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temple47 January 10th, 2008 23:28

Review - Shootsoft.ca
 
I just found this online, and saw a jg 416 for 350 in canada. But im feeling a bit suspicious because it says its a canadian company but its prices are available only in us dollars or euro. I smell something fishy but really would not like it to be.

http://www.shootsoft.ca/store/

ancorp January 10th, 2008 23:38

Poor spelling. Bad sign.

I wouldn't trust them for a second.

ArcticFox1984 January 10th, 2008 23:38

This site seems very fishy to me... I am not sure what to say, other then shennanagans!


But it would be nice if a insanely huge stockpile of legally imported airsoft guns magically appeared, without anybody in the community knowing anything about it...

All I know is IF I was going to order anything from that site, I would only pay through paypal ( assuming they are a verified seller who has buyer protection exceeding the cost of my purchase. ) AND my first order would be the cheapest thing on their website... like a hopup rubber, just to see where it's sent from and how professionaly they deal with it. Afterall, getting ripped for a AEG and getting ripped for a 1 gram peice of silicon aren't quite the same.

White_knight January 10th, 2008 23:38

your right it does look suspicious. seems to be a few retailers are "popping up" as of late. man it would be nice if they are legit tho... and with good prices

seabass January 10th, 2008 23:43

Im not touching that one

ancorp January 10th, 2008 23:46

Hmm they have a link to ASC on the site.

I sent off an email to them asking their location, availability of local pickup, and if someone on ASC has dealt with them that can vouch for 'em. We shall see what reply I get.

temple47 January 10th, 2008 23:46

because im not going near that one or anyone else on my team until someone vouches for em.

ProbeJax January 10th, 2008 23:48

There seems to be a lot of the LPEGS there.

Scooby Steve January 10th, 2008 23:49

"SHOOTSOFT.CA" is registered.

Domain Name: shootsoft.ca (2125115)Registered: 2007/12/11
Last Modified: 2007/12/12Expires: 2008/12/11 Registrant: Icilemonde communications (2125115)Christian Charron christian@icilemonde.com (2001907)514-702-1014 Technical: support@look.ca (2001908)
ns1.carpathiahost.net 66.117.50.28
ns2.carpathiahost.net 69.93.123.18

The phone number is a cellphone in Montreal. Icilemonde.com links to Quebec Boy Scouts.

Ronan January 10th, 2008 23:51

Someone call them up.

Styrak January 10th, 2008 23:52

Well Paypal is the payment option. So it's pretty safe to send them money.

temple47 January 10th, 2008 23:54

I always knew those boy scouts were up to noe good :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 612569)
"SHOOTSOFT.CA" is registered.

Domain Name: shootsoft.ca (2125115)Registered: 2007/12/11
Last Modified: 2007/12/12Expires: 2008/12/11 Registrant: Icilemonde communications (2125115)Christian Charron christian@icilemonde.com (2001907)514-702-1014 Technical: support@look.ca (2001908)
ns1.carpathiahost.net 66.117.50.28
ns2.carpathiahost.net 69.93.123.18

The phone number is a cellphone in Montreal. Icilemonde.com links to Quebec Boy Scouts.


Tex January 10th, 2008 23:58

ASC user LaGROS was talking about this site awhile ago. maybe he knows the owner?

EDIT* looks like he is a "shareholder"

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=49076

Egg January 11th, 2008 00:07

Its a member of the fourm here, says that he wants to start his own store. he talked to me aftert i posted a link to my web page, seams ok hasent placed an order yet i dont think just working on a page....

this is what i didnt want to happen to "elitesupplies.ca" so i posted it myself.... Falme Flame Flame just becuse you dont know whats going on, he might get it up and running you never know.

Shirley January 11th, 2008 00:10

The weird thing is why do they have Euro and US Dollar currency selecter on the bottom right corner?

I got this from the Shipping & Returns link.
Here's a copy and paste.




Shipping & Returns


Shipping

Sorry, but we do not ship orders outside of Canada. We are a Canadian based company offering our products and services to Canada only. Due to high demand, we at shootSOFT.ca will do our very best to have all orders shipped out within 48 hours from the time of order and funds being in place. You can expect your parcel to be 3-5 business days in transit before it lands on your doorstep. We can not ship C.O.D. and will only ship orders that are pre-paid through our stores checkout system.



