Review - Well Warrior 1 L96 (Noob's perspective)
 

I want to start a disclaimer stating that I realize that this isn't a "real airsoft gun" but for someone that's just starting out... I think it's a heck of a steal and wanted to post a newb's review of my first experiences, in the interest of hopefully saving a lot of headaches/noob threads about it. *If we only knew how to use the search button lol*

I had typed this all out on the Atlantic Airsoft forum, so I'll just link there. If anyone wishes, I could probably import it into this forum for ease of access however.

Hopefully, this will be a help to SOMEONE anyway.


I haven't seen many Warrior 1 reviews, and I don't think any here at all, so I'm going to post my own with the hope of helping someone else decide if this is the rifle for them or not.

Also, if anyone wants me to try tests with this rifle, I'd be more than happy to do what I can with what I have.

Before I start, there's a couple of things I'd like to mention:
I purchased this rifle from A&A Airsoft. The guy that was there was very very helpful, honest, and quick to respond to e-mails. I appreciate that his customer service was so prompt and helpful - great guy.
Also, I'm still a noob to airsoft, so quite honestly this review might be biased with my lack of experience. That being said, I tried to offer as much factual information as opposed to opinion that way you all have the ability to create your own judgment instead of relying on "how I feel" about things.

Ok - On with the Review.

Service - awesome. Mentioned above.

The shipping took a little over a week, but I didn't pay for faster shipping so I got exactly what I expected lol

The packaging was entirely adequate, and did what it was supposed to (It made it to me safely)

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/3941/gun001rt8.jpg

Instead of just letting it sit there, I decided I wanted to see what was inside ;-)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3710/gun002yj0.jpg

"WTF" Was my initial thought: I ordered the Well Warrior 1... not this Mauser SR thing. (Honestly, I was a little put off by it... ) I didn't quite know how I felt entirely though, and it looked exactly like the Warrior 1 so I decided to open it up and take a look.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7402/gun003eh2.jpg

Well, it LOOKS like a Warrior 1... so I took a little closer inspection to see what details would lead me to believe it is.

I didn't take pics of when I took the trigger assembly apart, but I did shoot this:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6395/gun005ny2.jpg

After closer inspection, I was relieved to know that it actually is the exact same 3rd party/china replica. Didn't actually SAY Warrior 1 on it, but everywhere I check has the *EXACT* same parts and labeling, so I'm satisfied that I am getting what I asked/paid for.

In more detail of what actually came with this rifle:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7879/gun004bg0.jpg

The only thing I'm not showing there is the mounting clamps for the scope (at this point I didn't realize that I didn't have them there until I went to mount the scope and couldn't find them anywhere.)

What we're looking at is 1 Mag, (Capacity say 23, I can get 25 in but haven't really pushed it beyond that), cleaning tube (plastic rod), barrel assembly, stock, scope, bipod, allen/hex keys, speed loader with L96 mag extension, strap.

My thoughts on these items:

Mag: Metal, solid, and works. Simple, I like it.
Cleaning tube: It's a plastic rod. I'll probably get an actual cleaning rod or pipe cleaner or something that will do a better job, however it'll get stuck bb's out of there if I ever get any (here's to hoping I don't)
Barrel assembly: Metal. Heavy Metal. I'll talk about it more later.
Stock: It's plastic which is fine... It's a very solid plastic which I like. I think I might prefer a metal one, but it's heavy enough as it is, and I do find that it's well balanced so it's pretty easy to carry.
Bipod: I have an opinion on that later too
Allen keys: Yes - they're metal too lol (They work, whatever)
Speed loader: Nice - I didn't have one of these before now - holds around 90 rounds and seems to work well enough on all of my guns :)
Strap: Wow - the strap is awesome! BUT: The metal brackets are garbage. They're a thin, cheap metal and look like they could come off at any time. Honestly, the straps nice, but I wouldn't trust the mounting clips whatsoever. I could see the gun go flying in the middle of a game... My advice: "File 13" it. (Throw away)
BB's: Yeah - no markings... no weight, no way to tell if they'd jam up the gun. I saved them for my handgun, but I doubt I'll even use them for that. (Toss away for most of you I imagine)

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8648/gun010gn1.jpg

So here it is, fully assembled.

