CYMA AKS-74U
 

Holy shit.

Ho-leee shit.

It's been a long time since I've written a review, but after getting this rifle, I feel it honestly deserves one.

Haven't taken any pictures yet, expect them soon. Here's the one from the sale thread I bought it from, NIB. The gun came with a 8.4v 1100mAh battery, a cleaning rod and a foreign charger.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1203/hpim6249oq3.jpg

Anyways, I didn't really have high expectations for this gun (CYMA and all, $400 NIB, et cetera- too good to be true if it's a good gun, no?), but I was VERY pleasantly surprised.

Taking it out of the box was a treat, it certainly did NOT feel like standard pot-metal, at all. The weapon was pretty hefty, it felt like it could take a beating with no qualms at all.

The wood grips are fantastic- while they chipped with some pretty heavy use/being thrown around (I don't exactly store my rifles like I should, nor transport them in very professional cases), a few chips have been taken off- so a re-staining may be in order.

General feel and aesthetics are top-par- the flip-sights are cleverly designed, though they seem identical and quite pointless to have two different settings (one labelled 4-5, the second having a small 'U' under it. I've since coloured those in with white crayon, along with the fire selector markings).

The weapon itself can take a beating, being swung around, dropped, etc- when I fold the stock I treat it a bit violently, giving it a smack that either sends it flying home to folded, or back with a satisfying 'ching'. Unfortunately, the stock wobbles top-to-bottom a bit, not really sure how to remedy this.

There's a genuine AK side-'rail' for mounting of Russian optics, if you feel so inclined. I bought a 20mm rail that clips onto this, for the mounting of a red dot sight in the near future.

Unfortunately, the front sight seemed a bit crooked to the right, I'm not sure how to remedy this at all. I started mostly barrel-aiming with it thanks to this, as the sights were near useless for me.

Performance-

While I've gamed it twice in smaller, non-official settings, I'm simply blown away.

Pitted up on a one-versus three (I was the odd one out, and was against a fellow with a TM AK, a TM P90, a TM VSR Gspec and a TM FAMAS as a spare on their hill), and the outcome truly surprised me.

This gun had the effective range of the VSR- on semi auto only, I was able to put suppressive fire on all three of them and quite literally walk towards them in complete open, having three panicked players blind-firing wildly. The gun sounds intimidating as hell, with a loud 'thwap' every shot, and it shoots pretty far (other reviews and players chrono the gun at 380 (hence my shooting semi-only), meaning it's definitely not a good idea to use indoors). Arnies suggests that the new CYMA guns come with pre-installed tightbores, which would also probably add to this. Another review described the accuracy as abysmal- I digress, but they were probably referring to the sights, or had an older model. This gun's definitely bang-on accurate for me.

The rate of fire is a bit low, I REALLY need a 9.6v or higher stick battery. The design of the AKS-74U allows it so you can have up to a 12v stick battery in it, as the battery extends all the way into the hollow handguard.

Haven't taken a peek at the internals, yet.

Mods planned- VFC AK tactical foregrip, rail, reflex red dot sight, rubber buttpad for folding stock, serial number engravings

Pictures will be added ASAP.

Pros-
High velocity, insane effective range
Amazing external quality
Wood grips, metal body, low price
Accurate as hell

Cons-
Crooked front sight (I keep having to push it to the left, I tightened a screw and think it may've been fixed)
Wood chips slightly with heavy use
ROF is a bit sad (probably not for most, but for someone used to a 9.6v in my AUG)

Overall rating- 9/10. Having played with a LOT of different guns and owning 2 Maruis (one stock FAMAS, one heavily upgraded AUG), I can say this is probably one of the best I've used, period. Will probably need a bit of internal reinforcements to keep up with the spring, so one of Tirador's piston heads will be in order, along with some other little bits to preserve longevity.

thanks for the nice review

Nice review
 

Very good review, I agree most of ur review. I jut got into the sport just a few week and I got one of this AKS-74U exactly same as you and I still haven't known how it funciton so much, also I don't know how to complain about it at all cos I never use airsoft before. Anyway, Good review. Keep it up. I will try to do a review like u too, My next gun is coming this week G&P M4A1 with granade luncher and full upgrade with internal and external part.

I just got an Kalash AK74MN and it's a mother fucking beast, and that's all I can say. The newer China AKs are awesome.

Bob - I'm interested in infos about mags.

Wobble?

What feeds and fits well?/doesn't?

It'd be nice to see an ongoing review as time goes by and you acquire mags of different brands.




PS: I know they should all fit...

I've got 2x G&P Bakelite mags on the way, so I can answer your question when they arrive.
So far, I've put the stock CYMA mag through it, and it works flawlessly- also, I bought two metal standard TM AK mags and they both work great. One had misfeeding problems at the beginning (due to the mag being old), but it randomly stopped after firing two mags through it. One can only assume all TM mags will feed flawlessly, now. No wobble, all the mags I've tried fit perfectly and snugly.

