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krazie Sj October 13th, 2008 09:49

D-Boy
 
Don't know much about the company or their guns. Any good? Tried doing a little searching, didn't find much. A thread on Arnies said they're either really good or you'll get a lemon. I think I recall another thread on here saying that if we could get them in Canada they wouldn't be so bad. But it's more of a States thing.

ASC. What say you?

Donster October 13th, 2008 10:05

i would stay away from them IMHO. metal bodies are said to contain lead, and i wasn't all that impressed with some of their products. other might say differnetly, but even their CNC stuff i wouldn't trust and not just due to metal composition/quality, but also because we do not know the quality of the blueprints that were put into the CNC machine. and based on other China "CNC" stuff, it is just not up to par with everything made in japan. just my thoughts though. others will probably say otherwise.

Dusti69 October 13th, 2008 10:29

i have a v3 gearbox and some rail covers made by d-boys that seem to be good
but ive heard that their aftermarket products suck yet someone said their aegs are great. some do come full metal or full metal and wood

down here they cost more than jg's do so they have to be at least a little bit above jg's which i think most people regard as the best china clone manufacturer

krazie Sj October 13th, 2008 10:38

Right on. Found a review of the SPR I was looking at. Only down side it really mentioned was a kind of crappy rear stock, no fuse (Which doesn't bother me) and the screws can strip easily (Not a problem because I don't fuck with my guns).

Anyone else had any experiences with these please feel free to gimme the heads up.

Skladfin October 13th, 2008 12:16

I built a custom CQBR from mostly Dboys parts, it turned out quite amazing.

also handled a Dboys M4, it performed quite similarly to just about every other brand M4s

yanhchan October 13th, 2008 17:52

I've disassembled and reassembled Dboys guns over and over, screws stripping is a myth. If you use the wrong sized screw driver head and force it then you'll strip it. If you take your time to choose the right sized head and take your time with threading your screws won't degrade if you take it apart multiple times. And another thing shimming and bushings on my MK12 Mod 0 is still stock and I'm running an M120S thats pulling 390FPS.

The metal body, I'd have to say it beats the metal body I got made by CA since the CA one uses two crappy pins whereas Dboys uses a wide lip at the end.

ProbeJax October 13th, 2008 18:23

Buddy of mine bought a dBoys M4, told me his STAR mags wouldn't fit into the thing. He had to sand the mags down.

Muffin October 13th, 2008 18:31

Dboys receivers are well known for crappy fitments. I had one, never used it, just sold it, and it felt somewhat decent. Like all other china clones the quality can be sketchy.
I've had a few JG's and they have been quite good to me but IMO they don't last as long as other quality models.

krazie Sj October 13th, 2008 19:24

Wicked. It's probably going to be my backup outdoors guns or a loaner for a friend. I've suddenly got an urge to own an armalite after being an HK whore for the better part of 8 years.

So far it sounds like the good far outweigh the bad on these series of rifles.

panda86 October 13th, 2008 20:26

Do a search for reviews on the Dboys bodies nd check out my metal body review

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=65954

Some good feedback in there that covers the quirks that comes with owning a Dboys M4

krazie Sj October 13th, 2008 21:25

Helps a little. The unit I was looking for purchase was fully made, however it's good to know it's monkey metal. No running over it with the truck.

Amos October 13th, 2008 22:25

I wont touch Dboy's stuff with a 30 foot pole.

krazie Sj October 13th, 2008 22:30

Clarification is required.

KYDD October 13th, 2008 22:34

I use the Spr m-16 from d-boys and couldnt be happier
the tales of easy to strip screws is correct and the stock does have a fragile feel, but it has operated flawlessly since I got it and still shoots 400 fps w/.20's

Amos October 13th, 2008 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazie Sj (Post 839403)
Clarification is required.

They're known for terrible tolerances and EXTREMELY sketchy build materials.