Initial thoughts:

HUGE. I didn't expect it to be this big. I mean, I knew it was a larger rifle, but this is really massive and pretty heavy too. Around 8-9 lbs... very solid feel honestly.

What's metal: The entire internal trigger assembly is metal, just the external casing is plastic. The trigger itself is also metal, except the dual inner trigger which needs to be pressed to allow the actual trigger to be pulled. (It could be metal, and I just can't tell, but it looks and feels slightly different than the rest of the materials. I could be just crazy though)

The entire barrel itself is metal, and so are the scope mounts. The scope is also metal, and seems to be pretty good... Standard 3-9x40 scope that came with the rifle. The stock is plastic, with very solid rubber parts, and doesn't feel flimsy at all. I wouldn't want to drop this rifle, but I feel confident that if I did, it would be totally fine.

The BiPod is also metal, though I'm not very impressed with the quality of the bipod. I mean, it works, yes, but it's just very... flimsy? Once it's attached to the front stock of the gun, it's well in place, and as I understand it, it's supposed to be able to flex a little so you can aim, etc... Maybe I guess I'm not used to what a good-quality one is like so I can't make a direct comparison. I just thought it would be more solid than it is.

I did take this rifle apart and one of the issues that other people have had is that the barrel spacers are often misplaced (slide around) which can have a negative impact on their accuracy. I did disassemble the barrel and removed the brass barrel (noticing several things along the way that I'll mention) and the spacers were definitely misaligned. I used some tape to make sure they don't slide along the inside of the tube, and put everything back together:
Success :) (I was able to hit stuff just fine)

So far my initial thoughts were good... but I was having this nagging issue: I couldn't set up the scope for the life of me - I just couldn't get it to sit properly or aim right.

Well - here's where I'm going to fully admit my "noobness" for airsoft. When I assembled this rifle, the accuracy was horrible. I started troubleshooting, trying to find out why:

I took apart the entire gun and discovered a few things (The barrel spacers being the first issue, but I fixed that)
The hopup, which sucks by the way, was just a little piece of rubber, being pushed down by a round clamp that is adjusted with a female hex screw.
Does it work, sure, but not very well - it's quite inconsistent and I couldn't figure out why!

After more searching, I realized that it was actually crooked! So I took apart the hopup and did my best to straighten things out. I have a Taurus 24/7 springer that uses "V-hop Technology" and it seems to work really well... I don't know why they didn't use that instead, but I DO know something that I'd like to upgrade later on... that before using this one, I didn't think makes any difference.

Anyway, I fixed the hopup the best I could, adjusted the spacers, cleaned out the inner barrel of any grease/grime/debris, and put things back together.

So it started shooting VERY straight... I was extremely impressed.

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I wasn't impressed at all with the scope however. The gun would shoot perfectly straight without the scope at all, but when I actually USED the scope, the scope was aimed WAY to the left... I couldn't figure it out. Also, the windage/elevation adjustments didn't seem to do anything either.

This is where my noob-ness to guns comes in: I had the scope mounted wrong. The top has writing on it saying that it's a 3-9x40 scope... well, I had that on my LH side. (The whole scope was rotated counter-clockwise 90 degrees)

Once I realized this, I adjusted, put it back and suddenly everything was finally working *EXACTLY* the way it's supposed to. In fact, from about 30 feet *which isn't much, I know* I could not only hit a very specific target, but I could hit it several times precisely. Let me show you what I mean:

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1219/gun013pk7.jpg

This target is about a foot tall, and it's got a kind of sticky surface so that when you shoot it, bb's stick and then roll to the tray below.

Well, I was shooting bb's on it, and kind of doing a "robin hood" type deal where I'd split the previous bb in half, with another BB.

From 30 feet, hitting a 6mm bb reliably seems impressive to me. Maybe it's expected from a standard rifle and I'm easily impressed... :D I'm interested in doing longer-range shots...

