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xPhuong April 10th, 2009 22:53

Not happy with stock Kraken aftermath.
 
Hello, I am looking for parts for my kraken.
I got a bunk kraken aftermath black / tan from buypaintball.ca
It only shoots 300fps and how i know that is because i tested it on a coke can with the .2gram bb's from aftermath and it only piereced one side.

It says 370fps out of the box but i got crapped out.
And now i feel like i'm getting outranged by other players lol because my desert eagle shoots at 300fps too so why not just whip out a pistol all day.

I'm looking for around 385-400fps for my kraken and I wanted a tight bore barrel.
Can you suggest me what I need from airsoftparts.ca?

Styrak April 10th, 2009 23:03

Some 455mm barrel and a Modify S100 spring. Maybe a V3 bearing spring guide as well.

The advertised 370fps on your gun is probably with 0.12's.

m102404 April 10th, 2009 23:03

The following parts in a Kraken are worth your serious consideration for upgrading to durable/reliable/quality parts:
- tappet plate (Modify v3)
- air nozzle (Modify air seal)
- spring guide (Modify bearing v3)
- spring (for FPS...if you do all these parts and set it up nicely a Modify S100 will put you safely under most field limits, 400fps...a Modify S110 might put you over)
- piston head (Modify poly vented bearing)
- piston (Modify poly, full tooth)
- grease (stickyG stuff is pretty good)
- cylinder head (Modify v3)
- cylinder (maybe not if the interior surface is smooth)
- inner barrel (Madbull 6.03 black python v2...AK length)
- hopup rubber (with this setup I'd use a Guarder black)
- shims (Modify ones are fine...but shims are shims)

For most, if not all of those parts...Modify makes quite good stuff, and airsoftparts stocks them all.

BTW...all of those parts may not be necessary...your piston/nozzle compression just might need to be tweaked.

Good luck!

Tys

xPhuong April 10th, 2009 23:23

Nice stuff I'll be certaintly ordering it all when it all comes in stock (currently one of them is on preorder and i'd rather like it all at once :D)

KND April 10th, 2009 23:26

Good Luck ! putting all those parts by yourself. :rolleyes:


KND

m102404 April 10th, 2009 23:27

PM Jugglez (he runs Airsoftparts.ca), and just let him know what you want. If he doesn't have it in stock, it might be part of an incoming shipment already...even still, it's usually only 2 weeks or so to order in pretty much anything.

Best of luck.

Tys

xPhuong April 10th, 2009 23:46

Oh don't worry I'm gonan ask our local gun doc damage to install it for me :D haha. Hey what size cylinder do i get since you didn't specify!

Defcon_Carl April 10th, 2009 23:52

300 fps wow! boy you got lucky its indoor ready :D btw how far where you when you shot the can. with the poor mans chrono, you need to be point blank from the coke can and if it pierces one side only then its 300 if you were standing 10feet away and it pierced one side thats close to 360 fps or more.

xPhuong April 11th, 2009 00:00

no man i put the fricken thing right at point blank the barrel was touching the can and it only pierced one sidE! i was liek WOW WEAK.

yuhaoyang April 11th, 2009 00:36

you have to hold the can with your hand while you shoot it
mine is a consistant 380 in winter

Defcon_Carl April 11th, 2009 00:38

some krakens i know of came 350 stock but i never seen one that shoots 300. i guess thats a good thing since it will hold up pretty well with nylon bushings as oppose to 370fps.

xPhuong April 11th, 2009 00:42

Is that accurate I thought your not suppose to hold the can when you shoot it.?

Edit: i read the poor man's chronograph guide it says not to hold the can. It messes up the details.

Defcon_Carl April 11th, 2009 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by xPhuong (Post 960009)
Is that accurate I thought your not suppose to hold the can when you shoot it.?

you dont have to literally hold it. you can just pin it with one hand while the other one shoots it point blank.

xPhuong April 11th, 2009 00:58

I will retest it then. I don't wanna waste money on parts if I don't have to if it's firing at it's advertised rate. lol i'll get back to you guys tmrw.

Amos April 11th, 2009 01:17

Shoot it through a chronograph.

These can tests are dumb.

