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Aquamarine August 4th, 2008 23:08

Airsoft In The Newspaper... Again
 
Sadly the article is not well written and neglects to mention anything about airsoft. The fool writing it, Mark Cardwell of Canwest News, has decided that our 'bullets' and guns have only been in Canada for a few years.

Sorry buddy, but my first airsoft gun ever was given to me by my brother when I was 12, and I'm sure as fuck not 15 (although sometimes I wonder...)

http://www.pozland.com/picpost/Article1.jpg
http://www.pozland.com/picpost/Article2.jpg

patcou August 4th, 2008 23:17

I was reading the article and i didn't search for my question. Do you guys (pro's) ever asked a journalist to come at one of your games? Maybe it would prove something or at least he would write good things about it.

Dracheous August 4th, 2008 23:20

"Said the official with Buyairsoft.ca, who asked not to be identified."

That worked out well for a request. And when did DE start chambering the .44magnum's? I only recall factory .357 and .50 caliber chambers, oh well.


EDIT: patcou there have been people who have invited the media to events and because of such actions there are many who refuse to attend such events or any others hosted by said people because typically its sprung on the airsofters that show up as a "surprise". The media tends to twist and turn things how they want it to appear, the article above is only a half ass twist of how HORRID airsoft can appear to your average everyday soccer mom. As long as there is a fear of real guns in this country ((how that happened I've no idea... wait yes I do, MEDIA)), there will be a fear of toys that look like fire-arms. Good news is heart warming, Bad news are cash cows, No news is bankruptcy.

On that note there are some very well documented news broadcastings that are still avail. in the wide world interwebs; however they are mostly from countries that have adopted the sport to be safe and fun, Canada as a whole doesn't accept such a view as yet.

grimreefer August 4th, 2008 23:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by patcou (Post 786101)
I was reading the article and i didn't search for my question. Do you guys (pro's) ever asked a journalist to come at one of your games? Maybe it would prove something or at least he would write good things about it.

I've often wondered what effect a news story like this one would have on airsoft in Canada.

patcou August 4th, 2008 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 786126)
I've often wondered what effect a news story like this one would have on airsoft in Canada.

Maybe it would show organized adults instead of kids in backyards, makes me mad, gonna stop, plenty of LETS FIGHT AGAINST THE SYSTEM threads ;)

Skruface August 4th, 2008 23:57

We had a great article written 2 last summer by a local newspaper that came out and played for a day with some of the local Wolfpack players and others. Damned if I can find a link to it though.

LeetG August 5th, 2008 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 786126)
I've often wondered what effect a news story like this one would have on airsoft in Canada.

Yeah, same here.

GZA August 5th, 2008 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 786126)
I've often wondered what effect a news story like this one would have on airsoft in Canada.

Ahem!

YouTube - Global National - Airsoft in Toronto at TTAC3

...Not a whole hell of alot it seems.

Skladfin August 5th, 2008 00:05

haha I love how much bad things the writer can say about airsoft. Regular paintball markers fires at almost 10times the kinetic energy of any airsoft guns.

he might as well call paintball markers nuclear weapon at this rate

krazie Sj August 5th, 2008 00:19

Fun and games until someone loses an eye. And yet only 6 limb and neck injuries related to airsoft in the past 2-3 years.

Way to go fucktard. (The Author, if you can call someone who flouts such superficial, nonsensical fear mongering bullshit as something as respectable as an author.)

Jer-Bear August 5th, 2008 00:20

As far as I'm concerned - even though I do have friends who are journalists - the news journalists of today only have one thing on their minds:

VIEWERSHIP

Things said can be misquoted, things overheard can be included without checking up. Invite one to a game and they may take what they see out of context. Fact is you may have the best intentions in mind but all it takes is just one journalist with an agenda to seriously screw things up. Unless a journalist is involved in airsoft and can convince their editor about the direction they're going to take with the article.

Ronan August 5th, 2008 00:52

The 'author' wins idiot of the month prize.

McKay August 5th, 2008 01:06

I think an online version of this was posted a while ago on here as it looks very familiar.

arman August 5th, 2008 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by grimreefer (Post 786126)
I've often wondered what effect a news story like this one would have on airsoft in Canada.

thats the video that started it all for me...

