airsoft wholesale
 

dose any one know any airsoft companies here in Canada who sells wholesale im wanting to start up a airsoft/military surplus shop

And I assume you have the proper credentials?

Wholesale in Canada is a pipe dream at best, take a few weeks to study the FAQs and read up on the current situation.

Sorry to say but theres already some reputable surplus shops in the Lower Mainland.

Daves Army Surplus and Tactical (sorry only one I know about) and it isn't even that far from maple ridge (New West).

Gorillas (only cause it's in Vancouver (close to me) it doesn't sell airsoft AFAIK)

Etc.

I lol'd at this one!

i know about daves and im getting all the paperwork together im not opining in the lower mainland im getting ready to move up north and iv only found 2 shoppes and there in pg im moving to quesnel im planing on opining there im also going to open up a 4 acre field

maybe a crash course in proper English would help. or else you'll end up naming your store
Army Sirplus.

not trying to start any thing but you try typing while holding a 7 month old kid and if all your going to do is give me negative feedback don't bother posting

Nobody's giving you negative feedback right now... there's been many people saying they're opening a store and whatnot lately and no one has seen anything credible yet, so don't take it personally if we don't take you super seriously at first...

Tell you what; get your credentials, read our FAQ, setup a good business, read our FAQ again, and perhaps look at the top of each page... see the button called Canadian Retailers? Click it. Read some more after that.

Then you will start to have an idea about airsoft and how much of a load of red tape is involved.

As far as typing with a kid in your arms, remember we cant see this. All we have to judge you by is a post written in a hurry that (to us) looks like a kid wrote it. Many kids do try to get into airsoft, so that's how it's seen.

Find enough free time to get your stuff together, then read a lot, and lastly come ask about what you have not found in your research of what we already wrote. Fair enough?

Move to vancouver island to open a surplus store between nanaimo and Victoria theres only one on the island and it sucks .

no one is now but it will happen and for opening the place up iv been slowly working on it for about 5 months it takes allot to start a business but it will be up and when it is it will be posted on here

.. Next he'll be asking for 3000 dollar pre-orders and have his wife come online and bitch @ us >.>

For your question, All the major retailers offer wholesale.

You just need to get approved through them.

But.. Good luck getting airsoft into the country :)

for all the red tape on airsoft in Canada right now to be able to import the guns into Canada you need a license to import prohibited goods since airsoft guns are considered replica firearms it would cost me about 200 bucks every 3 years to be aloud to import the guns them selfs

and there is the negative feedback and all that crap iv read most of these threads and it seams like most of you get off on picking on people and trying to put everyone down i asked a simple question and it couldn't even be answered with respect its just people acting like pricks

If it was this easy there wouldn't be only 2 retailers in canada.

You need a Business Fire Arms license, a license to import them... and a whole bunch of other licenses.

It's not easy... You should stick to legal to import gear instead.

dude shut up seriously I can't really stand seeing another potential new retailer disappear especially if you're potential store will be so close to me.
The only negative feedback people look for is really what you yourself, the seller, says and if you're being a prick a can't handle a few sceptical buyers then really you shouldn't be selling anything at all.

200$ for 3years??

That's 66$ a year!

If 66$ was the only limitation for importing airsoft, I think everyone would be doing just that.

acid punk = flame

I believe you have to be in business for a few years before you can get a BFL.

you need two licenses your firearms business license and in order to get that you have to have a license to run a business and you must meet certain requirements and there is another thing that most people dont know about to import airsoft you must have a contract with a movie company for props

PM me when you have brand new AEG's legally in country.

:) I will buy something from you.

ok how about this you do your stuff and i'll do mine and im done playing this game will a admin delete this thread

well when you do get aegs on hand, please feel free to post here again, and as for referring to people, potientail customers as pricks, dont be suprised if you dont recieve as much buisness as hoped, although some people on these forums can be at sometimes

and as a last thought i dont get mommy and daddy to pay for everything i do things on my own i go to work every day to support my family and to pay for this up coming company you dont like it thats your problem and Amos thank you for the answer but you could've gone without the stupid comment about my wife

but i will post here again when i get everything sorted out

don't take too much offense to what amos says, we had a guy recently get banned for his bad rep for his "retail store" and he literally had his wife come upon the boards to bitch at us. we just don't want a repeat of that.

Amos was referring to another guy, flame, who got banned and then his wife, Athena, came on to chew us out.

