are airsoft grenades safe?
 

My son plays airsoft. He is wanting to buy the mad bull RG108 grenade to play with. I didnt see a problem with it until he said it runs off of propane. Is it safe for a 14 year old to play with an airsoft grenade that runs off of propane?

It has proven rather safe. Im sure other people on this board will agree. Your son being 14 they will not so much approve of. This sport tends to be 18+ in canada, the US is much more forgiving about this.

you have to be 18 in the us to buy airsoft supplies but he and a group of friends got into it. If he fills it up and doesnt carry the propane around with him, is there any way that the grenade will blow up or do anything unsafe?

Anything that expels a projectile will always be dangerous. As with any airsoft product you must use appropriate precautions.

The propane is not used as a combustible propellant; it is stored under pressure inside the grenade and is used to project the BBs strictly through gas pressure (approx. 125 psi) when the valve is opened by firing the grenade launcher.

I hope nobody else heard your son is 14. hattrick I love your signature.

if the gas is under pressure than why cant you just use presurized air

Hmm, I'm glad that we have strict rules about minors playing airsoft... I'm shocked that no one has told him to buy his son a paintball gun instead, haha.

pressurized air usually means means there will be moisture, which is no good for any device internals.

why did you put this on here?

I thought you may want to see the grenade he may be wanting to purchase.

he has a paintball gun. but it is so expensive to play. it is much cheaper to play airsoft

Liquified propane exerts a pressure of ~125 psi as it wants to evaporate to a gas. By transferring liquid propane to an airsoft grenade you are maintaining this convenient high-pressure system.

Pressurizing air requires a compressor and the air remains in a gaseous state. You would require complicated and expensive equipment and a larger gas reservoir to achieve the same results as a liquified gas.

rexdlu, does that look like a Madbull RG108 grenade as the poster stated in his first post? :rolleyes:

no he wants to buy the grenade that goes on the end of your barrel and you shoot once and it goes off

so should i allow him to buy this grenade or is it too dangerous to use?

ohhhh the grenade launchers... m203? YouTube - m203 airsoft launcher

Personally I'd say have him stick to paintball for a few more years despite the cost difference. I really wish there was an age limit here in the US.

no. the mad bull RG108. I dont want him to spent over $150 on a grenade and a launcher

You're his father, you tell us whether you think your own son is mature enough with something like that. We really have no idea. ;)

This forum will say NO because of his age, but overlooking his age, I think he's a big enough boy to handle the "dangerous" issue of the launcher, is it safe? to an extent. should you allow it? your choice.

Yeah, it's safe to use or else they wouldn't sell it. However, as said before, we don't condone giving advice to minors OR parents wanting to buy for their children.

No. It is very unsafe. That's why it's on the market! Damn Taiwanese are trying to take over the world by slowly killing us one by one with cool products that blow up in our faces when we least expect it. Best stick with paintball.

+1
We don't want him to grow up to be like Deraj/Jarek4 now do we?

Oh man... that was fun.

I miss that guy.

+1 to you making up your own mind. You're a father, the guy in charge. You know your son better than most, and better than us for sure.

It's a toy that fires BBs out... do you think it is safe for your son and his friends, knowing what you know about them?

if you dont like the idea of propane theres grenades that use CO2 the only problem is there only for the launchers (as far as i know) and youll have to by an adaptor so its at least 150 dollars more expensive than the other one (in canada thats closer to 500)

That's a lie! I'm pretty sure MadMax is not Taiwanese and I saw someone survive nading himself in the face last weekend. I almost died laughing, though.

In the face?? if you're serious then damn I wanna see the aftermath.

has there ever been any insidents where one has blown up or set on fire or anything?

I don't think so.

I have seen guys use these first hand. Make sure he has goggles on, stay with him when he first uses it. If he is stupid, take it away.

I was 15 when I had my first airsoft gun...I turned out fine.

You gotta remember that propane is used in this case as a pressurized gas, not a flamable gas. Unless your son puts a lighter next to the valve, there shouldn't be an issue. Almost all of our pistols run off of propane and as far as I know, no one has blown their hand off.

Only if mistreated horrendously, ie; hitting it with a hammer when it's full of propane, letting it rust... dumb things like that. Those greandes are designed to be safe or else we'd never use them AND manufacturers wouldn't be able to sell them legally.

In short, they are safe but we do not condone your decision to buy your son airsoft equipment, it is illegal for minors to own airsoft guns. Your son is 14, thus making him a minor, sorry to ruin the fun but it's the law.

It's not illegal for minors to own airsoft guns in the US, which is what I bet we're dealing with.

