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CanadianM4 September 14th, 2009 20:03

Is "Armor" Really Needed?
 
Hi, I made one post here today earlier, (actually not to lond ago), and one thing that I really wanna know is why...why the armor? I know for the following reasons:

-Provides Protection (I see a lot of people use it for that reason)
-Hold Your Magazines (obviously a good reason to have it)
-Makes The Game Seem More Realistic (which is good).

Well, basically, my question is, is it really used for armor (in the sense of pain-reduction)? I think that the last 2 reasons are good enough for a reason, but obviously not everyone thinks like that, kind of like the noobs on "YouTube", that make them out of foam, paper towels, and freakin cardboard and paper...lulz.

This does NOT include safety glasses/goggles!

xelamander September 14th, 2009 20:10

you dont need it, that is until you get shot on the nipples.

Evans September 14th, 2009 20:11

I personally play with a vest to hold my mags. I usually play in a T-shirt and it's only on bare skin that the welts get noticeable usually. You don't really need it unless you are trying to protect a sensitive area.

CanadianM4 September 14th, 2009 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evans (Post 1064826)
I personally play with a vest to hold my mags. I usually play in a T-shirt and it's only on bare skin that the welts get noticeable usually. You don't really need it unless you are trying to protect a sensitive area.

Oh, okay, like I thought then :P, Thanks!

CanadianM4 September 14th, 2009 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by xelamander (Post 1064825)
you dont need it, that is until you get shot on the nipples.

Lol, I went paintballing one time (I love airsoft WAAAY more!), and I got shot dead on in the nipple...It was my first shot, other than the mask (which doesn't really count, because its not really a body part :P), but it was painfull...Kind of like on the ground painfull...:S.

kalnaren September 14th, 2009 20:21

Most people wear an LBV or similar rig, because it's a pain in the ass to carry 6-10 magazines, a canteen of water, snacks, a spare battery or two, extra BB's, a speed loader, notepad, and first aid kit all in your pockets.

Yes, I do carry all that on me when I play.

lemegacool September 14th, 2009 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1064833)
Most people wear an LBV or similar rig, because it's a pain in the ass to carry 6-10 magazines, a canteen of water, snacks, a spare battery or two, extra BB's, a speed loader, notepad, and first aid kit all in your pockets.

Yes, I do carry all that on me when I play.

you forgot radio and grenades lol:p

CanadianM4 September 14th, 2009 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1064833)
Most people wear an LBV or similar rig, because it's a pain in the ass to carry 6-10 magazines, a canteen of water, snacks, a spare battery or two, extra BB's, a speed loader, notepad, and first aid kit all in your pockets.

Yes, I do carry all that on me when I play.


Uh...wow...I was just put to shame right there, lol.

ShelledPants September 14th, 2009 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1064833)
Most people wear an LBV or similar rig, because it's a pain in the ass to carry 6-10 magazines, a canteen of water, snacks, a spare battery or two, extra BB's, a speed loader, notepad, and first aid kit all in your pockets.

Yes, I do carry all that on me when I play.

Other people like to carry a light rig for mags/radio and throw the other crap in a backpack they can dump at respawn/FOB/beginning of firefight.

theguy September 14th, 2009 20:26

As Kalnaren said, Most of us wear some kind of Plate carrier/Chest rig.

Everything from light basic chest rigs that hold a few mags, to what i use, a full size CIRAS plate carrier.

To each his own, each has pros and cons.

kalnaren September 14th, 2009 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelledPants (Post 1064839)
Other people like to carry a light rig for mags/radio and throw the other crap in a backpack they can dump at respawn/FOB/beginning of firefight.

I used to do that. Got to be too much of a pain in the ass. My LBV is distributes the weight really well so it's not bad at all to carry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemegacool (Post 1064836)
you forgot radio and grenades lol:p

And the brass knuckles!

Janus September 14th, 2009 20:41

Man, I feel like a dork. Not only do I wear a MOLLE plate carrier with 10 mags, radio and grenade pouch (2 spare 40mm, 3 Tornados), I carry spare stuff in my ALICE pack (with a camelback in it) which includes first aid, scenario props, claymores, extra ammo, and Mac11s.