Returns

Presently, we do not offer any warranty or return policy on our products. ALL SALES ARE FINAL. Although, we do understand that sometimes a manufacturer can ship a product that is defective right out of the box. If you receive one of these defective products, than notify us within 24 hours of receiving your parcel. We will exchange your product free of charge


With a little of research. I went to the bottom of that shootsoft.ca, and copied the word, "osCommerce". Typed it in the ASC search and found the "Milsim-Supply Now Open " thread. And nailed down the user.


Quote:

Originally Posted by LeGROS (Post 611238)
Bravo Jackals,

I Know how long it is to put a store on line... mine will be in next week... dont worry no competition for you ;)

If you need help on a module for oscommerce... let me know!!

BRAVO again!!


Egg January 11th, 2008 00:22

Its LeGROS site I belive I talked to him it might not be open now, he is just working on it at the moment he told me its a nice looknig site and I hope that it opens some time in this year so we can all get more airsoft, more places that sell the equipment we need the more people will play and one day we all might beable to have games like "paint-ball" sky ball games etc...

the more the better.
Congrats on the site man and keep up the good work.

temple47 January 11th, 2008 00:26

well its nothing personal against him, i wish him the best, but until someone vouches for them my team isnt going near it.

BooKoo January 11th, 2008 00:46

Part of me hopes its legit, but its kinda like that old pizza. The outcome could be delicious or it could leave you in a small room all night long.

Although those 416's are always tempting. But after owning high quality, it can always be hard to move down a rung on the product ladder. Like said above, nothing till a good word is heard.

enigmahack January 11th, 2008 00:49

Don't know if anyone noticed, but it's an identical template/base that "buyairsoft.ca" uses. Not to say they're the same at all, I think buyairsoft is based out of somewhere in... *gets box*... Red Deer, Alberta.

Interesting none the less. *shrugs*

Styrak January 11th, 2008 00:49

I'm wondering why we can send him money if the store isn't even open yet?

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigmahack (Post 612609)
Don't know if anyone noticed, but it's an identical template/base that "buyairsoft.ca" uses. Not to say they're the same at all, I think buyairsoft is based out of somewhere in... *gets box*... Red Deer, Alberta.

Interesting none the less. *shrugs*

It's also the same software that A&A and ASCA used to use. Along with many other online shops / aisoft stores. Doesn't mean anything.

enigmahack January 11th, 2008 00:53

Didn't think so honestly, just didn't realize so many other places also used the same template :)

Drake January 11th, 2008 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 612569)
"SHOOTSOFT.CA" is registered.

Domain Name: shootsoft.ca (2125115)Registered: 2007/12/11
Last Modified: 2007/12/12Expires: 2008/12/11 Registrant: Icilemonde communications (2125115)Christian Charron christian@icilemonde.com (2001907)514-702-1014 Technical: support@look.ca (2001908)
ns1.carpathiahost.net 66.117.50.28
ns2.carpathiahost.net 69.93.123.18

The phone number is a cellphone in Montreal. Icilemonde.com links to Quebec Boy Scouts.

It's a Montreal number, but the address is outside of Montreal

Quote:

shootsoft.ca = [ 66.197.60.192 ]

(Asked whois.cira.ca:43 about shootsoft.ca)

Status: EXIST
Registrar: Tucows.com Co.
Registrar-no: 156
Registrant-no: 2125115
Domaine-no: 2125115
Subdomain: shootsoft.ca
Renewal-Date: 2008/12/11
Date-Approved: 2007/12/11
Date-Modified: 2007/12/12
Organization: Icilemonde communications
Description: information sur le domaine du airsoft
Admin-Name: Christian Charron
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: Icilemonde communications
286 deland
St-Jean QC J2Y 1A6 Canada
Admin-Phone: 514-702-1014
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: christian@icilemonde.com

