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Lycanthrope January 8th, 2012 06:24

Green laser for KSC MP9
 
Hello everyone, I have recently purchased a KSC MP9 and I am in the market for a green laser that will fit on the tac rail on the right hand side of the gun. It needs to be easily visible from far away in a CQB arena, it also needs to come with a mount and I would rather it didn't break the bank.

Obviously it also has to be durable.
Please leave your suggestions below,
Lycan

Phileas Fogg January 8th, 2012 08:38

You should not use lasers playing airsoft using them can cause permanent damage to your coplayers eyes.

Kingsix January 8th, 2012 09:18

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Originally Posted by Fileasfog (Post 1585850)
You should not use lasers playing airsoft using them can cause permanent damage to your coplayers eyes.

Depends on Class of laser, Low powered lasers are safer but seem to cost more. Red and Green lasers at <5mW are considered safe as they invoke the blink reflex. However it is advised not to stare into the laser as flashblindness and glare can occur but no permanent damage would occur.

The airsoft community tends to frown upon laser use as alot of lasers marketed towards airsoft are above class 2 5mW+. Also Cheaper Chinese lasers may have poorer QC and output more energy then advertised.

Consult your local field/players if they are ok with lasers before fielding a laser. Not all players feel safe with lasers and potiential eye damage.

phloudernow January 8th, 2012 09:18

just buy a green laser and get a standard 20mm scope mount or whatnot and mount it :) SIMPLE

FOX_111 January 8th, 2012 10:21

Lasers are banned in Québec simply because their safety features are replicas or innexistant. And their power output is not always matching what's on the sticker. Most of them have powerfull UV rays that are not filtered.

My left eye was burned by a green laser in a CQB game a few years ago...

Do a search on the subject. It's been explaned and discussed in lenght.

dutch13 January 8th, 2012 11:13

Here in Manitoba we never use green lasers in the field. But red lasers are used from time to time.

Lycanthrope January 8th, 2012 15:40

Thanks everyone I won't be using a laser any more

MultipleParadox January 9th, 2012 10:37

A note about what I think is a myth concerning low-powered green (vs red):

Yes low power red laser are considered harmless like stated above; but be more cautious when it comes to green.

Green lasers work in a totally different way than red: An infrared diode is used instead of a red one, and its light is passed through different crystals to change its wavelength and get the green. The process reduces the light's power significantly and as a result, to achieve let's say 5mW of Green light, you need a much stronger infrared one.

High quality laser will have good IR filters and won't pose much problems, but as most of people prefer to not spend their paycheck on a low powered laser, we end up buying cheap chinese stuff. In these the IR filter is mostly non-existent or ineffective, and will allow a good amount of IR light outs, which can pose a threat to you and others. Even more so considering this light is invisible but can still cause damage.

Be even more careful when buying cheap, high powered green lasers.

ThunderCactus January 9th, 2012 12:25

The majority of green lasers are 8mW, that's why nobody uses them in manitoba.
It's way easier to find a <5mW red laser than a green one

GRIM January 9th, 2012 13:05

yeah green lasers are a bad idea, I had a green laser in my eye from an outdoor game in the day time, I felt it! Was not cool, and my eye was a little weird and twitchy for almost the entire day.

Better off to just not use them, if you want it for Target Practice or looks that's fine.

Oborous January 9th, 2012 15:55

MultipleParadox has it down. The only thing I'd add is the frequency doubler crystal in cheap green lasers may be too small/not properly heatsinked and can drift quite a bit in frequency which will lead to permanent damage of cheap IR filters.

In Edmonton we do not allow green lasers as we cannot guarentee 'high quality'. I personally use a red laser only for designating buildings (The shots were coming from that {light it up} building), never for actually aiming at people.

Grudge January 9th, 2012 16:06

With the Manitoba Airsoft Association unless you get your laser tested by a professional and certified 5mW or less it can't be used on a field. Most players don't know or couldn't be bothers to find someone to test, so no lasers.

ThunderCactus January 9th, 2012 18:49

It's spelled "Laser"

GRIM January 10th, 2012 00:23

That I could go for, using lasers to ID certain locations etc.

But for aiming at other people... Ehhh tooo much risk.

lurkingknight January 10th, 2012 15:02

I don't even want to see it on someone's gun, things can be turned on by accident by bumping into something being knocked or jostled around while running, tripping/falling, getting caught on clothing, and since everything is a shitty china repro in the airsoft world, even more reason not to trust them.

remove any sort of risk by removing the device entirely.


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