Sure you can save maybe 150-200 bucks by buying a China clone.. but once your shitty body breaks, you'll have to shell out ATLEAST another 100 bucks (If you want another POS Dboy's body)

Dboys, JG, Cyma all that doesn't hold a candle to the New Classic Army and G&P Stuff.

Conscript October 13th, 2008 22:39

The D-Boy's line of AK's is extremley solid. I went to a game recently and someone dropped a D-Boy's AK74u off the table about 2 1/2 feet high, nothing happened to the gun, not even a scratch.

What was miraculous about this is that the gun was locked up prior to the fall, and after it was working just fine.

Don't believe me? PM Ancorp.

krazie Sj October 13th, 2008 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 839410)
They're known for terrible tolerances and EXTREMELY sketchy build materials.

Sure you can save maybe 150-200 bucks by buying a China clone.. but once your shitty body breaks, you'll have to shell out ATLEAST another 100 bucks (If you want another POS Dboy's body)

Dboys, JG, Cyma all that doesn't hold a candle to the New Classic Army and G&P Stuff.

Not surprisingly. Like I said I'm after a back up weapon/loaner. I don't expect to be tossing this around like my TM G3SG1 with metal body. I could club a rhinoceros to death with that and still use it to pound in a rail way spike after. However, I'm not looking to spend over $700 for a gun like this. If I had the spare cash, sure done thing. Paying off a $40,000 truck...not so much. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by KYDD (Post 839409)
I use the Spr m-16 from d-boys and couldnt be happier
the tales of easy to strip screws is correct and the stock does have a fragile feel, but it has operated flawlessly since I got it and still shoots 400 fps w/.20's

Yeah, like I said, it seems to be that they're either Tip to the fucking top or a complete lemon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conscript (Post 839416)
The D-Boy's line of AK's is extremley solid. I went to a game recently and someone dropped a D-Boy's AK74u off the table about 2 1/2 feet high, nothing happened to the gun, not even a scratch.

What was miraculous about this is that the gun was locked up prior to the fall, and after it was working just fine.

Don't believe me? PM Ancorp.

I saw the thread about the new AK's they made. Seemed like they were a quality build.

I like a gun that is fixed by a good beating. Pity my computer didn't function the same way.

The SPR is pretty new to their line as well so I'm hoping the same sturdiness will apply.

pusangani October 13th, 2008 23:26

their aks74u is the best gun for the money hands down, hoping to get one soon

Skladfin October 13th, 2008 23:36

I've had experience on CA, G&P, G&G, KWA and Dboys M4s.

The best metal body I say has to go to CA, they have a really good design that holds the hop up unit in place properly(Improves accuracy). Fitment was quite good too.

G&P used chalk paint and It felt weird, and there were gaps between the upper and lower receiver. This is a problem because if you drop the gun in water, the liquid will soak in much faster and with much more volume(And since it's at the back of the receiver, it will go straight to the mechbox). Also, it will wiggle, which causes accuracy problems.

G&G's magnesium receiver, kinda sucked. Felt like plastic and it was thinner than other brands. Everything was okay, just okay, nothing to brag about.

KWA needs major reconstructive surgery if you wanted to use a one piece hop up unit, which is okay if you dont want to. Fitment is pretty good with anything really, and external appearance and quality is identical to CA.

Dboys is probably the second to CA. If I were to build a scratch M4 today, I would probably use Dboys over any other metal bodies(I would choose CA if they had more markings and costed less...). The new version doesn't have a gap between the upper and lower receiver. Fitment with their own Aftermarket gearbox is superb. No filing down the mag well was needed either, everything fit. External feel is identical to CA and KWA. Quite superb imo.

If I were to rank from best to worst...