Okay... because of my apartment building situation, unfortunately I don't have a range longer than 30 or so feet in any given direction without shooting out a window (which I'm not about to go and do) so I went right to speed tests. I have vids for those, using the poor man's chrono.

Before I get to that, I want to show that target I was using after shooting it less than 50 times with the L96:

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/1860/gun017jo8.jpg

I have other guns, but they max out at around 315-320fps, so when I saw this I was like... !!! :o
All I could do at the time was giggle thinking about how powerful and accurate this gun was lol (I didn't even care the target's broken, I'll buy a new one and just reinforce it better before using it) And needless to say, the wall behind it has several NASTY dents where I've shot straight through the target. I'll have to fix that before I move out lol

Okay, moving on to the chrono vids.

Firstly, this is my first "real" airsoft gun and even that's a cheap Chinese "faux" rifle, but it's more real than any of the other airsoft guns I have; I will fully admit to being a noob in this category. However, I'm a reasonably intelligent person and would like to believe that I am still able to contribute to this community, and I will eventually become less of a noob with more exposure to the sport.

Secondly - The quality sucks because I'm using my girlfriends camera (Some Canon S3 IS zoomy camera thing. I just know it takes pretty pics and video lol) so I apologize in advance - hopefully it works well enough.

Lastly - I have a DAMN squeaky floor and didn't really realize how bad it was until after having shot the video. I apologize for that too. lol

Okay, so here's the first vid:

(These vids were encoded with Xvid, however were sent to Youtube so they should be automatically converted to be compatible - let me know if any of you can't view it for some reason)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFDXbDuJ38o

I wasn't surprised at all to see that it had gone through both sides, especially after what it did to the other target I had previously used.
I had also mentioned in the video that there were some online forums/resources I used. This is the main one that gave me the idea to do the poor man's chrono and how to do it.

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/review...php?product=71


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Se71RO8A0

This was the bottom shot - based on other peoples results, I expected it to go through, but not totally dent the top of the can. I was starting to like what I saw here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PojZNcI-VrI

I'll be honest - I was disappointed, simply because I figured it might go through the bottom edge... only to realize that I wasn't 100% sure that I fully understood where exactly the bottom edge was. It was worth a shot either way, and made one hell of a dent (on both the can AND the BB)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFqI6o8dg78

Here's basically what happened here:

I felt I needed to explain the details of the bb's, so I started with that, and then decided I'll do all 3 shots in 1 vid.
I wasn't entirely sure exactly where to shoot sometimes, so I tried to explain enough and if someone can update me, I'll re-take some shots to try and provide more accurate results.

Shot 4: In the vid, I was extremely surprised that it didn't go through. Did it on a different can offline, and it worked just fine. (Notice the silence while I sat there going WTF lol)
Shot 5: Wasn't sure it was the right spot, but it left a massive hole so that was cool.
Shot 6: I missed somewhat, but I also don't know that it was the right spot I was trying to shoot. It was cool as heck to look at though because you can totally see where it looks like it "pulled" the metal back as it was being fired... very interesting. I didn't at all expect it to go through, but interesting results regardless.

Damn squeaky floor.

The vid cut off after me basically saying "I didn't hit it directly on, and I don't know if we're supposed to or not, but ... "
" but I'm going to post this anyway, and have a look online and see if I can get some clarification for further testing."

And that's when it beeped to say you're done lol

Further testing will follow, including a longer range accuracy test/series of tests, as well as testing for heavier bb's.

IMO, I don't really like using .20 for this gun - it seems almost too powerful for those, so I'm going to get a bunch of .25 from Tristan and see how those work instead. I was also considering going to a .28 or .30, but I'm thinking I want a tightbore barrel first before that happens.

