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dragwindsor February 18th, 2008 04:02

Help me to choose a holster please.
 
What is my best choice for a over the heart/chest holster? I plan on getting a KWA Olive and Black .45 USP GBB. This is the vest I'm getting. Thanks.

Vest
http://www.armyissue.com/Gallery/dis...?album=6&pos=4

Pistol
http://www.speedytoys.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=714

The Saint February 18th, 2008 04:09

A chest carry holster is only really feasible on a MOLLE platecarrier.

dragwindsor February 18th, 2008 04:22

I'd like to keep the pistol on my chest. What else can I do? I like that vest. I'm getting six lowcaps. It's kinda hard to find a CADPAT vest with 6 m4/m16 mag bags under $100.

HGI February 18th, 2008 05:46

there's a lot of cadpad leg holsters around, http://www.armyissue.com/ Should have them.

If you want chest holster, http://rap4.com/ has some $100 vest and holsters that work for airsoft but not a whole lot for cadpat, but you could always go ACU.

dragwindsor February 18th, 2008 06:39

Thanks

Crunchmeister February 18th, 2008 10:03

I have that vest. The pouches are permanently fixed to it, so there's no place for a crossdraw holster on it. It simply won't fit. I got a CADPAT drop leg holster to go with it.

dragwindsor February 18th, 2008 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 646596)
I have that vest. The pouches are permanently fixed to it, so there's no place for a crossdraw holster on it. It simply won't fit. I got a CADPAT drop leg holster to go with it.

How do you like that vest? Can I place a holster over the RIGHT side? Thanks

Cheesevillage February 18th, 2008 15:27

You can always go for the pistol-in-mag-pouch look.

Maybe even mod a pouch to be better?




-Cheese

The Saint February 18th, 2008 15:27

All the pouches on the vest from the armyissue link are fixed, you can't replace them with holster on either side, but you can use a pouch like a holster as Cheese said. If you want something modular, go MOLLE. Believe me, I started off with a similar vest, but ended up with MOLLE anyways. People like to customize stuff.

http://stores.ebay.com/eHobby-Asia-A...2QQlnsZ1QQtZkm

Crunchmeister February 18th, 2008 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragwindsor (Post 646803)
How do you like that vest? Can I place a holster over the RIGHT side? Thanks

You won't be able to put a holster on the right side. Even a hip holster won't work well with this vest, since it will be in the way. Like I said, a drop leg holster is the way to go with this particular vest.

And as was mentioned, a MOLLE compatible vest is usually best, as you can reconfigure it as required, add pouches, etc. However, I haven't been able to find a MOLLE vest in CADPAT, so that's why I went with this particular vest.

As for the vest itself, it seems fine, although I haven't fielded it yet. It holds all the AEG mags I would need to carry in a game, so that's what matters to me right now. The back has the MOLLE mounts so you can attach a hydration pouch and/or a butt pack, which is a plus. Good vest for the money if you're after CADPAT. It's the only one I could find other than surplused issue vests, which I don't care much for anyway.

Amos February 18th, 2008 22:22

I have a very nice cadpat hip holster that I'm looking to sell (It'll work with that vest because it is lowered to hip-level) ... It's a very high quality holster... PM me if you're interested.

DC_ACU February 18th, 2008 22:29

are you ordering that gun from THAT particular site?
you might want to read into the importing laws.

pOkiE February 18th, 2008 23:35

i dont know how you would go about attaching the holster to the vest. go with MOLLE stuff man...esp if you have more than one rifle with different types of mags. its a bit pricier but has more advantages in the long run.

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by pOkiE (Post 647512)
i dont know how you would go about attaching the holster to the vest. go with MOLLE stuff man...esp if you have more than one rifle with different types of mags. its a bit pricier but has more advantages in the long run.

I'm just getting my first AEG ( JG HK416 ). I don't like the MOLLE look.

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 10:50

MOLLE is not about look, it's about functionality. They are worth it. But again, if you're looking for something in CADPAT, your choices are limited, and I personally couldn't find any CADPAT MOLLE stuff.

