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kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 01:38

CA's P90
 
I just saw the Arnies Airsoft news and I just need to double check that CA P90 (probably going to be call CA90) is only available in TR form? and by the looks the magazine isn't going to have fake bullets nor Real trade....


BIG Disappointment for me x.x

Styrak February 19th, 2008 01:40

Any other P90 than the TM?

Rubbish! :P

And the mag does have trades... At least on one version.

kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 01:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 647633)
Any other P90 than the TM?

Rubbish! :P

And the mag does have trades...

o.O are you calling P90 Rubbish or TM? There's two other clone company; Well and Bargain both have review which is similar to the first tank (They don't even get to owner in one piece)
As for mag it says like
FOR GOVERNMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY etc

skalnok February 19th, 2008 01:44

he means that you are lieing about a new p90 coming out

kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by skalnok (Post 647635)
he means that you are lieing about a new p90 coming out

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/news2/

meh be under a rock I guess

Goodl2ussian February 19th, 2008 01:50

screw the P90...mag pouches are impossible to find and you cant pack too many mags anyways.

Im peepin the RPK / SCAR H and potentially the AK47s

Styrak February 19th, 2008 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 647634)
o.O are you calling P90 Rubbish or TM? There's two other clone company; Well and Bargain both have review which is similar to the first tank (They don't even get to owner in one piece)
As for mag it says like
FOR GOVERNMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ONLY etc

I meant anything other than the TM P90 is rubbish.

The WELL P90 is utter crap.

attack-beaver February 19th, 2008 02:04

no fake bullets? so means easier to import for the player.

kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 02:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 647653)
no fake bullets? so means easier to import for the player.

Not sure the compatiability though, remember TM made the exit a little different than real ones

Styrak February 19th, 2008 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 647654)
Not sure the compatiability though, remember TM made the exit a little different than real ones

Any other mags work different than real ones.

DC_ACU February 19th, 2008 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 647654)
Not sure the compatiability though, remember TM made the exit a little different than real ones

haha shit, a little different?
i dont think the difference would be that much.
:sarcasm:

Omi-san February 19th, 2008 05:40

Like all other CA AEGs, it comes with an Hi-cap magazine. Hence the lack of fake bullets. Just like for their G36 serie.

kalnaren February 19th, 2008 07:59

Sucks that it's the TR version. I don't know why, but I REALLY don't like the look of the TR.

LUTNIT February 19th, 2008 09:42

CA MP5k!? Now you have my attention...

Had a TM P90, loved it, super comfortable, as said mags are hard to find and impossible to carry many with you, sold it.

Styrak February 19th, 2008 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUTNIT (Post 647792)
CA MP5k!? Now you have my attention...

Had a TM P90, loved it, super comfortable, as said mags are hard to find and impossible to carry many with you, sold it.

Well I have 2 double mag pouches, so it's pretty easy to carry 4 mags.

The Saint February 19th, 2008 12:29

Looks like CA's move into the GBB market is finally reaching fruition, too.

Goldman February 19th, 2008 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodl2ussian (Post 647638)
screw the P90...mag pouches are impossible to find and you cant pack too many mags anyways.

Im peepin the RPK / SCAR H and potentially the AK47s

Mag pouches for the P90 are stupid simple if you take a moment to think.

Not only have companies like TT released official UMP/P90 magazine pouches, but other companies have had suitable pouches for years now, most notably most "pop flare pouches" The pop flare is the same size as P90 mag. Phantom also makes a pretty cheap yet awesome copy.

Seriously, I'm tired of people here shitting on various AEGs for bullshit reasons. "Its chinese, it must be shit!" "It has wierd mags, it must be shit!".

Seriously, just look into it abit.

kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omi-san (Post 647703)
Like all other CA AEGs, it comes with an Hi-cap magazine. Hence the lack of fake bullets. Just like for their G36 serie.

umm CA g36 have fake bullets in their standard, but so far CA P90 ones does not show a sign of any. And the finish looks like chinasoft no offense, seams can be seen easily.