Perfect. I actually wanted to hear about the G&P mids specifically.

For $15 these STAR lows caught my attention too...

http://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-AK74-Airsof...742.m153.l1262

Holy fuck, $15 70-rders? I want some.

May get a few, I should be able to give you a report on whether the G&Ps feed in the next few days. I'll snap some pictures after work, too.

PBS5 silencer in the works, so's a VFC tactical handguard (if anyone knows where to get those).

Is the front end TM compatible?

What's the hopup system like? Is the barrel standard?

It's all TM compatible as far as I know

Hopup system is completely TM compatible.

Barrel is tightbore, I think 6.03 or 6.04, according to Arnies.

Not sure about the front end.

I own most of the cyma Aks out there and resale too The Cm035 is a great product and perfomce very well (+35m dead on target). But the Cm036 AKM now that Ak is really good , for the price.This aeg is the best I have found out of the Chinese Clones. Only real thing that needs to be changed is the spring and degrade it down. There is one Cyma AEG which is very under valued by players it is the Cyma CM031b out the box it shoot 380fps and is dead accurate, all you have to do is slap in a 9.6 batt. I have ordered the some new CM031d and Cm042s for resale it should be here in the next few week via boat and from waht i hear they just as good. It seems Cyma has improve in leaps and bounds even the Cm028 is now a a version3 and shoots at 350fps.

Yeah... and this all explains why the Kraken I have shoots insanely accurately. The newest Krakens are the newest CYMA CM.028s... presumably as they filter through whatever channels they take to get there, and all the oldest stock gets depleted, even the Krakens will improve. The brass barrel MAY be a tightbore, and the hopup is certainly at a gen 3.5. The internals may be beefier to match too. The mag has fed thousands of rounds flawlessly too, so none of the old mag quality issues seem to exist for the newer models. All this is good news...

However, having just held and shot my friend's new KWA M4A1 with only a small type battery, I can only guess how long it will be before these monsters sweep the airsoft scene in Canada. Think Dillon Aero minigun ROF..... with Honda Civic reliability.

This year is when the Chinese have start to up the overall product in quolty, performance and price, the main stream manufactures like CA TM ,G&G are all worried they are loosing ground thats Y they are all bring out cheaper products to compete against the Chinese products, it can only be good for us players and suppliers ,The same thing happened in Paintball , in the beginning Chinese products were bad , now 80% of all product are made and they are of very high standard, brands like Dye , Planet etc ........ So what will the main stream players do to stay ahead head of the pack and how long will it be before the Chinese copy there products......

Got a rail on it. It looks rape.
Pictures in a minute.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...F/DSCN0828.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...F/DSCN0826.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...F/DSCN0827.jpg

Needs an unobtrusive RDS, darker wood foregrips.

in b4 'it's not 5.56, it's not 7.62, that rail's ugly'.

that is now a nice config, it may not be everybodies tast , I giong to do some bad things to people out there :D what make of Suppersor is that?

hmm i had thought that cyma aeg's were junk comparable to be's
you guys think this cyma ak is any good?
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-AEG-AK47-CM0...QQcmdZViewItem
how does it compare to the kraken ak? i got my kraken and was quite impressed with it but after a while it didnt seem as powerful anymore

Hahahha, it's a Gemtech Halo.

Replace the Oring, or entire piston head on your Kraken, you'll notice a huge improvement.


Bob, There's quite a few things I need to show you... :) I can turn this east/west bastard of yours into a pile of pure pants creaming sex.

Oh, really?
:D

I'm quite interested in hearing this.

i may consider that. is it a very difficult process? or is it just a bit of part swapping?
this is the part id need right?
http://www.evike.com/images/ebay/sp006-lg.gif
it says its for TM since krakens are TM compatible

If you're unable to open the mechbox yourself I'd get a guntech to do it.

Yes, that part would work just fine, But take note, the kraken piston head requires a little bit of "destructive" work to get it off the piston.

On the ones I've worked on I just dremel off the original piston head (it's a POS anyways) and install the new one.

Instead of a G&P piston head, I'd suggest a modify or Systema... You get more bang for your buck with those brands. Oh. Stay far away from Area 1000 anything.

do they sell those O rings by themselves? that sounds easier to replace

Yes.. tonnes of places sell Orings...

Just the right size is VERY difficult.

