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Twin#1[Op-for] November 28th, 2009 20:37

Which pistol do you like more?
 
Title says it all. Also, if you can please post why. Just looks? Functionality or performance?

CDN_Stalker November 28th, 2009 20:48

I'd say Glock 19 over a 17 due to it being more ergonomic and reliable (GBBwise that is), and I'd choose my MK23 over a 1911 style any day. So I couldn't vote, but two things about your gun choices, the G17 has a shorter (faster cycling rate) than the Para, and a different grip angle that makes it more suited to instinctive shooting. Add in a lower profile (distance between the hand and the sights)............. G17 hands down. Gonna vote now, just because I've done some pretty awesome things with Glocks instinctively, where I find 1911 style guns awkward (as awkward as Armalites in fact).

Twin#1[Op-for] November 28th, 2009 20:50

Well I have an M4, but ok :P So you think that the Glock feels better overall? I'm going to handle the two before I decide for myself, but I want others opinions on their experiences.

skalnok November 28th, 2009 21:02

im a huge fan of 1911 style guns, and i voted to represent this but now that i think about it go for the glock, the double stack 1911s have huge grips ( and i have big hands) where as the glocks are also very comfy.

ive had both and i prefered them like this single stack 1911/usp>glock> double stack 1911

coach November 28th, 2009 21:02

I have both. They are too different IMO.
The P14 is a lot bigger and heavier than the glock. The slide lock is more awkward to actuate. If you have smaller hands, the G17 is going to be a better fit. P14 mag is a lot bigger than that of a 1911. double stack vs single.

break it down to what brands of each you are considering and it'll make it easier for people to help you.

Twin#1[Op-for] November 28th, 2009 21:06

Well a friend that has quit airsoft is selling it to me. He can't remember the exact brand, but he says it's one of the top brands. Don't worry though, I will conform this, and handle them myself. I love the look of both, price is crazy, so I can't decide.

skalnok November 28th, 2009 21:15

most p14.45s are WE or WA so either a goodish brand( depending if its a lemon or not) and a great brand lol

Twin#1[Op-for] November 28th, 2009 21:16

That's good...I don't think it's a lemon since he's used it before, albeit not much. He wouldn't lie to be either, so I doubt he'd sell me something broken or about to break haha. I'm still torn though. I was thinking about getting a chrome slide for the one I get...but I haven't looked into that yet. haha

hattrick November 28th, 2009 21:30

Noone makes a good p14 (kjw p14 = out of the question)

TM glock 17 100% for the win. Solid, reliable. Accurate. Many parts available. Need I go on? Pm me.

coach November 28th, 2009 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1112918)
I love the look of both, price is crazy, so I can't decide.

I like mine too and still have them even though I put them up for sale at one point.

price is crazy as in high or really good?

I added a cheap HFC G17 to dual wield with but the TM gen 3 is far superior even with the plastic slide. The HFC only seems to shoot harder but it's probably due to the heavier metal slide.

The WE P14 I have is great but there is some play in the slide and mag well which causes it to rattle a little when you shake it.

By far my favourite pistol is the TM MK23. NBB yes but more accurate and powerful. :D the mini silent hand canon!!

Twin#1[Op-for] November 28th, 2009 21:32

Well I'm not sure if it's TM yet...I'll update you guys when I find out. Then it would go well with my CA M4 :)

hattrick November 28th, 2009 21:55

Airsoft surgon makes extra light metal slides that require NO modification. I could have done it with a blindfold. (any requests for a youtube vid?)

The TM hop up is regarded (among gbb's) the very best in the market. (makes for a VERY accurate pistol)

The grip is made of (once again) VERY strong plastic. A cheap slip on rubber grip makes it feel like gold.

You REALLY can't go wrong with the TM 3rd generation glock 17.

Did I mention TM recently released a TM 3rd gen with a ported barrel, exteneded magwell & race style grip? (im not sure what else to call it :\ )


-alex is s0o0o0 tired.

aZn_triXta07 November 28th, 2009 22:19

I have a bunch of KJW P14 magazines lying around here but haven't been able to find a P14 fornkyseld :(

Since you are discussing a GBB go with the G17 only if it's a Marui or a clone

Mr. G36! November 28th, 2009 22:34

Personally, I'm not a fan of either Glocks or 1911s, but if I had to choose one, I'd go with the P-14 .45. Big round, big mag, big gun. The Glock looks like a Cabbage-patch Kid compared to that beast. Plus you can't go wrong when you go Canadian!

naminator November 28th, 2009 23:00

Making fun of glocks tsk tsk...

Still not a fan of guns made out of plastic. Prefer my 1911 over the glocks..... but I wouldn't mind having both. Voted .45.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. G36! (Post 1112955)
Personally, I'm not a fan of either Glocks or 1911s, but if I had to choose one, I'd go with the P-14 .45. Big round, big mag, big gun. The Glock looks like a Cabbage-patch Kid compared to that beast. Plus you can't go wrong when you go Canadian!


vondnik November 28th, 2009 23:52

sig p226 in .357 sig with tritium night sights, hogue grip panels and surefire X400 light

Twin#1[Op-for] November 28th, 2009 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1112935)
I like mine too and still have them even though I put them up for sale at one point.

price is crazy as in high or really good?

