originally Posted by ap27 (Post 1472578)
If by any chance the mag falls on the feed lip, top-side down, theres a very good chance the feed lip will break off. A direct drop on the base plate might be bad as well.

Agreed. Consider the bounce, if it lands on the base it'll bounce up and rotate, likely landing on the feedlips. Also consider the mag hitting a pouch, leg, foot, etc. and bouncing. Breakage, denting will be highly likely overall. GBB mags are made of cast aluminum and are rather soft, the last thing anyone wants to do is drop one on purpose.

ThunderCactus June 1st, 2011 03:41

I used to tether my M4 mags to my OTV so they wouldn't hit the ground before I got decent double mag pouches. You could tether your pistol mags to yourself lol


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