(Keep in mind, to replace the Oring, you need to disassemble everything anyways, while you're at it you may aswell replace the piston head)

Unless some one you know has upgraded their piston and everything and has a full TM stock piston (don't bother with stock CA pistons, many of them have the same problem as the cyma 028 pistons) upgrading piston head will be your best course of action.

so then in that case it sounds like i should get this rather than the piston head itself
http://www.ehobbyasia.com/ebayphoto/...org_piston.jpg
im assuming that theyre not gun specific

I... think that's right.. (can't really tell from the picture... The Oring looks a little small...)

but the back of stock marui heads have the string-grabber thingy... Buy that, take the head off, and take the spring to the hardware store and get yourself some thread locker and a proper sized nut to fit on the bolt.

Really, you should just take the time and upgrade your piston head... everything you'll have to do is about the same amount of work.. and upgrading the piston head will give you the best result.

ok thanks. ill think about it more before i buy something

heh. accidentally came accross an O ring for tm and ca on ebay after posting this. auction page says nothing about size
http://i12.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/ee/ab/d09d_1.JPG

... Seriously, once you have everything apart... you may aswell just replace the piston head... It's a what... 15 dollar upgrade?

Just replace the whole piston head with something good.

Bob,

Do you think a very large 9.6V (1500mAh) stick battery would fit your AKS-74U without modifications?

The front handguard is hollow, it can take up to a 12v stick battery with its design with no mods.

i've been looking at getting an AK for a nice back up gun. and for the price on of those 74NU's wouldn't be a bad idea at all.

2x G&P Bakelite mags arrived in the mail today.

Luckily enough, they're the right colour/shape/all that, and despite being lighter then a butterfly's arse they seem like they'll do the job.

Haven't test fired yet, unfortunately, but I was disappointed on putting the mag in the weapon- I had to force it a little bit more to drive it home, and instead of the usual 'click' I got a sad-sounding 'pop'.

Will try and put some rounds through it shortly.

hope those work for you

Finally got around to testing the Bakelites.
They feed great, but I still have to wear them in- it's a bit of a pain in the arse to change mags to them, as it doesn't have the solid 'click' when it's put in.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...xedCropped.jpg

Finally gamed this beast. There's nothing like having a weapon you can use with one hand and fit into a backpack that has the range of a weapon twice or three times as big. Put a small RDS on it, it blows the shitty irons away.

I love what you've done with it, it looks amazing and its good to hear it is a solid performer on the field.

You've got me convinced... I definetly want one.

Cheers man, it's actually getting the following upgrades as we speak, courtesy of the amazing gun-doc wKnight-

Modify Bearing Spring Guide - V3
Systema Silent Head Set V3 gearbox
Modify Air Seal Nozzle - AK47 Series
Guarder Improved Hop-up Set - Black

I really can't recommend this gun enough, it's only been about 2 months and it's been to hell and back with me.

i seen a 74 just like that one on ebay being sold as an rpk cuz it has a dual drum mag. i like it a lot
http://cgi.ebay.com/380-FPS-CUSTOM-R...QQcmdZViewItem

Wow great pricing on that 'RPK'. I wish I had a shipping address in Vermont so I could drive over the border, pick it up and come back with it (following that other thread about declaring under 400fps, orange-tipped airsoft rifles).

I gotta say, I hate the C-mag on it, I prefer AKs with a single drum.

Which reminds me, just ordered an autowinding drum mag, something like this-

http://www.airsoftgi.com/images/Pict...drum%20mag.jpg

More for shits then anything else.

reminds me of a tommy gun with one of those on an ak

o yea this is my gun, will buy it as soon as i find one

i want one of those rpk 74u's so bad. i was just gonna buy a c-mag for my kraken im working on but then i thought well that just wouldnt be the same
it says it has a full metal body. thats pretty cool, i wonder if the hand guards are real wood though
the c-mag is sound activated which makes me wonder how well it works and how much sound it takes to activate it, like if youre out running around and every loud noise or bump of the gun sets off the winding mech. it says it can use most m4/m16 mags and im like huuuh???

Drum mag came in.

I gotta admit I like this way better then that fuck-ugly C-mag, those don't look good on AKs at all. Armalites + Cmags, I happen to have a penchant for.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...F/203926-1.jpg

heyy it really DOES look nice on that AK, sweet gun dude!

Now you just need a Kobra!

is it electric!? is it metal!? the mag i mean lol

Yep, electric and metal. Threw some new batteries in it, feeds like a dream (at least on semi, haven't auto'd it yet).

Also, I'm not getting a Kobra. lolsrsly, nothing short of finding one for $20 at a local flea market will get me to buy one. I like them, but can't justify the price.

so as soon as you attach a scope to this gun you wont be able to fold the stock ?

ok whats the deal with the orange mags on the 74's? i think they are so ugly. i hate orange

Apparently you, sir, are not an AK purist. Real AK fans know that "orange mags" are representative of Bakelite - a type of plastic that REAL '74 mags are/were made of. They also come in black and plum.

Agreed.

Also, no, the stock doesn't fold with the rail mount attached, but it slides off with the pull of a lever.

Where can we can one of those nice Ak in Canada right now?
With real wood and steel option.