I added a cheap HFC G17 to dual wield with but the TM gen 3 is far superior even with the plastic slide. The HFC only seems to shoot harder but it's probably due to the heavier metal slide.

The WE P14 I have is great but there is some play in the slide and mag well which causes it to rattle a little when you shake it.

By far my favourite pistol is the TM MK23. NBB yes but more accurate and powerful. :D the mini silent hand canon!!

Seen and shot the MK23's...love them as well. The price is crazy low due to my friend needing money for other hobbies, not to mention the deal because we are friends. the least I can do is buy his pistol since he partially started me on air soft :)

safx November 29th, 2009 00:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by hattrick (Post 1112934)
Noone makes a good p14 (kjw p14 = out of the question)

TM glock 17 100% for the win. Solid, reliable. Accurate. Many parts available. Need I go on? Pm me.

I had a full metal WA SCW1
Para p14 (military style) with
Canadian trades, complete WGC
custom build. Was a sweet gun,
but I sold it to chase other tail.

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...y/IMG_2925.jpg

Unfortunately you're probably
going to have to settle for a
WE or KJW.. both are crap but
I think the KJ is mostly modeled
after the WA so 90% of the parts
are compatible. Mags and a few
frame parts are not since WA
uses a plate on the mag to keep
the valve open, and KJ do it with
a piece on the frame.

I'm not a fan of glocks at all but
the TM G17 is a solid performer
in stock form, doesn't really need
any upgrades but if you get the
itch, there's a plethora waiting.

six4 November 29th, 2009 06:11

You know me,,I'm all about the pistol! However in this case I haven't owned or fired the g-17 so I don't have to much to add here.I have owned a p14-15 para-ord ( first airsoft pistol way back when ) I guess all I can add is that to this day I regret selling the para. One of the few pistols that have true full metal mags and not the cheap plastic tips that can break off when dropped or if the mag spring is suddenly let go during a reload.....

(ps) and for the love of god don't buy a WE pistol in any version.

hattrick November 29th, 2009 13:57

Yer always picking on me steve.


Not saying I don't like it ;)

Ayashifx55 November 29th, 2009 16:38

even hitman uses 1911 ... ;P

Twin#1[Op-for] November 29th, 2009 19:18

Alright, I will make my final decision when I handle them! Thanks guys

mas_oyama December 1st, 2009 07:45

I voted for the 1911, but that is really just a preference. It was also a very tough choice to make, cause for my tastes, the 1911 is the #1 pistol, glock is like #1.1... lol So this was fairly tough to decide. But I just love 1911s... I love the look of it, the grip safety, and also I think 1911 shoots faster than glocks in airsoft. (by faster I mean fps, not rate of fire.)

coach December 1st, 2009 08:18

remember guys, just because the p14.45 is styled like a 1911, it does not feel and handle quite like a 1911. the p14 grip is much fatter and overall is fairly heavy compared to the 1911.

Dirty Deeds December 1st, 2009 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDN_Stalker (Post 1112900)
I'd say Glock 19 over a 17 due to it being more ergonomic and reliable (GBBwise that is), and I'd choose my MK23 over a 1911 style any day. So I couldn't vote, but two things about your gun choices, the G17 has a shorter (faster cycling rate) than the Para, and a different grip angle that makes it more suited to instinctive shooting. Add in a lower profile (distance between the hand and the sights)............. G17 hands down. Gonna vote now, just because I've done some pretty awesome things with Glocks instinctively, where I find 1911 style guns awkward (as awkward as Armalites in fact).

Quoted for truth.

I've been in the heat of battle when my Armalite failed, pulled out the Glock 18C and went to work, I actually got more kills with my Glock, than my Armalite that day.

I've owned the GBB version of the 1911 and didn't like it, however I have a real 1911 which I absolutly love.

here is some video of my old 18C......I miss her.

YouTube- Airsoft KWA Glock 18C 50 rounds straight

YouTube- Glock 18C 23 rounds

Dirty Deeds December 1st, 2009 14:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by vondnik (Post 1112982)
sig p226 in .357 sig with tritium night sights, hogue grip panels and surefire X400 light

Airsoft man airsoft!

Did you get it yet? Or is it still on order?

vondnik December 6th, 2009 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty Deeds (Post 1114486)
Airsoft man airsoft!

Did you get it yet? Or is it still on order?

oups.... Yeah I got it... if you think .40s&W is snappy then you've seen nothing.... currently I'm pushing a 115gr bullet at 1600fps.....

Twin#1[Op-for] December 12th, 2009 17:16

Alright he messaged me back and they are the KSC Glock 17, and the KJW Para. PAra is full metal. Which should I get?

Amos December 12th, 2009 17:18

KSC

GSK88 December 12th, 2009 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1122559)
Alright he messaged me back and they are the KSC Glock 17, and the KJW Para. PAra is full metal. Which should I get?

KSC Glocks are great. I've had 2 so far, a 23F and a 19. Both were great, 23F had a valve break. Probably from full auto though. 19 is probably the gun I regret selling most.

skalnok December 12th, 2009 18:01

get the ksc glock, no questions asked.

coach December 12th, 2009 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 1122560)
KSC

ditto

Twin#1[Op-for] December 13th, 2009 03:05

Alrighty then, Glock it is! Thanks guys


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