Excuse me, I just peed a little from laughing.

Prove me wrong.

someone actually had their wife come online and chew people out

So if you've been researching and trying to set up this business for 5 months, why do you need to ask us who the wholesalers you can buy from are!?

lol let him be, dont make this guy another flame, lets see if he will actually pull through and give us a little more variety for guns, stop scaring/pissing them off ppl!

im just now getting to that point in this and i thought it would be easer to ask and see if anyone knew that way i could get though it quicker so i could get on to the next part of the work

It started here http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=47185 and carried over into his other posts. Just click on his username and you'll be able to read the other threads.

No duff. I did think it was his mom though. He's back and posting though, maybe a bit shell shocked.

Really read back through the threads and pay special attention to the Props Canada thread.

It's almost like the sun rising the threads about "Hi I'm starting my store, please send money and I'll get you set up" turn up with dull regularity. There's another one in Ottawa now, no stock but if you send one dollar to Happy Guy the secret to eternal happiness can be yours.

If you're going to run a business you can't start up based on a couple hundred bucks each from random folks on the net. You have to set up with stock, and system to process and ship orders and a frontage of some sort to build your reputation. You can be as enthusiastic as you want but all the I love airsoft cheerleading won't translate into credability.

there will be about 20 grand going into merchandise and marketing im not getting those cheap pieces of crap some people call airsoft

Sorry had to ditch in this little comment (yes again I miss the good threads as they happen)

but.. Danke lol flame is banned again for 2 weeks. Shell shocked? Nahh he fired off another shell and it came back and hit him this time.

--- anywhoo back on topic.


"there will be about 20 grand going into merchandise and marketing im not getting those cheap pieces of crap some people call airsoft"

Is this serious or a joke? Take the advice of some other people in this thread then sit down and create a business plan. Then read up on everything you're looking at doing... Even if you had 100,000 dollars to throw around, it doesn't mean you'll have a more successful business... it'll just mean that the butt load of money you just spent will turn to dust if/when the business falls through because you didn't research enough beforehand.

If you are serious about this, you will be required to sell stock that is in country. That means mucho money on your end.

An alternative to that would be to get age verified, start small and build from there.

This forum has spawned a few success stories, but many, many more failures.

That was fast, is it a new record?

how many times has flamed been banned

thats the way to do it start small and as your rep gets bigger so can your business

kudos for trying i hope it works out for u acidpunk, i think u should open the store in regina or saskatoon, in saskachewan, i need a place to spend my money lol

... See.. if flame would have listined to us.. this is sort of how it would have turned out.. only.. this guy isn't asking for 3000 dollar pre-orders.

First things first, get age verified, build your reputation on a local level then start moving items.

no this thread needs to be deleted

1. he can t sale airsoft legally!!

Lending or Borrowing Replica Firearms
You cannot sell or give a replica firearm to an individual or to an unlicensed business. However, you can lend a replica firearm to:

a person who borrows it specifically to fulfill their duties or employment in a motion picture, television, video or theatrical or publishing activities; or
a certified instructor who wants to use it to teach the Canadian Firearms Safety Course or the Canadian Restricted Firearm Safety Course.


2. You can t buy legally an airsoft gun!!

Possessing or Acquiring Replica Firearms
As an individual, you may keep any replicas that you owned on December 1, 1998. You do not need a licence to possess a replica firearm and it does not have to be registered. However, you cannot acquire, make or import a replica firearm. If you take a replica firearm out of Canada, you cannot bring it back in.


3. OUPSSS! :confused: here the source!!

Here is some information on how the Firearms Act and Criminal Code apply to replica firearms.


Please....

Well, it's a nice idea, opening another airsoft store in Canada, kudos for thinking about it, but I highly doubt a 19 year old will pull this off. Forgive me for being sceptical, if you do pull it off, congrats, I'll buy a few from you, but I really don't see this going anywhere but to the trash.

I still think airsoft is in a gray area. It's between replicas and realistic looking airguns.

To answer your question specifically there are no airsoft companies in Canada who do wholesale, all airsoft is manufactured in China/Japan/Taiwan and they are all aware of the legality of airsoft in Canada.

If you can pull up the permits to start bringing in the goods internationally the only wall you'll have to jump is finding a way to 'legally' transfer them to the general airsoft public.