CA
Dboys
KWA
G&G
G&P

Dusti69 October 14th, 2008 00:29

G&P worst?? i have none of the problems you mentioned with my g&p zombie killer body. everything on it fits right together

jesster202 October 14th, 2008 00:36

i Had the spr model the gun was solid only thing i would recomend dropping in a better stock it is not bad but not the best, and a tightbore and leave her until it stops working i have had tonns of d boys guns their all great its when you get their stand alone recivers it gets sketchy iv had exzactly 27 come though my hands and 2 i couldnt sell because the threading and the tube were that messed outher than that their rails are great but the spr is deffently one of their best of their armlight products.

Shrapnel[Op-For] October 14th, 2008 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by pusangani (Post 839484)
their aks74u is the best gun for the money hands down, hoping to get one soon

I have also heard many good things about the 74su. Theres a good review of it by "editor" on youtube, seems like a very solid gun.

krazie Sj October 14th, 2008 00:38

Awesome. Not only what I wanted to hear, but also from someone who actually owned the SPR. What caused you to sell her if you don't mind my asking>?

jesster202 October 14th, 2008 00:38

by the way king arms metal body have to be the best just though i throw that in their also!!!!

Skladfin October 14th, 2008 00:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusti69 (Post 839521)
G&P worst?? i have none of the problems you mentioned with my g&p zombie killer body. everything on it fits right together

All other metal bodies fit together tightly too.

Amos October 14th, 2008 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skladfin (Post 839488)
I've had experience on CA, G&P, G&G, KWA and Dboys M4s.

The best metal body I say has to go to CA, they have a really good design that holds the hop up unit in place properly(Improves accuracy). Fitment was quite good too.

G&P used chalk paint and It felt weird, and there were gaps between the upper and lower receiver. This is a problem because if you drop the gun in water, the liquid will soak in much faster and with much more volume(And since it's at the back of the receiver, it will go straight to the mechbox). Also, it will wiggle, which causes accuracy problems.

G&G's magnesium receiver, kinda sucked. Felt like plastic and it was thinner than other brands. Everything was okay, just okay, nothing to brag about.

KWA needs major reconstructive surgery if you wanted to use a one piece hop up unit, which is okay if you dont want to. Fitment is pretty good with anything really, and external appearance and quality is identical to CA.

Dboys is probably the second to CA. If I were to build a scratch M4 today, I would probably use Dboys over any other metal bodies(I would choose CA if they had more markings and costed less...). The new version doesn't have a gap between the upper and lower receiver. Fitment with their own Aftermarket gearbox is superb. No filing down the mag well was needed either, everything fit. External feel is identical to CA and KWA. Quite superb imo.

If I were to rank from best to worst...

CA
Dboys
KWA
G&G
G&P

...

How much G&P Have you dealt with?

... I don't think I need to say but I have ALOT of experience with airsoft guns... and G&P Are the best of the best when it comes to AEG's..

Their bodies aren't "Chalk painted" they are anodized instead of painted... G&P is made out of the highest quality aluminum out of any major airsoft gun producer... (Yes, Even the Systema PTW's)

Have you ever seen a Dboy's body that's fractured? It looks like a fuckin' aero bar...

DarkAngel October 15th, 2008 00:34

I Agree with Amos.
Ive been working on countless brands, ESPECIALLY armalite varients.

Id rank it
Guarder
CA
G&P
KWA
G&G
Dboys

My reasoning is. Guarder and CA both anodize their metals. This is why Guarder + CA always have superb Realsteel quality finishes. If you ever handle a CA or a Guarder next to a Dboys or ICS you will see OBVIOUS differences. As for quality, I find Guarder has much more real weight to it compared to CA (Because CA is made of light aluminum) However, Guarder does have some mag fitment issues. King arms and some CA mags dont fit in Guarder Magwells without modification (some filing in the magwell and or mags depending on the mags) However from my experience, Classic Army Receivers have fitted every brand of mag ive tried. TM, CA, KA, G&P, Star, MAG, Magpull, etc. I only rate Guarder higher than CA for looks. Guarder also comes with fully functional furniture, while CA is Non functional (but can be modified to be a full function receiver). However, CA seems to take the cake for functionality.

