new pistol. super bad ass
 

ok. so i dont know if anyone has seen this yet but FN has released a new pistol sporting a 20 ROUND CLIP! yeah. but heres the best part it fires the P90 5.56x28mm ammo!

http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/fi...01&mid=FNM0129

thats the write-up at fn usa. now take a look at this little slice of heaven

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...3Doff%26sa%3DG

now i want to know. who wants the real one, who wants the airsoft one, and who wants BOTH!?

It's a sporting version of the FiveseveN, what's the big deal? You weren't aware of the FiveseveN before this?

Marushin makes one, I think there's a couple for sale in the GBB sale forum. TM is also coming out with one, whenever they get around to it.

Corrected. 5.7mm sucks shit.

Magazine, clip's are what you put in internal magazine style rifles.

The FiveseveN is HOW OLD?

EDIT: Looked it up. 8 YEARS AGO.


And what's so bad about 5.7mm? It's armor-piercing at least.

didnt know it was that old. i just saw it a week ago in a gun mag.

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better than 9mm

sorry. i do know the difference between a mag and a clip and when did grimm get those? now i need 300+ bucks. fuck

the fact is freaking rare sucks, but it has its uses. if it was a more common round i'd be all over it. but...its not.

and it hasnt been on the market for too long, maybe 2-3 years max. before it was for LE/military only AFAIK.

Questar has some RS for...1,399 peanuts.

HK45. Nuff said.

http://mytedium.com/guns/hk/HK45-StillLife.jpg

+1

Oh god...

It's like the outcome of a fight between a USP and Fisher Price...

Check out who helped design it.

You're far too quick to judge, man. Seriously.. lol

Fisherprice > Five Seven

Love the compact.

Hoorah for civilianized copies of restricted weapons firing ammunition that makes it no better than high velocity .22! If the ACTUAL SS190 Ball rounds were available at a modestly cheap price, then this might be something to shout about.

But, admittedly the USG hasn't been around that long (IIRC 2005), so I suppose we can give them points for innovation.

And yeah: HK45, at least now they're not ripping people off for their own proprietary rail anymore.

I'm sure Mr.Vickers chewed 'em out about that one ;) hahahh

Care to elaborate for the ones not in the loop?

HK USPs use a rail that requires very specific attachments, as the rail isn't milspec picatinny.

There are conversion kits out there, however they can get pricey.

Heh - you only saw it a week ago? Have you never played Counter Strike??

... The queen of england could have helped design it for all I care. I'm just stating purely based on aesthetics that it looks like it was designed by fisher price. (At least the brownish ones that you posted a picture of) :)

Stargate SG1 called, They want there 5.7 round back

Wow, that's ass-tastic.

may I just posit here, why in the blue fuck would they make an airsoft version of the CIVILLIAN FiveseveN??

I am sure this has been argued to death, but if armour piercing is what you need, why not go for the tried and true .223 or .308? I guess thats just me since I know in a real life situation, one would trust these rounds to get the job done.

What was the point in developing the 5.7mm anyways? Was it to get armour-piercing without shooting through walls and injuring other people?

The Five Seven's pretty much a gotta have for anyone with P90.

As for the USP rail so what, I prefer that that type of lower profile rail to the more aggressive types like on a SIG etc. Adapters are like $20 unless you're looking for something silly then it's maybe $90.

It is and it isn't. The Five-seveN USG is designed for the US Government, and by civilian, it's meant 'Law Enforcement'. There are other variants supposedly in use with other military forces around the world. But, the USG variant is not supposed to be in the hands of civilians. The PS-90 variant of the P90 is however, but the AP ball rounds are definetly supposed to stay out of civilian hands, and an expensive non-armour piercing round was developed for civilians, but it's no better than firing .22's at people.


AFA the 5.7x28mm round goes, it's designed to fire a bullet capable of defeating CRISAT with a very LOW recoil impulse. This being said, it's still no substitute for the stopping power and damage of 5.56 or 7.62, but at close ranges it's more accurate due to lower recoil. The round also has a very low chance of ricochet and overpenetration (at least, that's what's shown in their video featuring the P90 and the SS190 round that's fired out of the 5-7)

The pistol/SMG chapter from the same book.

Lighter, smaller, less recoil, more accurate, more in the magazine, the ability to penetrate Mil-Spec helmets and vests but still create a massive wound by tumbling.

I don't believe it does that much damage via tumbling, or if it does it slows down a lot. Look at the promo video and they have a picture of the NATO ballistic gel tests. Not much tumbling displayed there. In fact the RCMP did testing with it vs. ballistic gel covered by Lev II body armour and without and the penetration was less than spectacular and didn't meet the minimums of penetration that normal handgun rounds offer.

No substitute for .45 ACP! :D

That's the Belgian bumf on the logic behind the round. I guess you'd have to be putting vests on some sort of livestock and popping rounds off at them.

Wouldn't want to have to sort that one out in the press when it got out!

The idea was to have more of a rifle-punch in an SMG round.

Hahahah good one ;)

We agree to disagree.

I still like the new FNH45 better....

Well if we're going to start this now I'd like Browning BDM.

and the thread ended right here.

Isnt the 5.7mm round banned in Canada for it's AP/tumbling properties

only the AP is banned.

nothing beats the good ol' 1911.