Also, FPS means the square root of jack shit.

yuhaoyang April 11th, 2009 03:47

fps on that gun is important. Makes it more appealing to beginners =D
the hop-up is actually pretty decent believe it or not.

Azriel_Strife April 11th, 2009 23:17

You'll want to make sure you get a TM style AK hopup chamber, the stock aftermath one is not compatible with standard upgrade barrels. It has a plastic piece that slides onto the end of the stock aluminum barrel. This causes air leaks.

so make sure you buy a good tightbore and a TM style AK hopup chamber.

yuhaoyang April 12th, 2009 04:07

So... After 10k rounds with the stock kraken spring (I opened it up today, ald also, I preventatively re-shimmed, relubed, then adjusted the motor height to near perfection =p), and the bushings were worn down and wobbled. This will lead to huge gear wear. But that's ok, they are some weird brand that I've never heard of =p. Not even XYT.

xPhuong April 12th, 2009 16:56

lol I see. I'll keep my ak stock for now then. until my gears break down lol

yuhaoyang April 12th, 2009 16:57

you shouldn't... Get some 6mm bushings, because I'm not sure if the gear teeth will bend or shatter. Metal shrapnel being hurled around the inside of your mechbox will damage more than the gears. Oh, and if you can get the piston head pad off, a sorbo will fit. Fact of the matter is, those nylon bushings are terrible. They're grey in color and are slightly irregular on the surface.

xPhuong April 13th, 2009 13:39

Alright I'll do that lol and reshim and regrease will that be enough?

kalnaren April 13th, 2009 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by xPhuong (Post 961046)
lol I see. I'll keep my ak stock for now then. until my gears break down lol

Spend $20 now and a bit of work, or spend $100 when your gears strip.

coach April 13th, 2009 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuhaoyang (Post 960100)
fps on that gun is important. Makes it more appealing to beginners =D
the hop-up is actually pretty decent believe it or not.

I'll still out range your kraken with my Marui AK that shoots 245fps with .25's or roughly Marui's stock numbers of 275-280 on .2's.

fps is not as important as you believe!

yuhaoyang April 13th, 2009 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 961721)
I'll still out range your kraken with my Marui AK that shoots 245fps with .25's or roughly Marui's stock numbers of 275-280 on .2's.

fps is not as important as you believe!

hence the "More appealing to beginners" part. Same with every chinaclone. But honestly, 280fps isn't going to outrange a 380fps gun... Especially since my hop-up works perfectly =p but that doens't matter since I've downgraded my spring to an m90

coach April 13th, 2009 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuhaoyang (Post 961780)
hence the "More appealing to beginners" part. Same with every chinaclone. But honestly, 280fps isn't going to outrange a 380fps gun... Especially since my hop-up works perfectly =p but that doens't matter since I've downgraded my spring to an m90

I mistook you for the OP. but it will most likely out range the kraken. :D

yuhaoyang April 13th, 2009 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 961787)
I mistook you for the OP. but it will most likely out range the kraken. :D

We need a comparison test =p

G36Maniac April 13th, 2009 22:04

I saw nobody saying this: FPS isn't everything, once I run a complete year on my stock (enter a TM or similar airsoft model.) shooting at about 280 fps with .20g and I had a range comparable to all those having a (enter a JG or Kraken airsoft model) shooting at 380 fps because they think more FPS is automaticaly better. Consistency is the key and usually high FPS is the ennemy of consistency.

kalnaren April 13th, 2009 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by G36Maniac (Post 962047)
I saw nobody saying this: FPS isn't everything, once I run a complete year on my stock (enter a TM or similar airsoft model.) shooting at about 280 fps with .20g and I had a range comparable to all those having a (enter a JG or Kraken airsoft model) shooting at 380 fps because they think more FPS is automaticaly better. Consistency is the key and usually high FPS is the ennemy of consistency.

Actually, it has been said several times. Maybe you should re-read the thread? ;)

However, what you say is absolutly correct. Consistency and good parts are the key.

Amos April 13th, 2009 22:11

To further ad to my past statement, FPS means nothing.

I ran a bone stock marui VSR-10 shooting at roughly 280-300 FPS for an entire year and it worked just fine :)

At the begging of this year I was running my AEG as 200 FPS and still out-ranging most people. :) High quality parts give you high quality results.


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