Tech-Name: Network Admin
Tech-Title:
Tech-Postal: EasyHosting.com
1755 boul. Rene-Levesque Est
Montreal QC H2K 4P6 Canada
Tech-Phone: 1.8003565665
Tech-Fax: 1.9056933646
Tech-Mailbox: support@look.ca

NS1-Hostname: ns1.carpathiahost.net
NS1-Netaddress:
NS2-Hostname: ns2.carpathiahost.net
NS2-Netaddress:
NS3-Hostname:
NS3-Netaddress:
NS4-Hostname:
NS4-Netaddress:
NS5-Hostname:
NS5-Netaddress:
NS6-Hostname:
NS6-Netaddress:
That being said, CIRA (the agency that administer .CA TLDs) actually does some identify checking for registrants (to the extent where they at least phone you up and ask some questions); the sole fact he opted for this instead of a .COM actually does give it a some amount of credibility (as opposed to say shootsoft.freehost.com or something)




Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 612570)
Someone call them up.

It's a Montreal number, why don't YOU?

mr_gomez January 11th, 2008 01:12

are you shitting me... most of those "sniper rifles" you can get for 100$ down in the states. anyway the agm sharpshooter i bought off an american site for 70$.

Amos January 11th, 2008 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_gomez (Post 612627)
are you shitting me... most of those "sniper rifles" you can get for 100$ down in the states. anyway the agm sharpshooter i bought off an american site for 70$.

read: canadian legalities ect ect ect

Greylocks?

BooKoo January 11th, 2008 01:18

I hear him coming now...

Styrak January 11th, 2008 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_gomez (Post 612627)
are you shitting me... most of those "sniper rifles" you can get for 100$ down in the states. anyway the agm sharpshooter i bought off an american site for 70$.

Oh boy, don't start this again...

enigmahack January 11th, 2008 01:28

Heh, do you do "Inb4dalock" here? lol

Jackals January 11th, 2008 01:32

OScommerce is a free script for online sales. Its not the best but it gets the job done.

I agree with Drake, having milsim-supply.ca, the CIRA does require a bit more info then just a .com.

Styrak January 11th, 2008 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigmahack (Post 612641)
Heh, do you do "Inb4dalock" here? lol

Lol, yes. It's usually Inb4Trash. Go check out the trash disposal! A wonderful assortment of threads graces that area.

arman January 11th, 2008 04:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Hitman (Post 612589)
The weird thing is why do they have Euro and US Dollar currency selecter on the bottom right corner?
.

A&A had the same thing on his website...my buddy tried to order a gun when the US buck sucked and mark just converted it back lol that ill happen lol

Greylocks January 11th, 2008 06:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_gomez (Post 612627)
are you shitting me... most of those "sniper rifles" you can get for 100$ down in the states. anyway the agm sharpshooter i bought off an american site for 70$.

I think you should stay far away from airsoft guns, or far away from this site, until you can prove you are over 18 AND that you have a single clue.

gvanzeggelaar January 11th, 2008 06:48

i hope this site is legit because they do have some dam good prices.

gunscythe January 11th, 2008 09:13

It's registered to Christian Charron out of Quebec. Anyone know him?

Name: Christian Charron
Admin-Title:
Admin-Postal: Icilemonde communications
286 deland
St-Jean QC J2Y 1A6 Canada
Admin-Phone: 514-702-1014
Admin-Fax:
Admin-Mailbox: christian@icilemonde.com
Tech-Name: Network Admin
Tech-Title:
Tech-Postal: EasyHosting.com
1755 boul. Rene-Levesque Est
Montreal QC H2K 4P6 Canada
Tech-Phone: +1.8003565665

Red Tiger January 11th, 2008 09:31

He is pretty new player based in the south shore of montreal. He began in late 2007. He is playing mainly with local friends and some lo age clearsoft players.

He did attend few big milsim.

Nothing on the site is stock, and before they show valid firearms buisness registrations stay away.

They seem to be a lot of new store poping up, that sell Clone AEG. Are they all legit ? i Wonder.

Firewalker January 11th, 2008 14:12

Hmm... Until I see G&P, I'm not even going to pay attention ;)

gvanzeggelaar January 11th, 2008 23:49

So when do we know that this store is legit and we can start buying stuff.