And that vest will hold 12 M4/M16 mags as it is (2 per pouch). So in theory, you could use one of the mag pouches as a pistol holster, although I personally wouldn't trust that for fear of losing my pistol. I'd rather have it securely locked into a proper holster.

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 647828)
MOLLE is not about look, it's about functionality. They are worth it. But again, if you're looking for something in CADPAT, your choices are limited, and I personally couldn't find any CADPAT MOLLE stuff.

And that vest will hold 12 M4/M16 mags as it is (2 per pouch). So in theory, you could use one of the mag pouches as a pistol holster, although I personally wouldn't trust that for fear of losing my pistol. I'd rather have it securely locked into a proper holster.

Oh, they're double pouches? O.K. And yeah, That USP costs more than the HK416 ....lol. I'll probably go CADPAT dropleg. BTW, nice loadout you got there

CDN_Stalker February 19th, 2008 10:55

http://204tactical.com/store/product...92ee6877927430

http://204tactical.com/store/images/IMG_0111.jpg

They come in different colours, but you can fit any gun into it and place it anywhere you have PALS webbing to attach it to.

ExTERmINATION February 19th, 2008 10:57

Really hard for me to decide but for my Kit I have my holster on my leg, I have too much stuff on my vest and adding a holster on that is going to be difficult incase I have to draw it out quickly! but if you aint like me and some others try it out, won't hurt but I suggest a leg holster it's what I use and it's quick!

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 11:01

Is the pistol more likely to receive damage in dropleg position?

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 11:06

I don't see how having a pistol in a leg holster would get it anymore damaged than a chest holder, really. With all the mags that I'm carrying on my vest, It's gonna be bulky enough in the field as-is. I don't care to add extra bulk and weight or something else for my rifle sling to get tangled up in. So for my immediate needs, that vest works for me. Perhaps down the road I may consider getting something MOLLE, but for now, this one will do fine.

Jimski February 19th, 2008 11:15

depends how you play.

I personnally dive often, especially in the woods.
for me the most secure position is a real holster (not a magpouch that will drop the pistol at the worst moments) on the chest as a cross-draw.

dropleg holsters bang in the walls in cqb and get caught in the vegetation unless you are very careful.(or you play like a leek, stand up and don't move.)

If you need to crouch for a long time the straps mess with your legs, and if they are connected to a belt at the bottom of a tactical vest, it's even worse.
If you play physical and speedy, you don't want heavy stuff hanging from your legs and moving around, especially a fragile airsoft pistol that's nothing like a real pistol.

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 647839)
I don't see how having a pistol in a leg holster would get it anymore damaged than a chest holder, really. With all the mags that I'm carrying on my vest, It's gonna be bulky enough in the field as-is. I don't care to add extra bulk and weight or something else for my rifle sling to get tangled up in. So for my immediate needs, that vest works for me. Perhaps down the road I may consider getting something MOLLE, but for now, this one will do fine.

I don't know how GBB's take on dirt, and there would be greater odds of dirt exposure on the leg.

Bowers February 19th, 2008 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 647828)
MOLLE is not about look, it's about functionality. They are worth it. But again, if you're looking for something in CADPAT, your choices are limited, and I personally couldn't find any CADPAT MOLLE stuff.

And that vest will hold 12 M4/M16 mags as it is (2 per pouch). So in theory, you could use one of the mag pouches as a pistol holster, although I personally wouldn't trust that for fear of losing my pistol. I'd rather have it securely locked into a proper holster.

for a semi cadpat MOLLE he could always buy a olive vest and just use cadpat pouches

ExTERmINATION February 19th, 2008 11:22

I agree with Crunchmeister here, I'm carrying alot of stuff on my vest, many mag pouches, radio and all that fun junk adding a pistol holster takes up space which could be used for other things.

I'm an Assaulter so I put the pistol on my leg, even if I'm running into grab and all that the holster keeps the thing protective as well, you'll maybe get scratches on it but thats a given.

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 11:32

So dirt isn't really an issue compared to comfort and function?

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 11:33

They're pretty dirt-resistent compared to AEGs, at least I'd think. Although I can't speak from experience since I've never fielded my guns yet.