I got it on the Classifieds, actually, should be in the Sold Guns section.

Chances are you can get Shootsoft or whatnot to bring one in for you, or one of the other private dealers.

If it's as good as you say, I may very well have found my first gun...ah 24-48h 'til I get age-verified and can blow my retirement fund on plastic guns :D

lol so ur not gunna get this gun are you?

im sorry. i just dont like the color orange

Only plastic part's the tiny screw cover on the side and the pistol grip.
;)

Either way, gaming the setup tomorrow, just zeroed the red dot again. We'll see how it does now- it's got a better airseal and nozzle, just ordered a high-torque Modify gearset, as well.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...N0870Fixed.jpg

At least it feeds well. Massive amount of problems with the drum mag, hopefully remedied by the tape put in to keep the feed tube in place.

OK, now my mags misfeed like motherfuckers because I left them loaded for a few days by accident.

Anyone know how to take apart the G&P Bakelite midcaps? I gotta stretch the springs- it's definitely not the gun as hicaps and the drum mag feed fine.

Also, any ideas on how to fit this on would be great-

http://dpharms.com/images/110-1096_IMG.JPG

you will need to cut off the rear stock tangs from the reciever and remove the stock trunnion, then simply loosen the 2 screws on the end of that and slide into place and the tighten the screws again, i have the same one on my ak47 :D

woah wait, you wanted to fit it on the gun in the pic? or a regular ak body?

Same one in the picture, I only have the AKS74U.

hmm not exactly sure, good place to start would be where the hinges connect to the receiver on your current stock, honestly your gun already has a folding stock tho and it is sexxy, y would you want to change that?

I like this stock a bit better after seeing a PMC with it, also my folding stock clashes with my RDS and won't fold when I have it on.

ahh i see, for functional reasons that's kool. i had an underfolding stock before but it broke so when i got a metal body i got the AIMS to put onto it, strip the gun and see if the hinges are welded to the gun or how they are otherwise attached, you may need to cut the hinges off if the are part of the receiver and attach the AIMS

right now i have a krinkoff front end on the body with the AIMS, i think you would like that then

Fuck, don't really want to cut hinges off- may just rig up something to replace the stock altogether.

Pictures please, I love AIMS.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6084/ak47bwk6.th.jpg

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6292/ak47cix8.th.jpg
sorry no pics of the krinkoff version as yet, will try to post some when i get home

I'd suggest getting a different body and just swapping them, not the easiest solution but better than wrecking a perfectly good aks-74 body

Ooh, that's fucking nice.
I was thinking something more along the lines of taking the stock off and just having a rig machined to replace it, as the lock is part of the piece that attaches to it it shouldn't be hard at all to just have the block placed where my stock used to be.

thanks, yeah i guess that would work, but then you wouldnt have a stock, maybe try a different scope that more compatible with your current stock?

No such thing, unfortunately- only thing I can think of is a stock that folds to the right (the AIMS). The scope mount's the only thing that'll work without an ugly front rail.

ahhh ok yeah that kinda sux

Either way. I like having a stock but also like the ability to fold it in- if all else fails I'll leave it as is. My project right now is an M4 anyways.

or go scopeless, ain't nothing wrong with aiming down the barrel, with that drum-mag you can afford to miss lol ;)

You have a very solid Ak there Komrad Bob. Good choice!

AKS 74U Wooden Hand Guard
 

Hello to everyone who had viewed this forum! :)


I just want to know if you guys know if wether a VFC wood handguard for AKS 74U will fit to the CYMA AKS 74U or not. Also is there any nice AKS 74 series hand grip with a dark brown color that will fit to the AKS 74U? Thanks. :)

Well the only advice I can offer in regards to that is that its wood, if it does not fit, it can be slowly made to fit if you are careful and paitent.

did it come stock with the tightbore, metal body and wood grip, or were those added on by yourself or a previous owner?

metal body and wood grip comes stock

tightbore doesnt

Need help so bad :(
 

Hello to everyone!


I need help regarding the pin that connects to the front sight of the gun that locks the flashhider of AKS 74U. It started when I tried to take the flash hider apart from the gun. It was epoxied, I first scratched the epoxy and what I did next, was, I grabbed a screwdriver and hammer. I used the tip of the screwdriver to push down the pin a bit by hammering it downward. And what happened was that I ended up hammering it all the way down that the pin completely went through the hole. Not even a portion of it was exposed. Now I'm having trouble taking it out. It wasn't suppose to be that tight or could it be because of some of the left over epoxy that was squeezed in between the side of the pin and the space. Is there a tool made to remedy this problem? Do you guys know any method on how to take it apart? I tried to use a strong magnet but it didn't work. :( Thanks in advance.

maybe a few drops of a mild solvent or perhaps oil might loosen it up a bit