Rukus August 5th, 2008 01:32

Wow, at least get your facts straight and know the difference between airsoft and softair. That article is stupid, but I liked the video I think I've seen it before.

Skladfin August 5th, 2008 01:50

is there a way to contact the author?

pamparius August 5th, 2008 01:55

send em a feedback letter cc'd to the author....

cbcsteve August 5th, 2008 02:33

I was wondering who wrote the story for Global? I was surprise on their positive take on airsoft while this article takes a whole different turn. Will that person at Global write anymore about the merits of Airsoft and how responsible players play? Or was that a one time show?

Maverick0 August 5th, 2008 09:39

Yeah, I'm pretty sure this article was posted a few weeks back from another paper. IIRC, the writer is a freelance journalist who writes whatever he needs to in order to get published, be it ill-researched or simply sensationalized.

paranoid987 August 5th, 2008 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skruface (Post 786133)
We had a great article written 2 last summer by a local newspaper that came out and played for a day with some of the local Wolfpack players and others. Damned if I can find a link to it though.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sub...-4658709c.html

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sub...-4658772c.html

She did mess somethings up, but overall it was alright.

TokyoSeven August 5th, 2008 10:04

Aqua, we are going to the star pheonix this week. Bring some some rope, a honey ham, some pipe tobaco and a see if you can track down that missing python that was stolen from the zoo.

Styrak August 5th, 2008 10:38

Yeah I saw this in our paper as well. Fucking dumbass doesn't know that isn't actual airsoft.

He also complains that "people are actually SHOOTING each other with these things!".

Well no kidding fucktard, that's the point of our sport.

Qlong August 5th, 2008 10:39

That kid with the springer looks retarded.

Maverick0 August 5th, 2008 10:42

I found it especially funny that he first says something about "large plastic BBs" and then goes to say that they are smaller than paintballs... This guy's head must be elsewhere than on his shoulders...

Unless I'm not remembering right, paintball is 17mm and airsoft is 6mm... he says something about it being half the size of a paint ball, but I think he fails at math also... closer to 1/3, but now I'm just being anal lol

Aquamarine August 5th, 2008 11:04

Well feel free to contact the original paper that it was written in and complain. I'll be sending in a letter to the local paper. T7, Styrak, I suggest you boys consider doing the same.

"Large BB Bullets" .... I smiled when I read that.

808 August 5th, 2008 14:44

We could do one better, and re-write his entire article with facts. As if we were proof-reading it for him.

Submit the "corrections" to the Gazette, and see if a retraction gets published.


Hmmm... sounds like a project I can get behind.

Gunk August 5th, 2008 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 786320)
Aqua, we are going to the star pheonix this week. Bring some some rope, a honey ham, some pipe tobaco and a see if you can track down that missing python that was stolen from the zoo.

Screw BC... I'm moving to Saskat... shit... I forgot how to spell the rest... that place where T7 and Aqua get into all kinds of shennanigans.

arman August 5th, 2008 15:02

quote "airsoft manufacturs most of them are in the u.s."


HAHA ok....

infernal August 5th, 2008 19:22

the sky is falling... :)

Shirley August 5th, 2008 19:36

Hmph, you can tell this author was about to get fired because he had nothing to write, so he took a random type of sport and called it dangerous.

Auklin August 5th, 2008 19:59

You wonder why all you hear about in the news is airsoft injuries and no paintball injuries :(


Heres another article in the news paper...

Twelve-year-old Luke Pineda is at war with his 10-year-old brother, Cole, but this is no typical squabble between brothers. These boys are armed, and Luke has Cole in his sights.

The younger brother yelps when a plastic BB pings him in the back. Such are the consequences of an airsoft conflict, so named for the popular spring-loaded weapons the boys wield.

Luke is teamed with friend and neighbor Cody Johnson, 12. The Gilbert boys are set up on opposite sides of the street in makeshift forts of trash bins and plywood. Soon the pellets will fly on this otherwise quiet and hot summer day.