Now for G&P... What can i say... They are GOOD aftermarket receivers. They dont have the same look, and i think Guarder's Anodizing is MUCH better, but the metal quality is solid, and their QC is pretty good. However, they have GHASTLY fitting problems with King Arms Mags and several others that i have tried. G&P also has a functioning receiver and comes VERY close to CA with looks. However, due to the mag issues, it comes after CA. However though i would never buy a G&P Gun (the plastics of the gun feel REALLY fake) as well as their complete guns just doesnt feel right, I 100% endorse their Accessory Line. Ive had a G&P R500 Taclite (500 Lumen Rechargable Taclite) for 2 years. Dispite the numerous night games ive gone to over the last 2 years, Ive only had to charge it ONCE. It came charged out of the box ready to use, ive dropped it, smacked it, immersed in water, etc and it ALWAYS works. (Only weak spot is the pressure switch which is absolute garbage). Ask Shwag + George, they got first hand experience when it was used on them. Ive also had multiple positive experiences with their Battery Crane Stocks, Lasers, AN/PEQ2's, etc. Though my overall judgement in ranking disagrees with Amos, and yes i do agree that G&P Receivers are better than Systema's. We both are looking at two different perspectives, it depends entirely of course on what your looking for in a receiver.

KWA + G&G are both Taiwaneese Companies and their metal quality is not as good as CA, G&P and Guarder. Now to be fair, i havent had much experience with these brands in terms of AEGs but from what i remember the finish is power coat/painted and dont really give a very realistic finish. I dont have any experience with mag fittings on these receivers.

Last of all, is Dboys. Its GARBAGE... Stay Away. THey have MAJOR fitting issues with magazines and require modifications to fit any major brand of magazine (Besides Dboys). Even the Americans (who buy ALOT more lower end Airsoft guns such as JG/KWA/etc compared to canadians) wont even touch them. Warstore In NY refuses to even stock them, or order them in custom as they have had COUNTLESS issues and since Dboys has NO Warrenties, they just refuse to deal with the product due to more than 1/2 of them being returned. The Metal body is made of pot metal, and has HUNDREDS of air holes inside the metal where you cannot see. Almost No reinforcing qualitys, crap finish. I just cant understand why anyone would waste their money on this crap. Id rather stick with a TM Plastic body than a DBoys peice of shit.

Ronan October 15th, 2008 01:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 839723)
Their bodies aren't "Chalk painted" they are anodized instead of painted... G&P is made out of the highest quality aluminum out of any major airsoft gun producer... (Yes, Even the Systema PTW's)

Have a look at the Prime PTW bodies, those are the BEST you can get atm. In reguards of G&P vs PTW stock bodies... i wouldnl't be surprise if the more expensive G&P bodies were better. But Prime wins the best metal body, if they make regular AEG metal bodies, go for those.

Styrak October 15th, 2008 01:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 840163)
Have a look at the Prime PTW bodies, those are the BEST you can get atm. In reguards of G&P vs PTW stock bodies... i wouldnl't be surprise if the more expensive G&P bodies were better. But Prime wins the best metal body, if they make regular AEG metal bodies, go for those.

They're also ludicrously expensive and CNC'd. Of course they'll be better.

Give your head a shake.

jesster202 October 15th, 2008 02:00

lol am i the only one who thinks king arms is the bomb!!!!

Panek October 15th, 2008 02:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 839392)
I wont touch Dboy's stuff with a 30 foot pole.

+1.

Any more info on the lead in the metal bodies?

panda86 October 15th, 2008 02:42

Tokyo Marui have also been found to use the same materials, some traces of lead in their products. I think I read this on Arnies. It's simple, just don't lick or eat your AEG and you'll be fine. :)

Regardless, while I think Dboys products definitely have issues, they are the most inexpensive to get and might be suitable for people on a budget.

If you can afford better, then get something better.

Ronan October 15th, 2008 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 840170)
They're also ludicrously expensive and CNC'd. Of course they'll be better.