In the end:
Weight - 4.5 of 5 (Heavy enough, but not a burden to hold)
Performance - 4.5 of 5 (I'd give a 5, but I think there's always room for improvement
Accuracy - N/A (I haven't been able to do long-range tests, but as of right now, it would be 5/5 based on my experiences with short-range shots)
Simplicity - 4/5 (Even a noob like myself was able to very easily take it apart and put it together. Just don't ask me to set up a scope lol)
Reliability - N/A (I haven't had it long enough yet, but so far, it's been rock solid.)
Willingness to Recommend - 4.5/5 (For those who are more experienced, you might have preferences about these toys already... but for someone in my shoes who's new, I highly recommend this item)


A&A Airsoft:
Shipping - 4/5 (You get what you pay for - I paid 25$ or something and got it to me in less than 7 business days from Alberta I think it was.)
Customer Service - 5/5 (Awesome. Simply put: Awesome. Fast to respond, honest and makes things happen.)


Final thought:
Awesome gun. I can't say enough. One minor thing I forgot to mention though is make sure you take the little allen key and tighten all the little bolts in the stock. Almost every one was a little loose, and needed just a gentle twist.



If you have suggestions, questions, comments, concerns, etc.. please feel free to message me here, via IM at enigmahack@hotmail.com (MSN) or via PM.

Thanks for reading!

I love on the first video, how you measure the distance to the can, and then promptly cock the gun and move it to a different position. Not that it affects the performance that much, but why measure it before!? Lol.

What do you mean this isn't a real airsoft gun?

I own one of these things and it's 99% compatible with all the laylax upgrades...

Just because something isn't Maruzen doesn't mean it's not actually an airsoft gun.

Yeah man, this is a clone. It's an airsoft gun. Looks pretty decent too.

I was actually going to get one of these at some point. I love the look of the L96. I haven't actually seen them on Mark's site, how much does he charge for them?

Great review, I think I'll get one after reading this.
-VM

Hahaha, I know - What happened is I had the butt stock set up on a popcan and piece of Styrofoam so I could show the distance was less than 2 inches. Then I went to cock it and... couldn't... LOL - Had to end up moving it.

I personally agree with you, I've just seen a LOT of people that are... well less accepting that you and I are. I was trying to humor that audience, while still giving a valid perspective to all other audiences.

Just of curiosity, which part would you recommend upgrading first and where did you go to get those upgrades? I was looking for a Dees Custom 6.01 500mm barrel, but I guess there's still the whole potential issue of getting it across the border. (He was saying that some customs officers see the word airsoft and don't even question, they just get rid of it.)

Thanks for the comment :)

http://www.aasurplus.ca/virtuemart/44.html - down at the bottom. They're 370$ roughly, but IMO worth every penny - ESPECIALLY if they're upgradeable! (I knew some upgrades could be done, just not as many as I've very recently come to find out!)

You won't have trouble importing an inner barrel. It's just a metal pipe. I don't think Dees Customs ships to Canada though.

Yeah, I asked - that was the response that I received though.

I'll have to look for another tight bore somewhere though - I've heard that the 6.03mm Prometheus is a decent buy... but some seem to think it jams sometimes. I guess it depends on what's being put through it.

I'm open to suggestions, but sounds like I might be on the right track already

Oh, it seems I've forgotten to ask: Is the outer barrel threaded? Its not that I like silencers, but I have a Muzzle Velocity Reducer I need to put to good use :)

-VM

Upgrade it so you can downgrade it with a velocity reducer? Haha.

Field restrictions... field restrictions... field restrictions.

;(
-VM

What everyone is curious is performance, performance and performance.

Personally i couldn't give less of a shit what my sniper looks like (VSR, camo paint, and gun ghillie), what i do care about is performance :)

Doesn't matter if your gun looks superb if you can't hit your target.

Please please please do a review the performance of the gun. I doubt its going to be great but Amos stated its compatibly with top of the line aftermarket parts which is very important.