Airsoft guns are this generation's Red Ryder BB guns - except they're a whole lot cooler, says John Pehrson, manager of the Command Post in Phoenix, which carries paintball and airsoft guns and supplies. Last holiday season, airsoft guns ranked among the most searched for items online in the toys category, along with Legos and Barbies, according to the Hitwise Index chart in New York.

The weapons, available as handguns or rifles, automatic or semiautomatic, fire 6mm round, plastic pellets, instead of the small, metal spheres in traditional BB guns.

Airsoft guns have been around for about 30 years but never achieved the same popularity as paintball, a game in which players fire paint-filled pellets, leaving a splat of color when they hit their mark.

But in the past few years, airsoft has gained popularity, retailers say, as manufacturers have begun modeling the weapons after actual pistols and rifles, drawing military hobbyists and gun enthusiasts alike (a resemblance that alarms some in law enforcement).

Also, ammunition is inexpensive - about $6 for 2,000 shots.

It was only a matter of time before kids discovered airsoft, Pehrson says. They want to be soldiers after experiencing such popular video games as Call of Duty and Medal of Honor.

In response, shops once selling only paintball guns and supplies have bumped up their inventories to include airsoft guns and supplies. And moms like Brenda Pineda are giving in and letting their kids get the guns, even though she swore she would never, ever let them play with weapons. "It's what boys do," Pineda says, resignedly. "I'm all right with it as long as they're being safe."

Pineda enforces strict rules. The boys must wear safety goggles whenever guns are present, even if the conflict is over. In addition, they must aim below the shoulders and call a cease-fire if a pedestrian or car comes near them.

At least they're not sitting in front of the TV, Pineda says: "They're out being active."


Not just for kids

As with many children who tuck airsoft guns in their waistbands, the Pineda boys and their friends enjoy the firearms because they look and handle like real guns, even though the more inexpensive models - the ones most marketed to younger players - are made of transparent plastic. All airsoft guns have bright orange tips to distinguish them from the real thing, as required by law.

Prices range from $30 to as much as $1,000, depending on the make, model and type. Airsoft guns come in three types: spring-operated, battery-operated and compressed-gas-propelled.

The plastic pellets the Pinedas and their friends fire can fly as far as 60 feet, allowing Cole to wing Cody from across the street. He can't get that kind of precision with a Nerf gun. "Dude, that was good!" Cody says. "Your accuracy was dead-on!"

It's not just kids running around shooting at each other. The boys' dads play, too. And people of all ages, though mostly men, strap on goggles and padded clothing, and play in paintball arenas or out in the desert. There also are airsoft-player clubs, including the Tucson East Airsoft Club.

"It's a good physical sport. You get a lot of exercise, running around and dodging fire," says 22-year-old Tyler McGinnis of Tucson. "It's fun to roll around in the dirt and try to sneak up on people."

He has been playing for three years, after a friend discovered airsoft weapons at a gun show. The longer he and his friends have played, the more expensive and the fancier their weapons have become. He owns a Tokyo Marui Steyr AUG that fires BBs at 400 feet per second and costs about $400.

"They're actually full-scale models of real weapons," McGinnis says, which is why he plays airsoft instead of paintball. "You can make them pretty high-powered, but there is a lot of responsibility that comes with that. You have to play safe."

Specialty stores limit sales to those age 18 and older, though parents can buy them for their kids.

The Consumer Product Safety Commission recommends that kids should be age 16 or older to play with BB and airsoft guns. Last year, about 20,000 people, including 11,500 children, sought treatment in emergency rooms nationwide due to BB- and airsoft-gun injuries.

But Pehrson, of the Command Post, says airsoft guns are safer than traditional BB guns. Airsoft's larger plastic pellets won't embed in the skin like the .177-caliber metal BBs could.

"The worst you'll get is a little pockmark," Pehrson says.

And most airsoft guns, especially those popular with kids, shoot at a slower velocity, about 100 to 300 feet per second, compared with the old BB guns, which had cruising speeds of more than 400 feet per second. Still, Pehrson says, "they could put an eye out."

Thus, Pineda's rules about always wearing goggles and not aiming at people's heads.