Give your head a shake.

Can't its stuck up your ass mate:D

Styrak October 15th, 2008 03:43

At least it's being used for something.

Dusti69 October 15th, 2008 03:45

id buy a d-boys aeg but never one of their metal bodies for an m type.
id rather spend the extra money for a g&p widow maker metal body for an m type if i ever get another one

Ronan October 15th, 2008 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 840193)
At least it's being used for something.

Your butt?

Ask Nathan i'm sure he can come up with some creative stuff:p

808 October 15th, 2008 13:45

Amos, your experience stems from 2 years playing Airsoft, and advise from you should be taken with that in mind. Yes, I know how long, I was working at XT when you started in the sport.

D-BOYS is not bad. And they are not the best. Each manufacturer has it's lemons, and for the last year or two Classic Army products were pulled from many retailer's shelves due to shoddy design and craftsmanship. Airsoft GI is one such example. They have their act together now (apparently), and are producing good quality stuff.

I have seen, touched, breathed, licked, and spat on more types of guns and manufacturers than I'd ever thought possible, and it really all comes down to luck, and care taken when building a gun.

DBOYS has been good, CA better, G&G good still, same with G&P. Nothing has beaten the reliability and proven track record of Tokyo Marui. Systema products are generally awesome, with some exceptions to shitty aftermarket AEG parts here and there, and King Arms has always been good to me.

Someone has a bad experience with a product once, and they'll forever label it as shit. Hear of a few other bad stories? Must be that they're all bad. Not the case.


Point is, keep an open mind when it comes to Airsoft. Try it out, and if you don't like it - sell it, trade it, use it as firewood. Any problem can be fixed if something breaks, and almost all guns will have something break on them eventually.

Dusti69 October 15th, 2008 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808 (Post 840443)
Someone has a bad experience with a product once, and they'll forever label it as shit. Hear of a few other bad stories? Must be that they're all bad. Not the case.

+1.5

Crunchmeister October 15th, 2008 14:09

I have a DBoys C8 body I bought last winter. No real fitment issues with it at all except I had to sand the mag well a bit. All high cap mags I tried in it worked (TM, CA, DBoys), and plastic G&P midcap mags worked well too, but all metal low and mid caps were too tight. However, once I got that taken care of, everything worked great without any issues. The finish is a bit rougher than that of the real steel, but I think it looks damn close in terms of finish. That being said, if I could have gotten a hold of a Guarder C8 body, I would have paid the extra for that over the JG just for the better quality.

That being said, there are a lot of reports of problematic older DBoys receivers. But from what I've heard of the newer generations models, they fit up well without any mods required.

http://www.societyssorrow.com/_crunc...2/P1000394.jpg

Dusti69 October 15th, 2008 14:20

do you always let your guns laying around on full auto? :D

looks decent anyway

Amos October 15th, 2008 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 840163)
Have a look at the Prime PTW bodies, those are the BEST you can get atm. In reguards of G&P vs PTW stock bodies... i wouldnl't be surprise if the more expensive G&P bodies were better. But Prime wins the best metal body, if they make regular AEG metal bodies, go for those.

I'm not counting the niche market receivers. I'm talking about how things come from the factory.

Of course a dedicated after market metal-body manufacturer wins over the gun manufacturer... How else are they gonna get you to purchase their product?

Harbinger of Darkness October 15th, 2008 15:45

You could always shell out the money for a magpul body. :D

Amos October 15th, 2008 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harbinger of Darkness (Post 840513)
You could always shell out the money for a magpul body. :D

MAGPUL PTS (Airsoft division of the real MAGPUL company) makes EXCELLENT stuff... I hope they start producing AEGs.

Harbinger of Darkness October 15th, 2008 16:18

So do I. I'm very happy with my metal body. Fits like a glove and holds up to abrasion, moisture, shock, me getting mad and throwing it at Gunk... :D


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