Overall nice review, it's nice to see that *some* clones actually have a nice looking finish, but lets see about performance :)

I hope I'm not sounding too vain, commenting only on aesthetics but I've read tons of reviews of the Well L96 and I've yet to see a bad review. So far the verdict is:

PRO
-Cheap(er)
-Good FPS
-Good Accuracy, comparable to high-quality airsoft.
-Comes with accessories (albeit low quality)
-Computability with the Maruzen counter-part's upgrades
-Great value in general

CON
-Feels a cheap, body is clearly plastic-y
-Lack of quality control

Not that I think the accuracy and FPS sucks (I'm sure its great stock) but as far as I can tell, most people buy snipers and heavily upgrade them anyways--Replacing almost all of the stock internals.

It is a great gun for the value, though ~400-ish is sort of pushing the envelope when TM guns are only approximately $100 more. Other (crapsoft) retailers I've seen retail the WELL L96 for approximately $300-320 CAD.
-VM

Hey everyone - to address some of the questions:

Yes the outer barrel is threaded. If you remove the tip, there's a definite threading that looks like it might be able to be used to attach a silencer.

With regards to a performance review, I will DEFINITELY do a performance review when I get an opportunity to go somewhere that I can have the space I need.

Again, I agree that OTB it won't be that impressive, HOWEVER that being said it is compatible with after-market parts which means upgrades are a welcome thing.
(As a sidenote, I say OTB it's not impressive, but I was totally giddy seeing that I could literally split BB's from 30 feet away... again that's just me being new to the sport. I might be disappointed from further distances, who knows.)

I also agree that the quality control is inconsistent, however I was fortunate with this gun that it was decent overall and I didn't see any obvious flaws whatsoever.

Also the body is very plastic, but I'm sure there's an "upgrade" of sorts for that too lol

400$ IS definitely pushing the envelope as VM was mentioning, and truth of the matter be told that I was considering getting it from buyairsoft.ca instead of A&A airsoft... but A&A had so many great reviews where buyairsoft was still new.

That and A&A actually HAD them in stock LOL

On the edge of the threshold - yes, but consider this:

320 + tax from buyairsoft, as well as 35$ shipping.
360 taxes in from A&A, and 28$ shipping.

Not actually *THAT* much of a difference ;-)

I'll keep everyone posted when I get a chance to do some more longer-distance shooting/testing.

How's the sear quality?

The sear seems to be pretty good - it's not of any discernible hi-quality metal, but it seemed solid enough when I was tinkering with it. I definitely know why I'd want a zero trigger however, as regular wear and tear could eventually have an impact.

Unfortunately I don't have any other previous experiences to work with when it comes to sear/trigger mechanisms, however based on my personal observation, it doesn't look like it'll break anytime soon :)

Don't worry about parts. I order very many parts and they cross no problem. Most places in asia label 'em as "RC CAR PARTS"

Get the PDI hopup chamber then you can use standard AEG barrels :)

By the way; The one you have is not a Well Warrior 1, It's a Both Elephant gun... They're actually the exact same gun coming out of the exact same factory :P

To put a silencer on you'll have to buy an adapter... I still haven't gotten to the spring / spring-guide assembly, I'm curious to see if it's a 7 or a 9mm... And I'm probably going to have to trim my spring.. With the addition of my new tightbore barrel I'm estimating I'm pushing 550 FPS

I'd tend to agree with this too. People often tend to be 'brand snobs' even though they may not realize it. They automatically look at something lower end and dismiss it, as I've seen many do to guns like this one and the Aftermath Kraken. Yes, they're cheap guns, but their compatibility and cheap price means that for the price of a stock brand name piece, you can get one of these cheaper guns and have yourself a heavily upgraded weapon that will easily outperform the stock brand name counterpart, and cost about the same.

I don't think that there are replacement bodies for the L96 =/.

-VM

Okay, good to know about customs - I know buying the entire gun definitely wouldn't work, but I'm really excited about upgrading this thing :)

How were you able to tell it wasn't the Warrior 1? Interesting that they're identical in every aspect however. I remember reading on the buyairsoft.ca site that their "warrior 1" wasn't the "lesser quality Both Elephant Gun" - If they're identical, maybe I'm mistaken that there really isn't any difference whatsoever. *shrugs*

I didn't know I'd need an adapter for a silencer *I didn't actually want one, but noticed that the tip was threaded. Shame on me for making assumptions lol*

So it sounds like you're quite knowledgeable in this field... May I ask you a question besides the one I'm asking right now? lol

I'm considering different upgrades at the moment. I'm not so interested in upgrading the speed - 475fps *approx* is MORE than fast enough for now I think. I'm mostly concerned with accuracy.