Also, it'd be safer to operate an online store plus it'd be alot less of a hassle, with a store you'd need to have security features to ensure safe storage of these 'replicas'

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NO GRAY ZONE!!

The importation of goods of tariff item No. 9897.00.00, 9898.00.00 or 9899.00.00 is prohibited.
L’importation des marchandises des nos tarifaires 9897.00.00, 9898.00.00 ou 9899.00.00 est interdite.



5. Tariff item No. 9898.00.00 reads as follows:

Firearms, prohibited weapons, restricted weapons, prohibited devices, prohibited ammunition and components or parts designed exclusively for use in the manufacture of or assembly into automatic firearms, in this tariff item referred to as prohibited goods . . . .

For the purposes of this tariff item,

. . .

(b) “automatic firearm�, “licence�, “prohibited ammunition�, “prohibited device�, “prohibited firearm�, prohibited weapon, restricted firearm and “restricted weapon� have the same meanings as in subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code . . . .

6. Subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code5 provides that a “prohibited device� includes, among other things, a replica firearm, which is defined as follows:

“replica firearm� means any device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm, and that itself is not a firearm, but does not include any such device that is designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm;
« réplique » Tout objet, qui n’est pas une arme Ã* feu, conçu de façon Ã* en avoir l’apparence exacte — ou Ã* la reproduire le plus fidèlement possible — ou auquel on a voulu donner cette apparence. La présente définition exclut tout objet conçu de façon Ã* avoir l’apparence exacte d’une arme Ã* feu historique — ou Ã* la reproduire le plus fidèlement possible — ou auquel on a voulu donner cette apparence.



7. Section 2 of the Criminal Code defines “firearm� as follows:

“firearm� means a barrelled weapon from which any shot, bullet or other projectile can be discharged and that is capable of causing serious bodily injury or death to a person, and includes any frame or receiver of such a barrelled weapon and anything that can be adapted for use as a firearm;
« arme Ã* feu » Toute arme susceptible, grâce Ã* un canon qui permet de tirer du plomb, des balles ou tout autre projectile, d’infliger des lésions corporelles graves ou la mort Ã* une personne, y compris une carcasse ou une boîte de culasse d’une telle arme ainsi que toute chose pouvant être modifiée pour être utilisée comme telle.



8. Subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code defines “antique firearm� as follows:

“antique firearm� means

(a) any firearm manufactured before 1898 that was not designed to discharge rim-fire or centre-fire ammunition and that has not been redesigned to discharge such ammunition, or

(b) any firearm that is prescribed to be an antique firearm.
« arme Ã* feu historique » Toute arme Ã* feu fabriquée avant 1898 qui n’a pas été conçue ni modifiée pour l’utilisation de munitions Ã* percussion annulaire ou centrale ou toute arme Ã* feu désignée comme telle par règlement.


THE PRESIDENT OF THE CANADA BORDER SERVICES

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14. In order to determine whether the rifles in issue are properly classified under tariff item No. 9898.00.00, the Tribunal must determine if they meet the definition of “replica firearm� under subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code. For the rifles in issue to meet this definition, each one must fulfil three conditions: (1) it must be designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, a firearm; (2) it must not itself be a firearm; and (3) it must not be designed or intended to exactly resemble, or to resemble with near precision, an antique firearm.

A tribunal in Ontario, just this past summer, confirmed that airsoft were Replicas. That makes it a legal precedent.
The laws and restrictions about Replicas apply to airsoft. End of discussion.

Appeals can be made to the courts or the laws can be changed in Parliament, if you have the clout. I dont.

Which Tribunal was this? Link to posted rulings.

It was the case that shut down a Toronto area retailer, I think. Probably buried in the General or Off topic old threads. I dont feel like digging for it.

One of the reasons Vince (6mm imports) went out of business too, it wasn't just his wife wanting him to get a real job, he was sick of the pressure from the government too, last time I talked to him (which was a month or two before he shut down)

Vince shut down due to personal problems and he was also getting no where his supplier since they (the supplier ) was also shut down.

But in any case if you can get through all the hoops and actually have product in ready to ship, I'm sure you'll have buyers from this site.

9898.00.00 is written in such way that it could either include replica firearm as the current interpretation does or exclude all replica firearms from that classification. Right now, CBSA has no reason to re-classify replica firearm, since they're suppose to be illegal to acquire anyways and CITT dismisses all applications for re-classification.