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 12:07

Oh yeah... one thing I do like about this vest is that it has belt loops on it. That's really nice. I hate having heavy shit (holster, mag dump pouch, canteen, etc) on a hip belt and have the weight of the gear constantly pulling the belt down. With that vest, the vest's belt loops hold your belt, which in turn support your other heavy stuff.

If you're going to buy a non-MOLLE vest, be sure it has those belt loops. It's a great thing to have. Not an option IMO. I was actually going to buy a real CF issue CADPAT vest from the local surplus store until I realized they didn't have belt loops...

CDN_Stalker February 19th, 2008 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 647871)
Oh yeah... one thing I do like about this vest is that it has belt loops on it. That's really nice. I hate having heavy shit (holster, mag dump pouch, canteen, etc) on a hip belt and have the weight of the gear constantly pulling the belt down. With that vest, the vest's belt loops hold your belt, which in turn support your other heavy stuff.

If you're going to buy a non-MOLLE vest, be sure it has those belt loops. It's a great thing to have. Not an option IMO. I was actually going to buy a real CF issue CADPAT vest from the local surplus store until I realized they didn't have belt loops...

Nor do they really have much in the way of mag carrying ability. Is what, 4 single mag pouches or something like that?

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 13:05

Yeah, that too. Just checked the real vest and it only has 4 single mag pouches. Has a lot of other pockets and stuff, but I'd see them of limited use. You could put mags in them, but they'd rattle around.

Not enough mag capacity for my liking. I want a minimum of 6 mags for my AEG. 12 is maybe overkill, but I'd rather have mag space I don't need than need mag space I don't have.

Jimski February 19th, 2008 13:16

get a OD molle chest rig with lotsa magazines.
Cheap and efficient.plenty of room, you can totally stuff 12 mag pouches stacked plus a holster.
there are non-molle chestrigs also if you really want to be uncomfortable.
get the biggest dump pouch you can or a gasmask pouch.
you need kneepads also, buy them before you get hurt.

oh and btw I had the exact same vest on which I fixed a left-handed holster for cross-draw on top of one of the mag pouches.It was easy because it was a shoulder holster, bought in a surplus.
Anyway, it was still a mess so I switched for the molle and now I can concentrate on the killing.
tactical vests suck ass.

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 14:43

Thanks guys. Is "dump pouch" the technical term?

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404 (Post 647947)
I usually run a drop leg holster. I rig it as high as I can without it interfering with my chest-rig/plate-carrier/whatever. I also set it on my belt so that it rides more to the rear of my thigh than on the side. Sort of just a touch lower and more forward than my wallet. I find that it stays out of the worst of the junk that way and I can get to it in a hurry in most positions. This isn't a speed draw competition, it's function over fashion.

I hav teh drop leg a bit lower - set so that the pistol is just a bit closer than the full extension of my arm, and a bit to the back, as you describes In this pic, it's a little more forward than I normally like it,

http://photos-452.ll.facebook.com/ph...083540_769.jpg


This was taken before I received my vest. Still had the replica PASGT helmet there too whereas now I have a real CF issue helmet.

Motaal February 19th, 2008 16:54

Dude, Nice goatee

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motaal (Post 648113)
Dude, Nice goatee

That pic was teken in early December, so it wasn't that long. You get a better view of it here, although this pic is about 6 weeks old. It's quite a bit longer now. Just don't have any more recent pics.

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/phot...85484_1303.jpg

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 18:29

Crunchmeister.... Your quote is sweet.......

"Whoever appeals to law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of themself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, "If I die you are forgiven, If I live, I will kill you". Such is the rule of honor." Randy Blythe...Lamb of God

Crunchmeister February 19th, 2008 18:36

That's a good quote too. I thought Hetfield's quote would be very applicable to airsoft, hence why I added it. :D

dragwindsor February 19th, 2008 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 648224)
That's a good quote too. I thought Hetfield's quote would be very applicable to airsoft, hence why I added it. :D

I read yours twice the first time I saw it. It's a revalation.

bestnightmare July 23rd, 2008 23:52

If I buy a holster from the US will they ship it to Canada? or will it get seized by customs?? I'm looking at the Safariland Nylock snap strap field holster.

theguy July 24th, 2008 00:24

nice bass...always wanted a 5 string


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