My inclination of upgrade in this case is 2 things: Hop-up+hop-up chamber, and a tight-bore barrel.

Do you have any suggestions if I'm right in this case, and if so, any suggestions on what I might consider looking for with the goal of accuracy in mind?

I still think I want a Dee's custom tight-bore 6.01, and I've read a few things about different hop-up systems, but I'm looking for something that would be compatible with my Warr.. uhh, Elephant gun? lol

I'm a noob too, but from the research I've done and from the slight upgrading I've done on my guns, it seems that a good hopup and tightbore barrel are pretty much what you need to get good accuracy.

great review! like the rest of them said, it IS an airsoft gun. i pretty good one at that. i know i plan on getting one later, down the road, for winter gaming.

Feels the same as the higher quality ones, All it's missing the stipling.

You're gonna paint it anyway, so throw on some skateboard grip tape and you're golden.

The PDI hopup chamber is a godsend... Although it takes a good 2 hours to put together it's awesome. You can adjust the bb going left and right, so every accuracy problem can easily be fixed by that.

BE and Warrior 1 guns are made in the same factory, Buyairsoft doesn't know shit about dick (RIP tourettes guy).

The only difference is that the Warrior 1 has that on the side, and they use an ungodly poweful spring (sometimes in the range of 500 FPS +)

Have you handled both? I am trying to decide between the Maruzen and the WELL versions. The only thing stopping me from buying the WELL L96 is the concept that the plastic body may be thinner and prone to breakage.

It would be helpful to know if both plastic bodies feel the same (In terms of thickness and durability).
-VM

I've been reading a lot on the PDI hopup chamber... Looks sweet. The one thing that I notice that keeps getting mentioned is that I'll want an AEG Tightbore barrel. I figured I was getting one anyway, just not an AEG barrel - what are some things I should consider when getting an inner barrel?

Also there's mention that the bucking doesn't come with the PDI, so I'd have to invest in that as well.

I'm looking around and doing more research, but looks like the PDI is a decent upgrade for me :)

Trust me. You wont have problems with the plastic on the well one. I've taken my completely apart and modified it heavily.

The plastic is as robust as TM plastic, I wouldn't be afraid if some one took a 500 FPS gun and shot the body point blank.

Protip: fill the body with low-expand foam insulation when you get it, It makes a huge difference in the noise and gives it a nice weight.

At the price of a maruzen one you could get a 100% upgraded Well L96, and still have enough money left over to start another project.

Here's what I've got in mine.

I've got an Angel 6.03 650mm Tight bore for PSG-1
PDI hopup chamber
RH75 hop bucking.

It's turned my some what accurate bolt action into something that could easily get a 4 inch group at 100 feet. (keep in mind with the Tight bore barrel your FPS is going to jump considerably)

Good tightbore (long also), good hop up, good scope and consistant airflow. 500fps means nothing if each shots varies to much. Oh and high grade BB's.

Did you add a different barrel or silencer modification? 650mm seems pretty long to me ;-)

I haven't measured mine, but it was my understanding that I had a 500mm/510 inner barrel *shrugs*

Looks like I'll have to get the measuring tape out lol

edit: I found out that the default barrel length internally is 498mm, so in theory 495-505mm should be just fine.

Just another review with range specification for the ones who care about !:p

18 year old Amos,
There are some big difference between the Both Elephant L96 (mars13) and the WELL L96. Before purchasing my L96 (WELL- from BuyAirsoft.Ca), I noticed this same little disclaimer that was mentioned earlier about their version being the WELL Warrior, and not the "lesser quality Both Elephant brand". This made me start searching, and sure enough, through MANY different reviews, the main two differences between these two DIFFERENT GUNS, manufactured in DIFFERENT FACTORIES are as follows-
Both Elephant L96 to WELL L96-
WELL has a metal support frame under the barrel, Both Elephant's is PLASTIC
(Internals are also constructed with more plastic where the WELL model would be metal).
Both Elephant velocity is typically 100 FPS LESS than the WELL version.

