Heavy Weight bbs
 

I have been looking everywhere and I can not find 6mm bbs over 0.3g. Does anyone know where I could get a hold of some.

Thanks in advance

0.30g is the most available of the heavy weighted bb's.

However... there is a 0.43g available...
On a local board we are going to do a group order... seems to be no-name brand bb's but we will take a chance...
Link for 0.43g:
http://airsoftoutletnw.net/index.php...hk=1&Itemid=28

http://www.shootercity-airsoft.com/
they have some made by SIIS and under the tab other (no name).

there are bbs that are over the weight of .30g. Straight makes those, but most of them are graphite coated, messing up your hop-up, thus throwing off your accuracy. You can wash off the silver coating of these bbs but its very tedious to do. Furthermore, these bbs are hard to find.

in the meantime, just stick to .30g

I believe 0.34 gram aluminum bbs are available... IIRC 0.88g steel bbs are also available...

Alright thanks for the information guys. Appreciate it.

.34 are most definitely plastic still, as I have used .43's and they are 100% plastic. The .88's might be aluminum.

i have here .878g bbs (6mm solid steel ball bearing )for gas powered guns. hit me up if interested.

pic.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...1/steelbbs.jpg

Its funny that you mention that, I was just taking a look at this today.
Wikipedia is your friend. (unless the creator of the article is stupid)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airsoft_pellets

IIRC you can get the 6mm steel bbs from any transmission shop as they are transmission bearings.... I could be wrong though

Scarecrow on the forums is the man behind BB Bastard. He said he will be creating a .34g product. You can look at his thread on the topic. Just hold out for another 6 months, a year at the most and it should be here.

why do they coat them then? also why do people still ask for them?

sorry to jackathread

I wouldn't want to be hit by metal ball bearings. Why would you play with these unless you are sniper that is very very good at respecting minimum engagement distance accorinding to weight and energy on impact. If your gun is hot enough to propel nearly 1 gram metal bbs, I'm not playing with you :) It's basically an air/pellet gun.

Anything above .30gr is tricky - actually going above .28gr reliably was tricky. The .30gr BB I sell and that anyone else sells is actually not pure ABS plastic - it has additives to bring up the weight.

My problem is the additive we use tops out at .30gr so we have to find another additive that offers greater weight and density options that does not interfere with the molding process or the polishing process. So far thats been very difficult to find. I did test one batch of test .34's sent to me and didn't like them - the surface pitted during the polish process. This is why I suspect the graphite BBs are popular as a heavier BB. They use a colored BB and then add graphite powder to cover up the pitting, and then market it as some kind of BB enhancement, when it fact all it does it gum up your hopup and if you wash the BB, you're again left with pitting.

No easy answers on this one folks - plus there is the ever present volume issue - people are just not buying heavy weight BBs in quantity. This year .20 and .25 are way ahead in sales compared to .28 and .30. Perhaps I've sold 50 bags of .30 product so far - so the incentive to manufacture and carry heavy weight product really isn't there. I've got about 5 years of .30 product in stock based on that sales volume.

P.S. Aside from the obvious danger of shooting ball bearings, ball bearings will ruin the inner barrel by scoring it as its fired. Not recommended.

GOLD

Why not some sort of ceramic? Or perhaps something like very hard durometer polyurethane?
Cheers,
Grant

The gun would need to be extremely powerful to be able to shoot those at a reasonable speed.

B/C anyone
 

Just to pose a question here.
Is the assumption "Heavy Ammo is more Accurate"????
In powder guns B/C (ballistic coefficient) is all important.
Does B/C have any place in A/S language?:D

The material has to be compatible with our current manufacturing process - I'm not up on all the science of it, I just sell the stuff...

I'm assuming some sort of molding process using heat and then polished to remove the mold marks? Probably polyurethane would be compatable except I believe it's a two part substance. The entire question is whether it's any heavier than your current ABS, do you have any idea what the density is?
Thanks,
Grant

No idea. I know that adding plastics of different densities causes some problems in the integrity of the BB as well - weight is only one part of the formula but things like polishability, even distribute of material in the substrate, etc... its a lot more complicated.

.88g are steel.

Aluminum BBs, SOLID aluminum BBs, only ones I've ever seen (and I had a bag years ago) were 0.29g.

Yes. Effective range is increased, to a point (too heavy decreases it) but maximum range (where the land) is reduced. Hard to explain in one or two sentences. 0.30g has pretty much the best B/C out of every weight of airsoft BB out there.

Not to be finniky, but it's the 0.29g BBs that are the best overal in range/speed/acuracy.

But the 0.30g offer very good performance for rifle firing under 550fps.

Hahaha, Nice one pare! Is this the one you use for your tirador?! :D

Minor issue, barely any difference from my testing. Not even an fps difference. It's a 0.01g difference. The only difference between a 0.29g and a 0.30g is literally the make. 0.29g is only made by Maruzen, very perfectly made BBs, used them for two years, and the past year I've been using 0.30g Bastards and am REALLY impressed with them. Even compared them to the SIIS 0.30g BBs and found an increase of about 20fps with the Bastards over SIIS, for the same BB weight, gun set up. What stunned me most was the difference between 0.28g and 0.30g Bastards, there was almost identical velocities measured with the exact same set up across diffferent guns. Heavier weight without velocity loss = AWESOME!!!

for heavier weight bbs, why can you have a very small ball of metal and coat the exterior in the BB plastic? would that not solve the weight issue?

for .878g you need at least 800 psi to hit the target in 50 meters.
the velocity is only 300-400 fps (rough estimate).

if you are familiar with monster airsoft (electric-co2 gun ) he uses this kind of bb.
Lastly a friend of mine using this bb for killing a distractive rodents in his farm.
:D

Sorry, but what IS a tirador? He's said he'll come play with me in Japan with my Tirador... wtf is it?

likely the biggest factor limiting that is properly centering the core and being able to put the shell on cheaply and effectively. If it is off center by even a small fraction of however you want to measure it, then you'll get random spinning and could have very drastic effects on the flight path.

tirador is a spanish word means Slingshot.

Ahh ok. It vaguely makes more sense. Like when converting Japanese to English using an online translator, lol :D Thanks :)

THE CUTTING EDGE
 

Thanks Guys-Stalker/Fox:
Now I know what weight of ammo to start with.:D

This is kind of like golf ball manufacturing, and they will never make a perfect ball until they can make them in space. The reason is gravity.
As the molten plastic cools and hardens, gravity is taking effect and making one side slightly heavier and out of balance.
If you want to see this effect. get a short drink glass and fill it 3/4 full of water, and add 3 or 4 Tablespoons of salt. stir. Get a golfball and put it in the glass, if it doesn't float, put more salt in until it starts becoming bouyant.(floats) When it is floating, get a sharpie marker and put a dot on the very north pole of the floating ball. Now give the ball a spin, and let it go until it comes to a complete rest again. And you will see that the dot will return to the N.pole again. If it doesn't,(not likely but possible. 3/12 ) put that ball away for your next game of golf.;) The light side is at the north pole.
I assume that it would create the same kind of problem in BB manufacturing. We have to deal with it.