The boys say it doesn't hurt to get shot. Cody adds, "It stings for about 10 seconds."

There are higher-velocity guns, but the boys aren't interested in those; they just want to have fun, not get hurt.


Building battlefields

With more people buying airsoft guns, there's a need for places to play. Cowtown Paintball, near Lake Pleasant, and 23bps in Avondale allow airsoft enthusiasts to play.

Jonathan Logan, manager of Arizona Paintball Depot, says construction has started on what will be the Fort Adobe Paintball Complex, a 154-acre facility for paintball and airsoft play at 43rd Avenue and Pinnacle Peak Road. Scheduled for completion in September, it will feature foxholes, concrete ramps and buildings.

The Pineda boys and their friends confine play to their yards. Cole pulls on a helmet with a clear face guard, and the other boys put on safety goggles.

"What are the teams, guys?" Cody asks. They flip a coin.

Cole pulls out a blue recycling bin to hide behind. He pulls a piece of plywood across the front of both.

Across the street, Cody and Luke set up a huge cardboard box. The battle begins. Hiding behind a parked car, Luke pings his brother as he runs by. Luke shouts, "Cole just got destroyed!"

Thirty minutes later, one of the boys calls "T!" for timeout. Brenda Pineda brings out a jug of cold water and plastic cups. Resting in the shade, the boys are like war veterans, telling of battles where one boy hid in a tree and the time Cody fought his way out of an ambush.

Cole downs his water and gets to his feet, pulling his helmet back on, ready for more: "This is so much fun. Let's go!"




I think that the dumbshit mother shouldn't even let the kids play with the guns period, let alone play with them on the street :(

Aquamarine August 5th, 2008 20:33

Aucklin: please cite your source and either supply a link to the online version of the article, or scan it in, otherwise it's nothing more than hearsay :)

Porkchop August 5th, 2008 22:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 786096)
Airsoft Article

This article first appeared in the Montreal Gazette on Saturday July,12 in the Extra section. That should show you how important this matter is to the media. It appeared as a space filler.

Tech August 6th, 2008 01:09

"All airsoft guns have bright orange tips to distinguish them from the real thing, as required by law."- This article isn't all that bad but it really does need to get its facts right in canada the red tips are not required.

Jer-Bear August 6th, 2008 01:48

One thing to note though - at least all the players in the picture have some form of eye protection.

Nik12 August 6th, 2008 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech (Post 787021)
"All airsoft guns have bright orange tips to distinguish them from the real thing, as required by law."- This article isn't all that bad but it really does need to get its facts right in canada the red tips are not required.

Except the article is clearly written in the states, where orange tips are required.

Styrak August 6th, 2008 10:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nik12 (Post 787106)
Except the article is clearly written in the states, where orange tips are required.

WTF? It's talking about Quebec. And it's a guy from CANWest News Service.

TokyoSeven August 6th, 2008 10:25

The first news report is Canadian, the one that was copy and pasted perhaps is american? Who knows.

Nik12 August 6th, 2008 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 787144)
WTF? It's talking about Quebec. And it's a guy from CANWest News Service.

Ok, let me put this together simply for you:

The post I quoted:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech (Post 787021)
"All airsoft guns have bright orange tips to distinguish them from the real thing, as required by law."- This article isn't all that bad but it really does need to get its facts right in canada the red tips are not required.

The quote from the post I quoted:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Auklin (Post 786743)
All airsoft guns have bright orange tips to distinguish them from the real thing, as required by law.

Which is an excerpt from the copy/paste article Auklin posted. Which was clearly written in the US. Look at the quoted prices of airsoft guns or the reference to American Cities/States.

kalnaren August 6th, 2008 10:41

The article Auklin posted is from the US. It's quite clear just by reading it.

TokyoSeven August 6th, 2008 10:46

And the mystery of the day is solved. Who wants some toast? 3 kinds of jam!

CDN_Stalker August 6th, 2008 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracheous (Post 786103)
And when did DE start chambering the .44magnum's? I only recall factory .357 and .50 caliber chambers, oh well.

Same time they were chambering them for .357, is one of two original options. .50cal DE came out a number of years later.


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