Do your research and get your facts straight before posting false information and obnoxious remarks.

RJ~

P.S. A spell check before posting is also beneficial to making what you have to say actually look worth while.

What does his age have to do with anything in this case?

dd

According to your research, than my gun is definitely a WELL, not a BOTH because the FPS is definitely more than 400fps and I do have metal support frames and bracketing in my stock.

While this could be true, I'm just putting out there what I've found from my gun :)

You created an account to post this???

http://toys4daddy.com/catalog/images/DSCN5238.JPG
(Above) Warrior 1

http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2...e-TD90938-.jpg
(Above) Both Elephant

http://www.rsov.com/images/gun_0087.jpg
(Above) AGM

I don't recognize the L96 box you've received.
*edit* Actually I just found out which L96 you have. You have a Cybergun Mauser SR--I'm not sure of the manufacturer. If you selected and paid for a Warrior 1, you should have gotten the Warrior 1--With the appropriate box as well. They're all made in the same factory, which explains the similar styrofoam padding for the boxes.
-VM

Yeah, that's what my thoughts were as well. It SEEMS to be the warrior 1 or at least perfectly identical, I do almost want to talk to A&A airsoft just to ask why I didn't get an authentic Warrior 1 when that's what I paid for... I just don't really wanna send mine back (I LOVE IT TOO MUCH) lol

*By love I mean really enjoy, and by too much I mean in a non-sexual gun-humping way.

Or maybe I do. *

:D


**edit**

Looking at the product advisory that I got with the rifle, it's EXACTLY the same as the warrior 1 product advisory. Doesn't mean anything, just interesting to note.

I'm betting you he's from buyairsoft.ca :)


Who gives a shit about the body? It's the barrel, hopup and cylinder that matters.

A "METAL SUPPORT FRAME" means nothing. There's nothing that needs to supported, This is an airsoft gun, not a bridge. And yea, The bodies are different. The BE one doesn't have the "WARRIOR 1" engraved into the side. They come with the exact same mags, sling, scope, and rings.

I've worked on both the BE one and the warrior 1. They are 99% identical, 100% identical in the ways that matter.

I've got a silencer.

Without it, the barrel stick out a good 5 inches.

Nice... have pics? ;-)

Just waiting for the silencer adapter to arrive... If you want I can take a picture of it sitting on there :P

y'know.. I'll go do that right now.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8742/img0996lg0.jpg
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/455/img0997qm6.jpg

This baby's damn near 5 feet tall.

Damn dude - that's DEAD SEXY!!!

I likey :)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/3108/img0998id2.jpg

Here's without the silencer on :P lol

Edit: since you're gonna be sniping... Want protectors for your scope?

I made myself one that sits in the lense cover thing that it came with :) Click the link in my sig if you're interested.. Just trying to generate enough cash so I can get myself a fully equiped lexan shop (able to do bending, cutting, shaping, ect ect.) :)

3X9, and clarity is good enough :)

I agree - The overall quality of the scope is okay. 3-9x40 is awesome for this rifle, though I personally would want more clarity from the scope. *It's definitely not "unclear", just a little fuzzy around the edges when you zoom in a lot* though that doesn't at all take away from the effectiveness of the weapon.

Keep in mind that it's pretty rare that you'll ACTUALLY be zoomed in fully when using this gun. Most people keep it at 3x and leave it. :)

nice review.

I've been wanting to get a bolt action sniper for a while, just so I have options when I go to games. I've been looking at the JG bar 10 and the l96 that you have just reviewed. So the bar 10 is marui compatible, and just like the marui, should be upgraded for best use and higher FPS, BUT the l96 seems very strong right from the box. I don't know if the l96 will be a better investment, or if the JG bar 10 will be because of it being a good platform for upgrades.