Jimski January 12th, 2008 00:09

try it :D

Andres January 12th, 2008 01:33

Requires additional knowledge >: |

I still think it'd be odd if it were legit to have popped out of thin air without the majority of ASC knowing about it. /end of already said stuff

skalnok January 12th, 2008 02:27

Quote:

Requires additional knowledge >: |

I still think it'd be odd if it were legit to have popped out of thin air without the majority of ASC knowing about it. /end of already said stuff
take egg for instance he has announced that he will be opening a store. his website may not be finished but because he announced it and answered all questions asked of him ( including saying he will only sell stuff when it is in canada, and what documentation he has ) people are more likely to trust him, than some store that pops out of nowhere.

and by this i mean hes giving us a heads up and not just showing up from nowhere.

Ronan January 12th, 2008 02:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 612619)
It's a Montreal number, why don't YOU?

Why not you? And its on my to do list for Monday.

Andres January 12th, 2008 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by skalnok (Post 613533)
take egg for instance he has announced that he will be opening a store. his website may not be finished but because he announced it and answered all questions asked of him ( including saying he will only sell stuff when it is in canada, and what documentation he has ) people are more likely to trust him, than some store that pops out of nowhere.

and by this i mean hes giving us a heads up and not just showing up from nowhere.

Yup, which is why I'm more likely to fork over any cash to Egg than say...

Shootsoft.

fireman182 January 12th, 2008 11:48

Just a reminder, 007 will match any other Canadian retailer on price! Since there has never been any other price to match, it will be interesting to see if he honours the little retail sites prices.

gvanzeggelaar January 12th, 2008 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimski (Post 613455)
try it :D

lol my funds are limited the way it is without potentially throwing money at nothing

No_Way January 14th, 2008 00:42

Testing !

Skladfin January 14th, 2008 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by No_Way (Post 614855)
Testing !

No way!?

you bought something?

FurgyG36 January 14th, 2008 00:58

HOLD IT! lol found this on their home page:

"Everything on this site have pass the border regulation and All items on this site are conform to Canadian rules and laws of the land."

Guns potentially not in Canada? This seems to be the case, so either hes got the proper licensing to operate or hes somehow avoided the legal mumbo jumbo allowing him to make lower prices. Or im totally wrong and he means that all the guns he has in stock are legal to pass over the border and are already here...I dunno someone else make sense of it cuz im a retard.

gvanzeggelaar January 14th, 2008 00:59

I actually emailed if the guns were in Canada and he still has to get back to me. I saw that to. I was one click away from buying kjw M9 but chickened out. I'm going to let someone else test it like No_Way

FurgyG36 January 14th, 2008 01:05

i mean im sure ordering is legit n all but im not so sure hes got his shit in order. so he may not last long like buyairsoft did before they got pwned lol

Ronan January 14th, 2008 01:23

What seller say and is are very different :)

surebet January 14th, 2008 01:28

Number resolves to a Bell cellphone (not surprised).

Anyone call him yet? I'm thinking to myself, but I don't want to harrass him being the fifth guy this hour to call him.

No_Way January 14th, 2008 03:52

Wait and see !

Ordered a ''thing'' right now and got fast service (order,reply, problem, payment)

When i'll get my stuff, i'll update. For now, don't try to fear me !

Like he said, the site is not totally fonctional so, just wait a little bit ! :)

Edit : Will make a review when completed !

Moderate January 14th, 2008 04:23

Oh please be legit...the amount of JG selection on this website is astounding, and at these prices I'm in love :)

Drake January 14th, 2008 04:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 613538)
Why not you? And its on my to do list for Monday.

Because I wasn't the one saying "Someone should call", and because there unfortunately isn't a single thing on that site that I'd buy, so I can't say I care much.

Ronan January 14th, 2008 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 614963)
Because I wasn't the one saying "Someone should call", and because there unfortunately isn't a single thing on that site that I'd buy, so I can't say I care much.

So me proposing someone should call to see if its legit was bad? lol having a bad month there buddy? :p

Oh and theirs nothing on that website that interests me, i'm already geared up, but if it can help someone then thats good enough for me.

