ICS cansoft vs. ICS full metal
 

what's the big difference of those two? the internals and externals? which one is better and explain... Mach1airsoft.com has ICS guns. I plan to buy another ICS gun from Mach1airsoft in the future...

nothing is different internally. Cansoft just means the receiver is transparent.

I can't really tell you what's different, since I never actually had a metal ICS, but my Cansoft version, (which is not so cansoft anymore) never gave me any troubles (internal-wise)
The wiring is very nicely done, although m4's don't have fuses

the motor, it's a weaker version labeled "Infinite" on the cansoft version. It's not TURBO 3000, and not very strong at all.

The lower is plastic but upper is metal, and from what I hear this presents problems for durability because of the metal on plastic. I can't guarantee this but that's what I have heard around.

Now with the full metal versions, well... they're full metal so everything is durable.

Cansoft versions have plastic uppers. Not clear, but plastic.

thats why i never bought one(i have a full metal ICS m4), wanted it for the extra upper but found out it was plastic. i would just go with the full metal goodness thats coming here soon =)

I called the guy from mach1airsoft... they said the motor is the same and all the internals....????? hmmm i guess the main difference is the receiver

Metal receiver = very worth it.

Don't forget, a standard M4 receiver like a Dboy or G&P will not fit an ICS.

Finding a metal receiver separately will be nearly impossible.

its the american version, its the same thing..... theres ICS company here in america and taiwan

Just wait a bit.

Mach1 will eventually have the full line of ICS metal goodness in stock.

It is worth it.

I had an ICS Olympic Arms '97.

And I managed to find a second metal body (body only).
Bought a cansoft ICS to retro-fit. It was not a straight through process.

The lower mechbox is a bit different. It works, but in my case I had to add a thickness or electrical tape to the bottom part of the insides to properly place the mechbox (Otherwise the rear pin would not fit properly and the mechbox had issues engaging). I would say that is is because it was made a bit cheaper (or faster).

The motor is a POS. Change it for anything you have that work. Even a JG motor is better. No torque, the lifetime of a red fish in a toilet bowl.

Other than that, only the upper and lower receiver shells all the other parts are exactly the same as the normal metal one.

The plastic version is still WAY better than most other M4s out there, but the metal one is worth every single penny.

the biggest difference is that one of these (cansoft) is about to loose all of its value, due to new developments in importation for a certain business

I have several full-metal ICS's and none have had any problems for 3 years. My M16 ICS (full metal) has been a loaner gun countless times, and still shoots reliably and hard.

A bit late but....

I don't know who fed you that information, but here's my proof, taken out of Cansoft ICS M4.

says strictly Made in Taiwan, with bunch of chinese characters

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1874/dscf1919.jpg

The bunch of chinese characters basically just means infinite :D

無 = no
限 = limit

Forgive my ignorance, but have the laws regarding importing airsoft been changed? Are stores bringing in Full Metal guns now? Does this mean the price isn't Highway Robbery anymore?

I hadn't heard. :confused:

*Mods, my appoligies if this is considered 'hijacking' the thread*

Please explain I think you're on to something here. :) coz if its coming then i might as well wait.

Yes things have changed.
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The information is easily available if you peruse the FAQ's and read it intently however we cannot help non AV'ed members with this matter specifically as there is a rule in place of not helping AV'ed members with such a question. Anything else, gear related, mod related, repair and upgrade related we will gladly help however this one subject out hands are pretty much tied.

Oh, My bad then. I had read the General FAQs again, but saw no change in regards to importing. Everything seemed to talk about 2004, so I assumed it hadn't been updated yet.

I'm underage (17 this year), so I wont bother you with any more questions. It was just out of curiosity/a bit of shock, and for when and if I do get into the sport next year. For my purposes now (Filmmaker, I signed up here to get Uniform help), any type of Airsoft Gun is a little expensive as a prop. :p

lower receiver
 

how much does a lower receiver cost once i get av'd

ICS? Just read this thread as it was already stated that ICS has a unique receiver and that makes it near impossible to find.

You sometimes find used full ICS metal receivers in the classifieds. Usually it's from people parting out guns. They can sell upwards of $200-250, depending on their condition.

I have an extra one brand new if you like, but get age verified first. I was gonna buy another ICS mp5, because i switch my old sd5 to sd6. message me for the price ill let you know with tax and shipping included.