BTW, I heard some kid in Latveria blew his friend's fingers off last year with a propane grenade. Airsoft is now banned there.

that's what we DON'T need

Airsoft is legal for minors to own in the US?! Sweet something of somewhere, I am sooo glad we have our stringent laws. I left paintball BECAUSE of minors (and the lack of a mil-sim environment)...

As for the grenade, he must have done something wrong.

Yeah... make sure he doesn't pull the pin, drop it by accident, then try to pick it up and throw it...

Without goggles and a mask anyway...

Although he would learn something...

What pin? you guys do realize he's talking about a rifle grenade right? Same shit as a 203.

Seems safer than Carl's grenade to me.

http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload...RG108-BK-L.jpg

or freeze his skin off while trying to fill it...

The bottom line is minors shouldn't use these things. I'm not saying your son is irresponsible but like it has already been stated, misusing anything airsoft CAN be dangerous. After all we are shooting each other with life like weapons.

Oh... well then.

That's actually pretty cool looking, never seen something like that.

i cant think of any way that could hurt him unless he puts it to his chin lol

what do you see as "safe?

many people have different opinions of something being safe or not

as for him owning airsoft wheter he lives in this country or not i dont support minors owning anything airsoft related thats just my opinion though

decide what you can trust him with then decide if he can have a grenade

cheers

Final word - yes they are safe, when used properly

It was good of you to look for input among the community (despite not being local) i hope our words have helped you.

play safe / have fun

-alex

It's not illegal for minors to own airsoft in Canada either. Provincial laws say that you have to be 18 to buy one, but nothing about being 18 to own one.

If you're in Canada, you won't get a grenade launcher for under $200, and that's more than likely used. And you won't get any rounds with that either. Those are rather expensive. You can get them cheap in the US or Asia, but they're prohibited items and you can't import them. If you try to order one from abroad, it will get seized by customs. If you try to import one personally from the US and bring it across, it will get confiscated when you declare it. If you don't declare it, you're smuggling, and if you get caught, I hope you enjoy body cavity searches.

Did I say it was illegal? And to be accurate, Ontario provincially law restricts sale by business to people 18 and over.

Heh heh, when I first found out about airsoft guns a few years back, someone had told me that it's illegal for a minor to own an airsoft gun in the US and Canada, so I learned something new today, yay! If that is the case though, why is it that one ASC member in Toronto (I think) has AEG's and plays in games (from what I've read); I believe his name is Mr.Hitman.

The grenade this guy wants is an old fashioned grenade mounted to an adapter on the muzzle; no need for a launcher.

Mr. Hitman does not play with us, he is still underage. Having guns is not the same thing as being a playing member of the community. While it is not illegal for minors to possess airsoft guns, the majority of the community still does not consider it a good idea for minors to own airsoft guns and will not play with most minors.

Yup. The 18+ rule is a rule that's imposed by the community, not by law. Minors just can't buy an air gun or airsoft gun. Nothing illegal about them owning or using them.

Look up some of the older threads by Mr. Hitman and you'll get an idea of the majority of this community's opinion of him.

We do not support minors owning airsoft guns. Period.

And that's why I like our rules! I checked into some of the posts and I see that he uses a loophole to play games; playing said games with his dad. Seems like he's not very liked on ASC...

Word to the wise, do not turn this into a Mr. Hitman bash-fest, the mods do not look kindly upon that. Being a minor that owns airsoft is not against ASC and he's been behaving himself.

Being a stupid minor with airsoft, now that's something else completely.

Being a stupid anybody with airsoft is generally ill advised.

Haha, that is very true, but no; I'm not trying to bash Mr.Hitman, he hasn't insulted me personally so I will not insult him, it's only fair.

You must remember Hattrick and gigaknight. I personally have no children, but my friend's son is 14, and he is more mature then both of us combined. I cant bring him to any of these events, but he is as mature as a 30 year old. He (unfortunatly) can't get his age verified because he is young. But he should have access to all the good materials because (I believe) he has proven himself mature enough.

I'm 15 and own an airsoft gun... whats wrong with that???

Hell even the manuals and boxes that come with the guns say 18+

I know this thread has been necroed, but I feel I need to say this.

It is not that fact that he is extremely mature that makes the difference. (if he is so mature he should understand our reasons for imposing this rule and abide by it.. Like I did for 4 years) Because he is not 18 he can not be LEGALLY responsible for his actions and he cannot legally sign a waiver(if there is one) at the field he wishes to play at.

And we're all very proud of you. Go play with your 15 year old friends. You necroposted to start an argument?