I still haven't seen you at a game Drake. Will i see you this 19th at the Mill?

Drake January 14th, 2008 07:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 614972)
I still haven't seen you at a game Drake.

Funny, I've seen you at a game (and I have witnesses) :D

Ronan January 14th, 2008 07:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 614977)
Funny, I've seen you at a game (and I have witnesses) :D

Geez you could have come and say hi :(

Greylocks January 14th, 2008 07:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by FurgyG36 (Post 614864)
HOLD IT! lol found this on their home page:

"Everything on this site have pass the border regulation and All items on this site are conform to Canadian rules and laws of the land."

Guns potentially not in Canada? This seems to be the case, so either hes got the proper licensing to operate or hes somehow avoided the legal mumbo jumbo allowing him to make lower prices. Or im totally wrong and he means that all the guns he has in stock are legal to pass over the border and are already here...I dunno someone else make sense of it cuz im a retard.

My call, it's bullshit. If you cant tell, check that website again. Check the professional look, the spelling, the fantastic contact options, how the site is built. Then tell me you believe that person has the right permits, or can afford them?
If you buy that load of crap, I got an idea: send me your cash. I'll give you the same promises and results they will, but my spelling will be better and I can prove my age.

LeGROS January 14th, 2008 11:44

shootsoft.ca
 
HI all!


Did know there was a thread on shootSOFT, because for sure I will be here to respond sooner!!

Almost all of you have sent me question via email, all of you got an answer back, and few got a call at there home! There is in 3 weeks more than 20 guns sold and ship around Canada! I did show up here before, and did not want threads on ASC on are store, because the site is again in beta test!! We also don't have the time to keep are inventory high - We place are command and it already sold before it come here!!

Yes there is mist spelling on are web site!! I ask Geoff if he could help me with that!! French is my first language, I'm not a pro when it time to write in English! This is also why I did not announce shootSOFT before!

It not also my full time job and it take a lot of time to put in place this kind of store. Right now, like it said on the website, the delay is around 10 open days for the delivery! If the order could not be ship for any reason in that delay we will refund the order automatically and call the customer when we will be ready to ship!

Yes the phone number is my personal cell phone!! I’m sure you will understand the fact I have children, and they will not understand your question! OScommerce is a power full script for webstore, that why you retrieve the same template in a lot of store! Icilemonde.com is one of a lot off my website, like scout.qc.ca who is a forum for French animator!

No_way was the 3th member from ASC to order from shootSOFT! Is order was ship in less than 48hrs.

shootSOFT, will not have high brand AEG like TM, CA or Systema, there other store who are very good in that! We try to have different inventory from them. We also want to make are sale to beginners who don’t want to spend 700$ on a AEG, and for others who would like to have a second or third AEG for a good price! Right now company like Jing Gong make real good clone for the price range!

If you have trouble with your order! Did you see how it easy to retrieve my home addresses and phone!! You have it here in this thread more than 3 times!!, As you said before, more there will be store like shootSOFT, better it is for Airsoft!

Thank for reading me!

Christian

wKnight January 14th, 2008 12:20

Well that explains the spelling and grammer...

If you don't mind me asking, who do you guys import with?

Crunchmeister January 14th, 2008 13:08

As soon as the domain registration came back as being from Quebec, the spelling and grammar errors should have been pretty obvious to everyone.

I say to give the guy a break here. Let's see how his track record is before we jump on him calling shenanigans here. It's good to see another retailer offering at least decent, very upgradeable starter products at a fair price. It sure beats the clearsoft schlock peddled by buyairsoft.ca and the other sources, and better than the ass-raping that we get from the 2 big retailers on these same starter products. I welcome more competition like this.

That being said, with the state of the law on the subject, the longevity of this venture may be fuzzy, but in the meantime, lets just see how it all goes before we jump to conclusions.

Greylocks January 14th, 2008 14:06

Unfortunately, when it comes to websites, people WILL jump to conclusions based on what they can read/see. Just like I did. I wont apologize for calling it as I could see it. Appearance and the written word is everything when online.