The L96 is strong out of the box, but it is not accurate.

Strength =/= accuracy.

Update:

Seems the L96 that mark sells is not 100% compatible with the maruzen stuff, I bought a silencer adapter only to find out that the Clone L96's threading is the opposite way than the adapter made for the maruzen... This was a really easy fix though, all it took was about 5 minutes of dremeling off the threads of the adapter, then securing it on with some JB weld. Simple.

Newbie's FYI Research

Saw that similar model of the Mauser L96 at http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/mo...?model_id=1488 and it is said to be made by UTG.

To NDAS you should check out www.airsoftretreat.com/reviews/ for the JG Bar-10 and they also reviewed both UTG and AGM versions of the L96. With the teflon mod and shortening of the air brake for JG Bar-10, the reviewer got close to 500fps for a stock rifle.

hey i would like to buy this gun from A&A airsoft, it is my first time on A&A and they dont show up prices of the guns , actually theres 5 in stock, and it said that for price information i got to email them, so thats exactly what ive done now im waiting for the answer but its been like 5 days, im not using outlook but hotmail, cuz it doesnt work on outlook6. Anyway i was wondering how it really work on A&A, i have my account but i cant put item in my cart is it normal? thanks.

Hey DNE2, (stupid question but) did you check your email to activate your account first. Cause I also had the same problem of not seeing the prices and Mark of A&A answered was my account had previleges to see the prices; just sign-in first then all prices are shown to you. My problem was with IE6 which shifted all the items way down on the page when logged-on. If you still can't get the price for L96; it is $368 include GST but, not shipping which is another $30-40.

thanks but my account is really activated, i still have the email to activate my account. i can go in my account to change option or billing adress and checking my cart, but i still cant see prices or put item in my cart its kind of weird. Any idea?

Sorry, I don't and yea it is kind of odd that you can't see the prices and add anything into your cart. I logged-on and added something into my cart, it was working fine so, your best option is to email Mark Anderson at A&A about your account, his response is usually in 24hours.

Hey!

Does anybody know if the Well L96 sold from BuyAirsoft.ca is the Version 1 or the Version 2?

Another question: Should I care if it is the Version 1 or Version 2?

Thanks Guys!

They're product info is old and pretty sure is version 1 but, this is a new shipment for them cause i got a notice of they're arrival. Since this a new shipment it might be version 2 so, best thing to do is email them.

The only major difference while surfing for info between 1(around 450fps) and 2(closer to 500fps) is in fps but, hopefully with stronger internals for version 2 cause of increase in fps.

UPDATE: www.Buyairsoft.ca has changed the profile and price of Well L96; now it's $301 and comes with a scope + 2 mags but, NO BIPOD.

I just want to share a photo of my Well L96 (Warrior 1)
Out of the box, this baby chronoed at 460fps with .25g bb. I already fired over 2,000 rounds in this rifle. I'll chrono this again to check its current fps.
The suppressor is a DIY, made out of several layers of PVC pipes and a small amount of sound absorbing material (foam)

Mine comes in black... I did a little paint job to give it a different look. I'm planning to give it a tune-up. After that, I'll be painting the whole receiver and scope mount with the same "grassland" pattern. :D :D :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2342/...f18059f9_b.jpg

Nice picture, 465 fps out of the box, that very fast!

Question about this. Apparently the Maruzen one has something that indicates when you've loaded the last round from the magazine? Does this thing have that as well?

EDIT:

Ok, after some digging, it does appear that this gun has the empty mag indicator, but it's assembled wrong and needs some modifucking to get working.

Very nice looking L96! I just got mine a few days ago and I just love it! Just waiting to put in my PDi hop-up with tightbore to see how she performs after that, I'll letcha guys know.

Is the trigger box housing the sears plastic? Looks like it in your pics.

Apparently it is plastic on this model, but quite durable. From what I've read around on the 'net there a very few reported incidences of breaking. It's 100% compatible with the metal trigger boxes you can get for Maruzen APS Type 96 rifles though.