As for P90 pouch, check Thevestguy, hes got like everything you need for P90

tunabreath February 19th, 2008 14:13

The CA G36 does not have fake bullets in the magazine standard. I have one sitting next to me with its included hicap magazine, no fake bullets to be seen. If yours does, it must have a TM or KA lowcap. Those do have fake bullets.

CA has really pulled up their quality standards compared to a couple of years ago. I don't think we can really judge its quality from an early photo. Considering how awesome their B&T and G36 series are (and moderately high marks for the M15 as well), I'm sure the P90 will be quite good.
I'd also personally prefer the RD version.



*edit at kullwarrior below:
Yep, all CA guns stock come with a hicap, so no fake bullets, even though the CA G36 locaps have em. I forgot that CA made G36 lows as well :p therein lies the confusion I guess.
True about producing the RD version being more difficult/expensive. They'd have to find an optics manufacturer to work with on it. Note that TM was already well off in this regard (TM pro sights, the Aimpoint included with the MP5 RAS, etc), and that TM's P90RD production stopped a little while ago (since resumed) partially because of problems with the optics manufacturer (and the molds for the optic/receiver as well, if that wasn't just a rumor).
It would probably be easier to transplant a TM RD receiver onto a CA, since it'd be cheaper than a real one (no awesome double ring + illuminated T though, just the basic red dot), but really, no point if you need to butcher a P90 just to get a P90 back :p

About dryfiring, there is an electronic hopup chamber (armalite) being produced by someone for regular AEGs that detects last round firing and prevents dryfire (one of my AEG pet peeves too... leaning towards gas to avoid it, since a PTW still makes that angry sewing machine sound). Think about that as a cheaper alternative to the PTW if that's the only thing hanging you up on a traditional AEG.

**I hope the CA P90TR comes with a metal receiver (unlike TM, but very like CA).

kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 14:20

http://www.aasurplus.ca/components/c...cag3650rnd.jpg
Could be wrong if they give hi-cap instead.
I think the standard P90 is harder to make compare to the TR where you can use stick three rails and your done basically. I'm pretty sure the standard version now can only be done by getting a metal/ plastic receiver of standard ones and buy a MC-10-80 at $700 (yea its that retail price)
I'm still solid on not buying CA/TM just because of dry firing

Styrak February 19th, 2008 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 647977)
I'm still solid on not buying CA/TM just because of dry firing

You mean buying anything that isn't a PTW?

ProbeJax February 19th, 2008 14:40

I don't see why people complain about mag pouches. I've got three on my leg, and can clamp more to a vest. They're really easy to find too, because lots of places carry them as "nessary speciality" pouches.

Rumpel Felt February 19th, 2008 14:41

And....what do you buy pray tell?

ProbeJax February 19th, 2008 14:46

You mean what brand my pouches are?

tunabreath February 19th, 2008 14:50

I think I've broken some post editing etiquette rules, so I'll just make a new post.

I found the link for that hop up chamber. Apparently it comes in the AK variety as well:
http://forums.airsoftmechanics.com/i...hp?topic=654.0

Omi-san February 19th, 2008 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 647966)
umm CA g36 have fake bullets in their standard, but so far CA P90 ones does not show a sign of any. And the finish looks like chinasoft no offense, seams can be seen easily.

As for P90 pouch, check Thevestguy, hes got like everything you need for P90

Yes, CA makes low-caps with fake bullets, but the mag that comes with the G36 is a Hi-cap.

It's most likely going to be the same with the P90.

LUTNIT February 19th, 2008 20:43

Long mags with a P90 wasn't a bullshit reason, I never said it was hard to get mag pouches. Changing mags in very tight quarters (like curled into a ball behind a rock not big enough to cover my entire body while being shot at by a dozen enemies) is next to impossible, I know this from experience. Also when I had a chest full of P90 mags I couldn't bend over well (I'm 6'3" so its not cause I'm short.) Mag changes are awkward and slow (don't try to bullshit me with the "you need to practice more" shit because with the same experience level an AR/G36 mag change will always be faster than a P90 mag change.) The lowcap mags themselves have fake bullets (harder to import), the hicaps for the P90 are practically useless, and very limited battery space.