It would be important if you could find a friend to revise your site. That will go a long way to make things better for your business.

LeGROS January 14th, 2008 17:28

That's why I did not want to show to ASC members shootsoft.ca!

Again TX all of you who PM me and others wrote me encouragement!!

Au plaisir!!

Christian

Crunchmeister January 14th, 2008 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greylocks (Post 615179)
Unfortunately, when it comes to websites, people WILL jump to conclusions based on what they can read/see. Just like I did. I wont apologize for calling it as I could see it. Appearance and the written word is everything when online.

It would be important if you could find a friend to revise your site. That will go a long way to make things better for your business.

I wholeheartedly agree. Before a site goes public, particularly one geared to business, it's best to have the whole thing proof read for spelling and gramatical errors. It tends to leave people with the impression you got. However, since you obviously speak French as well, seeing a domain name registered in Quebec should have probably given it away that most of the errors on the site were common Frenglish. But yes, I do agree and can see how it looks bad on the site operator, especially in a business such as this there shady characters are more than willing to take your money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeGROS (Post 615343)
That's why I did not want to show to ASC members shootsoft.ca!

Again TX all of you who PM me and others wrote me encouragement!!

Au plaisir!!

Christian

Well, I wish you the best of luck with your business, and hope that you manage to stay online and service the Canadian airsoft community. But Greylocks is right. Most people, from ASC or otherwise, may be turned off by seeing these errors. My recommendations would be to get this fixed ASAP and it will avoid a lot of initial negative reaction.

skalnok January 14th, 2008 17:56

now that you have posted in this thread i trust your site quite a bit more .

untouch January 14th, 2008 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeGROS (Post 615343)
That's why I did not want to show to ASC members shootsoft.ca!

Again TX all of you who PM me and others wrote me encouragement!!

Au plaisir!!

Christian

eille pas probleme pis bonne chance legros tien ton nom en buiseness

sait bon de voir des distibuteur pour les debutant lol


hey guys i cant spenn to.... i m french :razz: lol

ww2warrior January 14th, 2008 17:57

I recently order an JG mp5 Navy full metal from Shootsoft and I'm totally satisfied by the customer service. LeGros is serious in his buisness and I know him personnally (we are playing airsoft together since a lilttle while).

temple47 January 14th, 2008 21:12

I decided to order the JG HK416 from shootsoft.ca so far so good :D. But the paypal system for me hasnt been working for some reason.

FurgyG36 January 14th, 2008 21:49

so the consensus is now that its all good and to order away?

No_Way January 15th, 2008 01:09

Like he said, he can't get a full inventory right but on my side my order was shipped in less than 48 hours.

Got problem with Paypal 2 at first but finally working go on Paypal site on the troubleshooting section.

My review will follow when i'll get my stuff.

Like LeGros said the site isn't completed yet. Just wait for the real opening !

You'll be be more than happy with the customer service and price.

LeGROS January 15th, 2008 07:17

The good trouble your giving me is with the inventory!! Just yesterday with this thread I got more order from ASC member than I have with regular command for 2 weeks!

It's will be has 10 open days for the shipping as it write down on the site and it said before!

TX again all of you!

Christian

Greylocks January 15th, 2008 09:37

All I hope for you is that you take the criticism, and the reactions, as a test to find out how to make your site better.

LeGROS January 15th, 2008 11:58

Dont worry... if not

I should not be here!!

I receive so many proposition for help from you guys... I'm impress of ASC members!

Tx again all!

Christian

Styrak January 15th, 2008 12:39

I just have to say, nice selection! Decent prices!

Greylocks January 15th, 2008 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by FurgyG36 (Post 615610)
so the consensus is now that its all good and to order away?

Seems to be, when he's open. Please note the big 18+ sign on his front page. That's something you'll have to arrange on your side.

mack_silent January 16th, 2008 02:48

http://www.shootsoft.ca/store/catalo...products_id=81
http://www.shootsoft.ca/store/catalo...products_id=68

Anyone own either of these items? I've heard good things about the JG g36, but have never heard of the 'Well' L96 sniper rifle with bipod.

Anyone know approx FPS for the L96?

Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw January 16th, 2008 04:29

YouTube - Airsoft Reports Quality Review- WELL L96 Sniper Rifle

and

YouTube - WELL L96 Firing Report

These videos show the gun being chronied and a detailed review of the rifle.

mack_silent January 16th, 2008 05:08

Excellent, Thank you.

I have also read the review of the L96 Warrior 1 from the review section, while not the exact same model it seems to be quite similiar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock 'N' Roll Outlaw (Post 616594)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=we_8oUdhUOs

and

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FtdRjlX3jF8&feature=related

These videos show the gun being chronied and a detailed review of the rifle.


wey ferro January 16th, 2008 05:14

why does everyone and their mom want to start a airsoft retailer in canada?

mack_silent January 16th, 2008 05:21

My guess would be one of 3 things;

1. To make $$$
2. To bring more airsoft into Canada, thus furthering the range of sport.
3. To see if they can.

But really... Mainly # 1.

kalnaren January 16th, 2008 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by wey ferro (Post 616600)
why does everyone and their mom want to start a airsoft retailer in canada?

Yes. I would love to start an airsoft retailer. However, I'm not delusional, so I'm not going to even entertain the idea.

ww2warrior January 16th, 2008 18:39

Well there's people who starts a buisness without any knowledge in airsoft imports/selling. Thats not the case here.

I had the chance to hold the L96 in my hands and I can say it's a really decent gun for the prize. Accuracy is pretty good too.

Danke January 16th, 2008 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by wey ferro (Post 616600)
why does everyone and their mom want to start a airsoft retailer in canada?

Because my Mom's crazy, she'll pop a cap in you!

Styrak January 16th, 2008 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by wey ferro (Post 616600)
why does everyone and their mom want to start a airsoft retailer in canada?

Why not? Everyone here should be all for it. More retailers mean more selection and lower prices.

Qlong January 17th, 2008 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Styrak (Post 617062)
More retailers mean more selection and lower prices.

If this keeps up, we're going to have a perfect competitive market soon! :D

kalnaren January 17th, 2008 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qlong (Post 617703)
If this keeps up, we're going to have a perfect competitive market soon! :D

Or CBSA is going to get REALLY pissed and tell the RCMP to clamp down :p

Crunchmeister January 17th, 2008 13:47

I don't think enough retailers will pop up to really affect prices all that much, at least in the short term. In order for A&A or 007 to have any incentive to drop their prices, there will have to be more competition offering the same products they are offering.

For the time being, 007 and A&A have only each other as competition. They offer a wide selection of brands and models geared at all levels of players. While I welcome and support LeGros with shootsoft, his current line of products is geared at entry-level players. And when you consider the price of, say, the GBBs, they're not significantly cheaper than A&A. ($275 for a KJ M9 at shootsoft, $283 at A&A). Shootsoft's CYMA AEGs are only on average about $15 cheaper than A&A. That's not enough to really make the market more competitive.

But it is enough to give buyers more options and brands, particularly in the low-end, but decent quality starter market, where A&A come up short in terms of selection. A&A seem to sell a lot of the Palco Firepower guns that tend to be really shitty guns that break down easily. Shootsoft carries a decent selection of JG guns, which are of much better quality, and has a better selection than A&A.

And Shootsoft also carries DBoys, which A&A doesn't have. From the research I've done, Dboys seems to make damn good starter guns for a good price, including some nice all-metal guns, and those aren't available anywhere else in Canada, at least from online retailers.

So having more choice is a good thing, but I doubt that in the short term it will make much of a difference in terms of lowering prices across the board. That would only happen if all retailers were carrying the same lines of products or many more retailers popped up offering products that the others carried at cheaper prices. That would force the others to have to either match the lower prices or beat them in order to compete.

And yes, I did pretty much leave 007 out of this, since Ken doesn't carry any of the low end brands the other 2 carry other than KJW GBBs, and IMO, 007s prices are way too high. Besides, he hasn't had them in stock for some time now, so it doesn't really apply. The only real competion shootsoft.ca has at the moment is A&A. That's not enough to make a real difference. At least not in the short term.