Not to mention the twin Beretta M9SVs on each leg....

Good god. I need to stop carrying so much shit.

Lerch September 14th, 2009 20:44

The basic answer is no, armour is not needed.

That said, load bearing gear is recommended because loading your pockets with a days warfighting goodies is not effective.

It's all in the wording. It's also all about the LCF for most people ;)

xelamander September 14th, 2009 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janus (Post 1064850)
Man, I feel like a dork. Not only do I wear a MOLLE plate carrier with 10 mags, radio and grenade pouch (2 spare 40mm, 3 Tornados), I carry spare stuff in my ALICE pack (with a camelback in it) which includes first aid, scenario props, claymores, extra ammo, and Mac11s.

Not to mention the twin Beretta M9SVs on each leg....

Good god. I need to stop carrying so much shit.

lol! why am i surprised you can still walk with all that sh1t on you?

coach September 14th, 2009 20:54

I started out with a BHI vest which is fairly thin but recently started using a molle plate carrier without plates. only reason I changed rigs is because I too carry way too much and needed a molle rig. 8-12 metal primary mags, another 3-8 pistol mags and pistols (1xleg rig, 2 on belt on back, 1 somewhere in a mag pouch or tucked in my chest), up to 5x40mm (3 of which are always kings), radio, snacks, 3L camelbak, and an m500 in a scabbard on my back. that's the most I might carry but a good rig will distribute the weight nicely.

a plate carrier is already thick enough that you can feel a BB hit but it won't hurt. now if we could just get people with plate carriers not to insert the foam/plastic plates........ lol

Erennert September 14th, 2009 20:59

Chicom Ftw? 3 highcaps for all day, + small water bottle, and maybe battery, and snacks.

HeadlessChicken September 14th, 2009 21:29

I would think "armor" depends on your playing styles and load out. I have an LAPD style SWAT vest which I gamed once, I still felt the hits but they didn't hurt. That was my very first game and I found it really made me sweat, it didn't hold my M4 mags very well, it restricted my body movement a little, and it added a bit (though not a whole lot) of extra weight. My second time out I used a universal chest rig which held my mags in nicely and it was a light setup, it didn't however fit my hi cap mags (pistol mag pockets were build for single stacked) though I've found a way around this and I really felt the hits which wasn't too bad since I wear BDUs anyways.

I liked my second setup, its very simple and it works for me. My first setup is more restrictive and limiting but ideal for protection. Two setups, 2 playing styles.

kalnaren September 14th, 2009 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianM4 (Post 1064838)
Uh...wow...I was just put to shame right there, lol.

And new players think we're full of shit when we tell them they need a good vest to play.

Granted, I carry more than necessary, but you will need magazines, water, and while not necessary, snacks are quite nice to have :D

theguy September 14th, 2009 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1064985)
And new players think we're full of shit when we tell them they need a good vest to play.

Granted, I carry more than necessary, but you will need magazines, water, and while not necessary, snacks are quite nice to have :D

Yarr

I'm the same, Most games I only shoot less then 30% of the ammo i carry.

Usually at the end of the day, i still have half of my camel back, and a few power-bars left too.

But, its better to be prepared then hungry :P

Slono September 14th, 2009 22:42

I'm new to airsoft and I'm just in the middle of getting my gear in order. But to answer your question, armour is not needed. If you really wanted to, you could wear 5 t-shirts and a hoodie, huge cargo pants and a belt rig along with a camping backpack to store stuff. Its probably the cheapest alternative to buying a complete loadout, though you'd look like a funny person and you might get laughed at.

ShelledPants September 14th, 2009 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slono (Post 1065063)
I'm new to airsoft and I'm just in the middle of getting my gear in order. But to answer your question, armour is not needed. If you really wanted to, you could wear 5 t-shirts and a hoodie, huge cargo pants and a belt rig along with a camping backpack to store stuff. Its probably the cheapest alternative to buying a complete loadout, though you'd look like a funny person and you might get laughed at.

Dude. Hysterical images...

