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Cardinal69 July 7th, 2011 12:45

Airsoft Collector item
 
Hello All, Couple of quick questions regarding old school airsoft.

I have a KHC Beretta M92F non blowback and runs on Flon B.

1.) What can I use instead of flon B (Freon 12) to run this gun?

2.) This gun is from the beginnings of airsoft around the 1980's, does anyone have any clue what sort of value?

Firewalker July 10th, 2011 02:57

You can switch to HFC134a (which replaced Freon 12). It has about the same pressures and tolerances.

As for worth? That I don't know. I'd assume as a collector piece, it'd fetch a pretty penny, but as a fieldable piece, there's probably better items (mags? parts? etc.). It's a toss-up. You'd have to find a collector willing to pay a premium above a similar gun's price for its collectible nature. Rarity also factors into it as well.

I'd look at what a similar gun will fetch now, how rare the piece is and play up its collectability if you plan on selling it.

EagleDriver July 10th, 2011 10:21

The KHC M92F was first made in 1998. Based on Yahoo Japan it has a current retail value of between $30 and $60 USD (3,000 to 5,000 YEN.) I picked mine up about 2 years ago for $35 USD. I have not tried a different gas in mine, but it would not hurt to try duster gas if the adapter will fit the fill nozzle.

http://www.baltimorecs.com/classics/KHC/m92f-1.jpg

sortie39 July 10th, 2011 13:36

KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

BloodSport July 10th, 2011 13:52

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Originally Posted by sortie39 (Post 1498525)
KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

Based upon what?

akamikeee July 10th, 2011 14:04

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Originally Posted by sortie39 (Post 1498525)
KHC is a japan company?? I bet its the crappiest!

Can't speak about the M9 as I have never owned one, but the KHC Maverick was a neat gun.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...averickM88.jpg

R.I.T.Z July 10th, 2011 14:24

is that a shotgun? :S

Thenooblord July 10th, 2011 14:33

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Originally Posted by BloodSport (Post 1498534)
Based upon what?

obviously based on his comprehensive and deep knowledge of every japanese airsoft brand ever, and definitely not making dumb assumptions based on nothing

sortie39 July 10th, 2011 14:33

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Originally Posted by BloodSport (Post 1498534)
Based upon what?


you get what you paid ..:)

akamikeee July 10th, 2011 14:34

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Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z (Post 1498545)
is that a shotgun? :S

Yes, it's a replica of a Mossberg 500 bullpup shotgun

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/usa/mossberg-500-e.html

L473ncy July 10th, 2011 15:43

Does anyone else think the "C" in KHC kind of looks like the "C" in the KWC logo? Or as a matter of fact the entire logo kind of looks like a ripoff of the KWC logo or vice versa?

BloodSport July 10th, 2011 19:49

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Originally Posted by sortie39 (Post 1498550)
you get what you paid ..:)

But it being made in Japan has no bearing on that. Some of the best airsoft guns period are made in Japan.

Drake July 10th, 2011 20:43

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Originally Posted by Thenooblord (Post 1498549)
obviously based on his comprehensive and deep knowledge of every japanese airsoft brand ever, and definitely not making dumb assumptions based on nothing

You mean like you keep doing?


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