Blacksheep January 17th, 2008 17:26

I have just ordered a Jing Gong full-metal M5-navy AEG (071) that I intend to use as a back-up weapon. Christian is a great guy to deal with and he is very responsive to email questions. I'll post my thoughts on the M5 when it arrives in about 5 days from now. From what I have read they are a good bang for the buck. No pun intended. LOL

Affliction January 17th, 2008 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister (Post 617764)
IMO, 007s prices are way too high

What?

AA's prices are quite a bit higher than Ken's. Ken is a great guy and his prices have stayed consistent throughout the years. There hasn't really been any 'cheaper' sources of airsoft aside from ASCA.
-VM

ThunderCactus January 17th, 2008 21:06

Damn this thread is hilarious lmao

Crunchmeister January 17th, 2008 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by VipaMave (Post 618160)
What?

AA's prices are quite a bit higher than Ken's. Ken is a great guy and his prices have stayed consistent throughout the years. There hasn't really been any 'cheaper' sources of airsoft aside from ASCA.
-VM

Umm... you're picking a small series of words out of my sentence there and making it sound like I said something else... my FULL quote in its proper context was:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crunchmeister
Ken doesn't carry any of the low end brands the other 2 carry other than KJW GBBs, and IMO, 007s prices are way too high.

I was directly comparing the price of KJW pistols between A&A, shootsoft and 007. Ken's KJW prices are significantly higher.

KJW M9
Shootsoft: $275
A&A: $283
007: $350

KJW P226
A&A: $294
007: $375

This is what I was comparing.

In general, 007 is cheaper for AEGs. However, A&A cost less on just about everything.

BBS January 17th, 2008 22:45

007 and A&A are great companies with awesome customer service.
i'm pretty sure Ken @ 007 has the price matching policy.

Andres January 17th, 2008 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducky (Post 618184)
Guess where Ken gets his stock from? Seriously take a guess.

Is this one of those "pepsi vs coke" things where they're both actually the same?

No_Way January 18th, 2008 01:59

Review - Shootsoft.ca
 
About Shootsoft.ca

First, i got a look of this site when Legros put his link in another topic. I get my cash ready and pm'ed him about his site.

The site isn't ready and only a small number of people can buy right now with an invitation : He said !

I received my invitation so i filled what needed to create an account.

After that, i checked all gun one by one, finally finding one i want.

300$ for a Airsoft guns of this quality is a fair enough price. Shipping was 10$

Going to confirm my order, got a problem with Paypal not opening.

I've sent a pm about this problem. Around 2 hours later i got a pm.

I tested again on my working pc...nothing and at girlfriend home...nothing.

I pm'ed him back. He said problem has been discussed with Paypal and he give me a operation to do.

After i worked my cookies (problem) the order was ready.

I got a call from him in the afternoon about my order, he received my payment but not my order.

He leave a message with a phone number, email an what about the order.

I replyed back with my order (name, price, color + shipping)

Shipped my order in a stand up time with an upgraded post service (Expedited to Express)

Got my gun the day after. All things were inside and fonctionnals.

Very pleased by his customer service and reply delay.

Thank You Again !

What are you waiting !

skalnok January 18th, 2008 02:16

sweet.

Quote:

What are you waiting !
and i am waiting for the store to open fully.

Moderate January 18th, 2008 06:13

Any chance of different payment methods in the future for shootsoft?

LeGROS January 18th, 2008 10:19

This weekend we will add credit card with paypal.
What methods do you need??

happytit January 18th, 2008 13:56

LeGROS

i love the DVD rewinder LOL

any sales as of yet? :P

LeGROS January 18th, 2008 14:12

LOL!! Forgot to remove it... It my test item for the script!!

temple47 January 18th, 2008 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeGROS (Post 618632)
This weekend we will add credit card with paypal.
What methods do you need??

I think EMT or dd would make it alot easier for the airsoft community. I personally dislike the wait times assoiciated with paypal.

skalnok January 18th, 2008 14:24

Quote:

I think EMT or dd would make it alot easier for the airsoft community. I personally dislike the wait times assoiciated with paypal.
+1


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