How Do I Get Age Verified
 

Hey Guyz,

Im looking to get into airsoft and im think about ordering a G&G GR16 R4 Commando from Mach 1 Airsoft. Now in order to purchase the gun i either have to get age verified on this website or i have to to fax them a "proof of age document". This is something I don't want to do and I would rather have someone age verify me as I am 19 years old. Ive look under age verification on this website and emailed the markham reps that do the age verifying but nobody has answered me back. Is their a place I can go to get age verified? This looks like an awesome sport and i really want to get into it!

Go see Brian at TTAC http://www.fightingartscollective.com/fact/location.cfm, Its located in Toronto and he is usually there Tues & Friday after 8pm. I went last week to get AV'd, he is awesome to deal with. :) Hope this helps!.

You can contact Jugglez and he does AV or you can go see Brian (aka ILLusion) and meet with him. HÃ*s hours are pretty flexible based on my experiences so you dont have to wait till he goes to TAC

If it's any easier ArmyIssue does verification in Port Credit however it's kind of further than Toronto.

Just giving you another option in case Jugglez and Brian can't do it either.

EDIT: I understand how frustrating it can be (took me about a month to schedule an AV time due to conflicting schedules) but it's good that you understand that we need this system to prevent minor proliferation as much as possible (and subsequently minors getting shot/killed or soccer moms lobbying against the sport).

i understand completely y we need to be age verified, i just wish it was a bigger sport in canada, ive been looking on websites and stuff and i can't seem to find any airsoft stores around toronto, mach 1 and 007 airsoft r the only ones i know that carry professional canadian legal guns. Now if i go see Brian at that place do I just have to show him proof of age like my drivers licence and thats it? How does he get this website to make me age verified...is he like an admin or something? Also sorry for all the questions but where do u guyz play their seens to be no airsoft fields in the toronto area except paintball places allowing airsoft players to book times like sgt splatters?

p.s. turok im also into computers...built mine last summer it rocks! can't wait to get into airsoft!

Usually they're paintball venues which airsofters get second dibs on since the paintballers are "what brings in the money" for the field owners (I understand completely, they still need to run a business you know).

However there are a few dedicated fields, TTAC for one which does indoor CQB games. Other than that sometimes someone with contacts can organize games at abandoned hospitals, factories, and such ("Border Wars", "Claybank", and "Cold Front/Keystone" for example). However it's not advised you go to any abandoned buildings with a few friends and start shooting at each other since a lot of planning and such must go into these games before you can even think about stepping foot there.

Basically this forum is a "meeting place" for airsofters around Canada, there are local club forums such as Op-For, BCAC, JOC etc. However as a national forum this kind of represents airsofters in Canada (not to mention some US and European players).

So when you go to get AV'ed you'll show the AV rep your DL, Passport, whatever and they'll make sure who you say you are and that you're really 18+. Once thats done they'll record basic details, basically your name and input it into the "system" on the forums. Once thats done a site Admin will add your name into the database and you'll get your cool tag. This process can take upwards of 2 weeks, since the Admins usually add your name into the database in batches. That's basically the process that I understand it as there may be a few more things that happen but thats essentially what it comes down to.

alright thanks alot for your help, its greatly appreciated...also since professional airsoft guns need to have a clear lower receiver for canadian laws, and therefore you can't bring in full black guns or their destroyed at the border, ive been looking to buy a battery and some gear at airsoft GI, do you know if customs/border will destroy or not allow airsoft batterys or tatical gear in canada?

You will have no problems with batteries and Gear!

There is a list of things that you can't import.

Have a read in this thread http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=40318

Don't be fooled by the marketing gimmick that you can ONLY have a clear AEG. Its not illegal to own or possess a full black gun any more than the clear receiver guns. That is only a law for importation, but once its in country theres nothing against having one. Once you get Age Verified you will be able to browse the classifieds where you can buy used full black, usually full metal guns. Don't think just because its used its "crap". Like its been mentioned go to TTAC3 (go to the events section for Ontario and there should be a sticky all about it, or PM Brian McIllmoyle) so you can get AV'ed, and you might even be able to play if there enough room to accommodate you, and if you can get hold of a rental. Of course the call is up to Brian. Don't be afraid to ask him questions, or any of the others there but a word of advice, listen to what he/they say without any attitude or guff, and you should be alright.

Also to answer most of your questions read through the forums and especially the FAQ and stickies for each forum as they usually have most newbie questions answered and in great detail. Please don't make a new thread for every question you have, as some newbies like to do, without making a little effort to do some of your own research. We are more than happy to help out new people that show the proper attitude and respect, but we are not here to spoonfeed people who can't do their own research.

Welcome! :)

First off I would like to say that Im going to college and im studying to become a police officer so Im sure Brian would be alright with me as a person. I can show him my college ID if he wants it :P. Secondly Im definatley going to get Brian to age verifiy me by visiting his store/area in Toronto. As for making new threads, I won't start a new thread for every question I have, I will just private message the person.

Now on to my last question regarding full black guns. I would love to be able to purchase a full black gun once I am age verfied. Here is the thing. Since Im studying to be a police officer, if im caught doing something wrong I can be thrown out of school. Now ive read the canadian law, and this is just wat i have read so im not arguing, just telling you what i know. I know that full black guns r illegal and are not allowed to be imported or sold to anyone in canada. The only way you are allowed to buy full black guns is by aquiring a licence which i have read about on this forum. its the candian firearms "something" not sure...therefore you can see y i would be nervous about buying a full black gun. Also ive heard that you can be charged if you are caught with a full black gun. Anyway if its possible to get a full black gun and not break the law then yea im rather have a full black gun. who wants the stupid plastic.