CanadianM4 September 15th, 2009 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 1064985)
And new players think we're full of shit when we tell them they need a good vest to play.

Granted, I carry more than necessary, but you will need magazines, water, and while not necessary, snacks are quite nice to have :D

Your not refering to me...Are you? Because I never said that you were full of shit.

I have the following gear:

-2 Hi-Cap Magazines for M4

-2 pistol magazines

-1 battery (I have 2, one is just in use in gun)

So...What good vest should I get, or should I just use a backpack?

Danke September 15th, 2009 11:55

This is a nice light rig.

http://ascmart.ca/product_info.php?c...products_id=62

These are a bit more $ but also a bit nicer.

http://ascmart.ca/product_info.php?c...products_id=54

http://ascmart.ca/product_info.php?c...products_id=53

Really your best bet is to check some of the rigs out at a local game. Some folks find they need a plate carrier and blast belt with every inch filled with various pouches. I know I'm that way since when I start a game I don't like heading back to the safe zone every hour for water or ammo but other folks won't deal with carrying that much weight all day.

I run a RRV myself with a Camelback clipped on the back and just about every spare inch fiilled along with a blast belt that's also full up..

Blackthorne September 15th, 2009 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanadianM4 (Post 1065369)
Your not refering to me...Are you? Because I never said that you were full of shit.

He is full of shit.



But it's good shit, and it all fits in his LBV. :D

Con Murder September 15th, 2009 12:29

When the game is a long one (3-10 hours) your goona need alot of equipment. If its skirmishes maybe a swat vest will keep you going till the next one. But over all its what will make you feel like a mutha f**kin Killa!

ThunderCactus September 16th, 2009 00:05

To each their own, whatever works for you, works for you!
I personally LOVE plate carriers, as long as it's the right one for me lol
Keeps my mags steady and moving with my body when I run so they're not hitting me in the gut. Provides well needed armor, not just from BB's, but from physical dangers on the field as well!

But for the record, the only vest I would ever even consider using full time again is the camelbak delta-5. That was a FANTASTIC vest

airsoft newbie September 20th, 2009 18:38

Me, personnally I just play in forests and stuff with friends so I wear a shirt BDU (looking for pants). I like it because it has lots of big pockets. I wear an under armour shirt underneath to keep the sweat away, and on top of that a t shirt.
If you are looking for a cheaper alternative than a vest, the shirt costs around $10-$30 and the pants about the same. The cheapest vest I found was $70. Also, the advantage with BDUs is that they help you blend in to your environnement, however you get less space than vest.

hope this helps.

Mitchell12 September 20th, 2009 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by airsoft newbie (Post 1069014)
Me, personnally I just play in forests and stuff with friends so I wear a shirt BDU (looking for pants). I like it because it has lots of big pockets. I wear an under armour shirt underneath to keep the sweat away, and on top of that a t shirt.
If you are looking for a cheaper alternative than a vest, the shirt costs around $10-$30 and the pants about the same. The cheapest vest I found was $70. Also, the advantage with BDUs is that they help you blend in to your environnement, however you get less space than vest.

hope this helps.

You wear a vest with BDU's knob. Bad Advice is Bad.

Lerch September 20th, 2009 19:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitchell12 (Post 1069015)
You wear a vest with BDU's knob. Bad Advice is Bad.

He did say 'cheaper'...and what's cheaper then cramming mags in your pockets and chaffing? :D

kalnaren September 20th, 2009 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne (Post 1065380)
He is full of shit.



But it's good shit, and it all fits in his LBV. :D

Sometimes I carry around a slighshot so I can fling shit around when I run out of BB's.

Mitchell12 September 20th, 2009 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lerch (Post 1069057)
He did say 'cheaper'...and what's cheaper then cramming mags in your pockets and chaffing? :D

Asking your mom to bring you to airsoft and not giving her a kiss good bye.

charlie_hozz September 20th, 2009 20:59

safty
 
I play with my bolle goggle's strap over my ear's to prevent BB's in the ear and I chew gum while I play to help keep my mouth shut so I dont eat BB's,
and my mouth do'snt dry out as soon.


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