The P90 is also my favorite subgun of all time, I absolutely love how it looks but I've tried using one and an AK/AR/G36/M14/etc. just makes more sense to me for practicality. The P90 has arguably the best hopup design in existence surpassing even pro-win or the PTW, the ver.6 mechbox is practically indestructible, and the bullpup design means you can fit a long barrel in a very small package (had an M16 barrel in my old one and it was still shorter than an M4.)

ThunderCactus February 19th, 2008 22:04

FYI the SCAR-H is out, someones already ordered one lol
Forget the P90, lots of people are still waiting for CA to release the RPK :p

kullwarrior February 19th, 2008 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUTNIT (Post 648387)
The lowcap mags themselves have fake bullets harder to import

Not sure if there's a guniea pig tried import seperated. (Magazine in one package, bullets in another. Basically one list as Sporting goods, another inert rounds)

LUTNIT February 19th, 2008 23:06

Would mean asking the retailer to take apart the mags. Could work, just make sure its someone who doesn't have a flagged address by customs (so not me :()

kullwarrior February 20th, 2008 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUTNIT (Post 648567)
Would mean asking the retailer to take apart the mags. Could work, just make sure its someone who doesn't have a flagged address by customs (so not me :()

I'll try it when I go 18 (Im learning the test stuff I need to get PAL, so I guess it could work, since inert round are not license require let alone with a PAL)

mcguyver February 20th, 2008 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 648620)
I'll try it when I go 18 (Im learning the test stuff I need to get PAL, so I guess it could work, since inert round are not license require let alone with a PAL)

Yes, but it is an offence to ship inert or "dummy" munitions via Canada Post:

http://www.canadapost.com/personal/c....asp?prid=1192

Many carriers have restrictions on that as well. Best check with your carrier before you order.

your-pastor March 28th, 2008 22:44

yeah, about that, is there any place that anyone knows that either has p90 mags in stock, or can get them in?
i just got my gun back in October, and i'm already getting sick of hiding in a muddy foxhole using my gigantic speed loader to refill. over. and over. and over.

also, does anyone know where, i can get ones for cheap? not that im low on coin, but i dont like the whole 60$ a pop at 007 when at airsoft GI its like 20$
(or how to get across border; spray paint black? remove fake ammo's? anyone tried?)

SDS_ShooterMcGavin March 28th, 2008 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by your-pastor (Post 680288)
yeah, about that, is there any place that anyone knows that either has p90 mags in stock, or can get them in?
i just got my gun back in October, and i'm already getting sick of hiding in a muddy foxhole using my gigantic speed loader to refill. over. and over. and over.

also, does anyone know where, i can get ones for cheap? not that im low on coin, but i dont like the whole 60$ a pop at 007 when at airsoft GI its like 20$
(or how to get across border; spray paint black? remove fake ammo's? anyone tried?)

Don't you have a thread about this already?

Airmax April 2nd, 2008 04:02

Interested to see an CA version when they do arrive somewhere in Canada. I've had my TM P90 for just about 2 years now with an drop leg mag pouch to carry 3 plus one in an side pouch on the leg carrier. Dave's surplus in New west. carries mags pouch's for ump/P90 mags or can order them in.
I have to agree with other post's that reloading in an firefight can be very challaging with the size of the mags!
I wonder if the CA version of the P90 mags will come with higher or lower BB counts than the current 68 rounds found in TM's or that of the High cap mags. Anyone know?
cheers

No_Way April 2nd, 2008 04:38

What about a midcap without fake bullet around 200bb's capacity that fit in the TM too (total compatibility) ??

your-pastor April 2nd, 2008 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDS_ShooterMcGavin (Post 680309)
Don't you have a thread about this already?

yeah, but i posted this first, then thought to myself, i should just make a thread about it cuz no one would awnsure me in this one, wich no one has...


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