You're located in the Markham area? Hrm, don't see any PMs from you in my inbox. Shoot me a PM with your nearest major intersection - I'm free most of tomorrow.

I know police officers that play airsoft... I also know many police students that play airsoft... all of them use black guns.

really okay well im just making sure cause I don't want to get kicked out of school.

Alright that's a valid concern however "clear guns" are only for importation as has been said. Once in country really you can possess anything you want.

However note that if you plan on doing something illegal with said device you will face the full extent of the law.

eg. You decide to rob a store with a "black gun", well not only will you get a robbery charge, you will also face multiple firearm offences. (Note that even if it's a clear gun you can have firearms offences laid on you as the crown treats any firearm used in the process of a criminal offence as the real deal even toy waterguns or a cap gun).

However if you are using said device in a responsible manner you will not be arrested, charged or anything. Also who's to say you didn't get it before 1998 (and therefore have it grandfathered)? I mean your "2008 PTW", or GBB rifle could have always been an experimental "pre-release" prototype.....

lol well i don't plan on breaking the law again cause of school number one and two my whole police career...thanks for letting me know im gonna try to find a full black gun now rahter than buying a clear one...anyone know if a G&G GR16 R4 Commando is being sold?

The problem with airsoft is that its in such a grey area of the law, no one knows what exactly to do about it. As long as you treat it (the airsoft gun) with respect (like a real firearm) then you are fine.

Also, once you get AV'ed, you will find there are much better guns than G&G. Best thing you can do is go to a game, even if you don't play spend some time with the vets, ask to handle their guns (as long as you don't act like a goof people will be more than happy to show you their toys) and you will find out which brands you will like. I understand all you have known as airsoft until now is G&G and ICS because of the marketing ploys of that "canadian legal" nonesense. Tokyo Marui, Classic Army, VFC, Star/Ares, JG, Systemas and all the other high-end guns will be a MUCH better investment for an AEG. I don't see the point of getting "starter" guns, because if you get a kick ass gun right off the bat you will like it more, you will have better performance/reliability, and you will find your integration into airsoft all that more seamless.

Also, make good friends with a good gundoc. They will become your new best friend.

oooo i know their are more than ISC and G&G cause ive been through US websites like airsoft GI which has like 25 brands or so and i Just look through the reviews and stuff and since G&G is the best brand i found reviewing and was only legal in canada through the lower receiver, now that i know i can buy a full black gun i guess i will do more research..im looking for a professional M4 with a rail system cause that is the type of gun i like...also crane stock is prefered for me to so if you guyz no any good ones off by heart please share...thanks for all the help again guys...it is greatly appreciated!

We aren't really supposed to help you tell your AV'd. But honestley once you are AV'd You won't even have to look it'll be right in front of you. Armalites are a dime a dozen.

Unfortunately hes right. We won't tell you what guns to buy until you get your AV status, only because we have minors try and pull fast ones all the time. So we just err on the side of caution. Hopefully you can understand this and wait until you get your AV status.

yea not a problem the sport just looks so fun as im watching alot of airsoft videos on youtube!

Well actually if you can get your hands on one the all black ICS guns are actually great.

Other than that there are plenty of guns in the AV classifieds section. If you're not picky about brand or anything you can find guns from $300 all the way to $3000+ depending on whats included and whats in the package, what kind of modifications were put into the gun, and how much use it's seen. $550 should get you a decent used package with gun, a couple mags, and a scope however I'm not sure of the market right now as I haven't been in the classifieds in a while to see what kind of packages are available right now (not in the market for another gun currently).

Note that airsoft batteries are basically just RC batteries just different shapes, they're both rated for high current output and such. You won't have any problem with customs regarding them. Certain pieces of gear however are a no-no (equipment that falls under ITAR, and other prohibited goods/parts like Receivers).

I bought my M4 for $450 used. It was just a basic package. Gun, battery, and scope. No mags, no charger, nothing extra. Eventually I'll buy more and more gear but start off with the basic fighting equipment and you can work your way up from there.

yea thats wat i plan on doing...i plan on buying the gun in canada then going to airsoft gi (US website) for battery, charger, ammo, vests and other tatical equipment...thats if i really get into it...i need to try to find a place in toronto to rent a gun and play first before spendind a large amount of money as i have to pay for college

Yeah that's probably a good idea. Just renting first to see if you like it. I personally don't have any regrets joining.

Those dammed school fees..... They can burn in hell, and now the universities want to charge us more because of the economy???? Whats up with that? I mean I can manage but others, I've seen other people who have had to take a semester off to work to raise some money to continue school.

Just don't go overboard and you'll be fine. There are a lot of students who spend money on airsoft instead of food, rent, tuition, books etc. and wonder why they have no money and have to sell their guns to pay for school. I'm actually kind of guilty of that but I don't care, I can eat rice every day if I have to, I mean I am Chinese and that's pretty much what I've been eating for the last 19 years (40 lb bag of rice + rice cooker FTW)

yea...this state of the economy is complete BS if u ask me...its in the phrase "you pay more and you get less" its ridiculous the amount of money they charge...i feel really srry for international students who have too pay alot more then we do...lets put it this way...the tuition for an international student is 5 times more then my tuition...lol...thats a complete rip off..anyway back to airsoft...ive heard its a really expensive sport to play...but compared to paintballing i think paintballing is alot more expensive hands down just because u have to refill CO2 and paintballs r a ridiculous amount of money if u want good qulity ones...plus u also have to pay to play as well...airsoft seems expensive initially but after that I think i should be fine money wise