I just went back to anti C-71 FB group to screen shot the post but it's gone now. Weird... Especially weird because head admin made that post.

That is super weird.

I dont understand why they still wouldnt just try to vote no and see what happens and try to ammend it later if it fails.

Man, it's 21st century; when is this board going to support all modern features that allow a much richer experience of sharing data?


Anyway:https://youtu.be/qnEzSH1cgQ4
Parlament debate around C-21

Conservative MP is on 30th minute of this video.

Facebook had started to prohibit all sorts of content with relationship to gun culture as well as many other things that do not fit their policies.

I'm not sure why airsofters are still using that dumpster to share and look for information. FB even blocks URLs to this forum.

I tried to watch the reading of the bill , but someone is going to have give the cliff notes version , I had to turn it off , when Bill Blair speaks , it becomes clear this is not about safety , it comes off to me as a literal hatred for the gun culture & anything and anyone even remotely related to any firearms airguns toys etc , I literally felt sick to my stomach , & with his tone temperament & attitude & when he starts going on about "this is not like the states ,we dont have have rights , we have privileges" I was like ok Im done I cant watch any more, this guy is a raving lunatic , & it is very concerning someone with this type of twisted hatred for law abiding citizens has any power or platform or power what so ever , hopefully this will get sorted out, & these types of discriminatory misguided personalities will be routed from power & or be restricted from harassing law abiding citizens ever again , this video has some of his lies , heck these are the parts when he was somewhat calm when I tuned in he was loud & angry ..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6nhJc3i00&t=25s & full version here if you can stomach it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnEzSH1cgQ4

It's definitely at least remotely positive. I was starting to get worried as I have heard nothing from any NDP member through my opposition letters, in terms of requesting a party position on the issue.

And I agree with your views on the NDP's firearm position. I would never vote for them. Hopefully in the short term, C-21 goes away. Buys the community more time to show everyone who we are, maybe even get some more people interested in the hobby.

Well, there are people who voted these types of people into the Parlament.
You should watch it. It's only like 15-20min of his blah-blah-blah. The remaining half an hour, conservative MP opposing Liberal BS with some strong language.

You can speed it up by about x1.5 and still understand what is being said.

Great job to all who put in so much effort into this movement!

Dont forget the green party mp smugly saying "these people obviously dont know the law, we dont EVEN HAVE property rights in canada"

Dude, its Green. She was actually into other stuff but she did make her point.

So some have asked why is airsoft lumped into this bill, it is simple, for the same reason the Mossberg 715T was lumped into the OIC.

So this is the Mossberg 715T:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/55...cbe5d3ddfd.jpg

The rifle consists of nothing more than a dollar store plastic shell placed over a normal Mossberg Plinkster (which is not restricted nor effected by the OIC).

Mossberg 702 Plinkster:

https://www.gotenda.com/wp-content/u...%AC-scaled.jpg

Here is inside the 715T:

https://i.imgur.com/0HKAhra.jpg

In the early days of the manufacturing of the 715T, Mossberg literally took a 702 plinkster receiver and barrel and put them into the shell. You could open up your 715T and marked on the barrel and receiver inside it was stamped 702 Plinkster. It was until the last couple years that Mossberg started stamping them 715T on the receivers.

So you want to know why airsoft is lumped in? Same reason as the 715T, it LOOKS LIKE AN AR. They want an easy identification that police can see an AR and instantly know it's illegal and seize and arrest. No wondering if this is one of the non-restricted models or if it's airsoft. That is it. But they can't just prohibited one model of airsoft gun, that would be annoying and open up too much for legal battles. Much easier to just ban them all.

My first gun when I got my pal was a plinkster

From the RCMP website:

"A licence is not required to possess a replica firearm, and it does not have to be registered. However, individuals cannot acquire, make or import a replica firearm."

RCMP made false public statements in the past, so did Bill Blair. Man made a false statement yesterday ffs. In an open air. Those statements are not laws, cant use it in court. Ian Runkle actually talked about them posting things online without realising they might get people in trouble. Watch the video about legality of 12ga shotguns.

Drache, and your post proves that Ian was right. You saw something official posted on RCMP website and you automatically assumed it was legit. That’s exactly what happened after May 1st ban. People kept asking questions and probably bombarding them with phone calls so they made a post in order to get everyone off of their back. Blair backed it up too. Thing is, RCMP does not make laws. They enforce it. That is not something I thought of. This is something a criminal lawyer came up with after he looked over statements and analysed paperwork released by government after May ban.