HICAPPA CO2 Mags??
 

were can I get thises other than Ehobby?

Quite expensive at Pyramid Air

Also remember to tell them to label it as CO2 Magazine or else CBSA will open it up, theres no repercussions for it since its not a real pistol magazine anyway so they'll just tax you.

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/ac...essory_id=2256

redwolf sells them too

i'm yet to try one but im fairly sure it's better than propane.

I'm curious how they fair in cold weather and also if there is any increased wear on internals.

how will the gun handle the increased pressure?

Well coming from my experience with CO2 from paintball though maybe it does not apply to this much

The gun can perform in cold weather, your FPS will be lower but it can still shoot, but if its too cold you will be able to shoot except your gun may frost up. Thats from my paintball gun experience

So in theory CO2 should be able to perform better than propane as I noticed when playing in Defcon that a slight cold temp GBBs don't seem to perform up to par a CO2 mag which was shooting full blast

Me and cheeseman will be the science pigs for these mags I guess lol..

well get them in aout 2 weeks time and test them out and well post some vids up!!!

if anyonw can find be good links from were to buy these, much appreciated

Lowest I could find it online is $29, but I don't know the site: :S Could be sketchy.

http://www.airsoftcraze.com/magazine...e/prod_68.html

these use 12 grams right? anyone wanna share how many rounds it can go thorugh per cartrige?

yah co2 cartriges, i heard they can do 2 mags and a bit.

As long as you have paypal you are fine, I have been screwed over by some sites in the past but with a quick click of the dispute console "Item not received" and escalate the dispute within a few weeks I got my money back.

Provided the seller has no evidence that they sent it to you.

CO2 is very powerful.

Which means, there can be damages to your gun.

Depends what you have in your gun.

The WE Hi-capa is full metal and I am assuming if WE decided to make a WE Co2 magazine designed specifically for the WE then it is best suited for it.

While using on another Hi-capa variant then yes it will damage the gun

CO2 is powerful maybe too powerful for indoor games though since it may shoot over 350 FPS indoor limit

I use one of these in the cold. In the summer it shoots 370-400fps and one game I played at 5'C it shot 280-300fps. WE guns are designed to use these but they also fit in TM which I really don't recommend.

Often the pressure is too much for the hammer spring for the first 2-3 shots and I get around 50 shots out of a 12g cartridge so fire it a couple times in the test fire/hopup setting area before having to rely on it as a sidearm.

I guess me and BORDENSNIPER are going to be your genny pigs. :D
When we get them we'll make sure to test them out at various different conditions and see they perform.

Sounds good, but don't kill any squirrels please :P or chipmunks

With the way the economy's at these days I think Squirrel will be the meal of the day for a few months to come.:rolleyes:

How does the cost of CO2 cartridges compare to that of propane?

I don't know about the statistics of cost differences, but the fact that you don't have to carry around a big dangerous tank of propane compared to CO2 is a little more appealing to me. Add that with the higher velocity of CO2 and I’m sold.

Yeah and as long as you get them in bulk they are probably not too ridiculous in price. I'm really starting to like the CO2 capable pistols, especially for when the weather gets colder.

A friend and I split a couple boxes of 100 12g, I think was around $40 give or take.

Put it this way... even assuming $0.50 per cartridge (though it's closer to $1.00 if you purchase from Wal-Mart, Canadian Tire, etc.) that's about seven cartridges per tank of propane. At two full mags per cartridge, you're getting 14 mags. Now with propane you have the ability to top up your partially spent mags.

The operating costs of using CO2 tend to be higher, but it really comes down to how much you use those mags.

Don't use CO2 mags in a stock TM, as you'll blow the gun apart. A metal upraded TM should work fine, but I personally wouldn't.

As for operating costs, CO2 is far more expensive than propane to operate. Although in cold weather, I can definitely see them being more appealing, as you can still get useable velocities and the gun can still perform.

I've used one in a WE gun. Didn't shoot much higher than a propane mag, probably because of the increased resistance pressure on the valve, and the hammer is meant for the resistance of a propane mag.

I fired my WE using a CO2 mag and clocked in at about 390 fps, compared to the 310-320fps I get out my pistol normally. So yeah, it's a big difference.

FYI: c02 is not much safer if not more dangerous than propane. Considering the pressure difference between the two is about 10 fold.

IIRC: WE makes 2 different versions of the gun, the Propane one isn't supposed to run on CO2 magazines... But this information is pretty cloudy in my memory, there's a chance I could be completely wrong.

definitely let me know, id love to hear about it

Except CO2 isn't flammable.

It doesn't need to be; an explosion is cause by the rapid expansion of gas.

Sure, you could call the propane 'more dangerous' because it could catch fire while exploding if near an open flame, but pressure on the vessel is what's going to be the cause of an accident.

I'd say that calling either "more dangerous" than the other is a little ridiculous, both should be treated with the same cautions, and both are quite stable when doing so.

I'm probably going to eventually get one or two for my WE P14 (same mag) from redwolf through airsoftparts.

Unfortunately, that mag is currently out of stock.

Well crunchmeister's answer pretty much spells it, best to answer if you actually have used a CO2 with a WE Hi-capa or other CO2 guns (Though won't help much) if not then you might just be leading the questioner on a wild goose chase.

http://airsoftcanada.com/showpost.ph...7&postcount=25
http://airsoftcanada.com/showpost.ph...4&postcount=23

As for long term reliability you can only speculate

very excited, getting guns by saturday and the mags..well we still neeed to order them...but reviews of guns will be up asap with videos.!!

I've used a WE Hicappa 4.3 with both propane and CO2.
Velocity: according to my "how hard it sticks to my Crossman gel target" test, the CO2 mag did not result in much of a velocity increase... it was not shooting as hot as the 317 FPS Luger that I also used with the target.
Rounds per cartridge: at room temperature, I was averaging between 85 - 93 shots per 12 gram powerlet.
Cold weather performance: much to my suprise, this really sucked. Of course, at the temp. that I was shooting at ( -3 to - 5 C? Not sure, it was near the end of October) my pellet pistol did not perform much better. I suspect that the GBB aspect of the airsoft pistol caused the problem, as I have read that otheres have had good luck with CO2 pistols in cold temps. (NGBB, I'm guessing). In fact, after about five rounds of rapid fire on one fresh cartridge it died... when I popped the cartridge out of the mag, I heard something rattling around inside it. Turned it upside down... little white pellet stuck in the opening of the cartridge. I watched it sublimate.... dry ice!!

I think these mags would be great for folks who put a lot of rounds thru their pistols in the summer. All one needs carry is spare BB's, and possibly an extra cartridge or two in one's pocket. With two mags, one could fire over 150 rounds without having to change a cartridge!

(As always, individual mags and guns may vary.)

Louis

yes and will rember their is a lot of vairents that make co2 redy guns and non co2 vs of the same gun for instance kjw makes sig co2 redy and m9 redy ones and non co2 vs of the same gun. so rember if using them make shure if its co2 redy and its safte to because all of the guns have diffrently designed blowback chambers and specific parts to lower the incresed wear the parts will endure beacuse the power of c02 is stronger.

uncompany also has them... but Ehobby seems to be the cheapest...

got the guns....got the c02 mags...

All Im gonna say is that the kick is insane compared to green gas.

review of CO2 mag and little cool upgrades to come with picS!!

Great! Glad to hear it, good to see the WE's being put to good use

In other words stay tuned...:D

I have a 50rd hi-capa mag and yeh the pick is ridiculous, I have a WE HIcapa and WE 1911, I swapped the slides and ran propane with it and it feels like a nailgun or something!

does that mean it's good or bad?