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Tri-Balle November 8th, 2007 23:26

Airsoft/paintball grenade
 
Well you dont have to look any furter, the ultimate hand grenade is now available in the Ottawa/Gatineau region....
this is what it looks like..http://www.tacticalpaintball.ca/prod...th=539_553_615

and this is your price 12.00$
got 20 in stock....let me now if you are interested.
Later

SuperCkicken November 8th, 2007 23:29

one time use? :-(

Tri-Balle November 8th, 2007 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperCkicken (Post 570899)
one time use? :-(

Yeah well......but the bang and the frag effect is realy cool....:D

matt491 November 8th, 2007 23:42

This isn't AI's airsoft grenade, is it?

Drake November 8th, 2007 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tri-Balle (Post 570909)
Yeah well......but the bang and the frag effect is realy cool....:D

Quote:

splash range: 3~5meter
paint color: blue

Did you actually mean "the frag effect is really blue" ?

Tri-Balle November 8th, 2007 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 570927)
Did you actually mean "the frag effect is really blue" ?

well yes the paint is blue, but the frag effect is cool too..loll

Tri-Balle November 8th, 2007 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 570918)
This isn't AI's airsoft grenade, is it?

Nope not that I am aware of..

Jo_Canadian November 9th, 2007 00:12

....I dont think many of us want to get our kit covered in blue paint, That would kind of negate the effect of camoflauge. I mean if I'm painted blue running through the woods....Im gonna be a beacon of hope for anyone with 20/20 sight and the ability to pull a trigger.

MadMax November 9th, 2007 00:26

Not mine. Mine blasts bbs and is reusable.

Styrak November 9th, 2007 00:26

Ummm.....yeah....no airsofter wants to use paint grenades.

arman November 9th, 2007 00:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 570973)
Not mine. Mine blasts bbs and is reusable.

AI all the way!!!!

Amos November 9th, 2007 00:57

What's with all these paintballers coming on here trying to peddle paintball stuff to us?

Greylocks November 9th, 2007 06:44

Tri-balle... since you have played airsoft before (according to your claims and supported by local players), you should know better by now.

This is also an Accessory, and there is a section for that.

TrueTGN November 11th, 2007 03:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by mack_silent (Post 572106)
Curious as to how this device works?

Is it spring loaded? Because if it actually explodes that mite not be safe hitting someone in goggles area.

I believe its just blue paint that "explodes" out.

Gunk November 11th, 2007 03:29

What causes the paint to "explode" out?

Dirty movies?

Drake November 11th, 2007 04:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunk (Post 572110)
What causes the paint to "explode" out?


Maybe a resurgence of repressed anger?

Gunk November 11th, 2007 04:41

Andy the bomb?


Grrrrr... pop!

Phil_Black November 11th, 2007 07:37

We have theses at our feild. We empty them and fill them with BB'S

The only thing that is cool is the shape because this thing does not send bb past 24 inch radius. And we alsow pay them 10 $.

Inside ther's a cartridge (.22 Lr size) when you pull the pin the hammer is holding back by a rubber disk and it's going down slowly then it explosing (5 to 8 sec) and the cartridge is not in a chamber.

Not worth it, for every thing else ther's master card !

LyquidFyre November 11th, 2007 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by mack_silent (Post 572146)


Phone number? :D

rockafella November 11th, 2007 18:39

This is a Paint granade guys not AS. The bang is pretty impressive but you have to make sure that the weather is pretty warm when you deploy these or else they they don't work too well. I've only tried this onec and it was pretty disapointing. the delay was more like 10seconds and not the 4seconds that it claims. The radius was...well nn exsistent. I contacted the manufacturer and he says that if its cold out it won't work. It was about 25 degrees out, and it had been in my vest pocket for a bout two hours and still pretty lousy. this is just my experience.

rockafella November 11th, 2007 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil_Black (Post 572141)
We have theses at our feild. We empty them and fill them with BB'S

The only thing that is cool is the shape because this thing does not send bb past 24 inch radius. And we alsow pay them 10 $.

Inside ther's a cartridge (.22 Lr size) when you pull the pin the hammer is holding back by a rubber disk and it's going down slowly then it explosing (5 to 8 sec) and the cartridge is not in a chamber.

Not worth it, for every thing else ther's master card !

Hey how do i replace the paint with BB's?

Phil_Black November 11th, 2007 21:38

We did make a hole ont both side of the grenade.

the size of a quarter.

Empty the paint, wash and dry (let it dry over the night) and fill up with BB's

We did hot glued the 2 holes.

And use .12 mixt with baby podwer

Sergeantmajor November 11th, 2007 22:03

i find it nice but not cool. once your dead...well your pretty dead for the rest of the day. and its pretty sloppy to be painted for the rest of the day.

Drake November 11th, 2007 23:43

the .22LR power sounds like the 22 blanks they sell for nailguns.

This just seems like one more step in the very very wrong direction which the "airsoft grenade" arms race seems to be going in. (the AI model not withstanding -- hopefully it'll put an end to this folly)

pawscal November 11th, 2007 23:53

I cant wait for the AI grenade... Madmax any updates are you still considering the preorder?

MadMax November 12th, 2007 00:39

Things are going pretty well, but I unfortunately don't get to control everything that affects my launch date. Final adjustments to my mould are being made, but I do not expect them to be finished for at least 4wks. My mould maker is a good guy, but I have to wait my turn in his work queue. Then there's another 1-3wk wait for a spot at my injection moulders.

I've been chucking around test shots from the mould and they work quite well. I'm nearly finished with packaging design and have moved onto manual publishing.

I was really hoping to catch this xmas season, but the delays in the mould shop have dashed those hopes pretty soundly. I'll probably be launching in mid Dec to early January. When I get a more firm date on my mould completion, I'll open up preorders, but I can't do that until I have a solid idea on delivery date.

In the meantime, I'm producing the marketing material. In fact, I get to shoot my product at 4000 frames per minute this week with a uber expensivo high speed camera. It's costing me a mint to rent the damn thing, but I think it'll help people pry their wallets open when they get to really see how my product works.

rockafella November 12th, 2007 01:06

What about this guys:

Airsoft granade
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_410.html

this is cool too:
Pressure-Activated Landmine
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_411.html

And this cool silencer:
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_412.html

TokyoSeven November 12th, 2007 01:24

Ugh, dont like those grenades. There ok, but well personally I perfer the home made variety, over anything else.

Just waiting paitently for the AI grenade though.

Drake November 12th, 2007 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockafella (Post 572561)
What about this guys:

Airsoft granade
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_410.html

this is cool too:
Pressure-Activated Landmine
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_411.html

And this cool silencer:
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_412.html


Landmine looks like Madbull's and the Suppressor is the powdershot.

RAP4 seems to be hawking a lot of rebranded airsoft stuff, like grenade launchers:

http://rap4.com/paintball/os/minegre...cher-c-38.html

ProbeJax November 12th, 2007 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 572566)
Ugh, dont like those grenades. There ok, but well personally I perfer the home made variety, over anything else.

Just waiting paitently for the AI grenade though.

Homemade, huh? What if they end up looking like mine, over in the media section? :D complete trash

Aquamarine November 12th, 2007 03:27

Nope, the one's from TokyoSeven are VERY good, look nice (no offense, but look a shit-load better than poorly carved wood) and HURT so you know you got hit.

Ronan November 12th, 2007 04:02

If i catch someone using that and i get 'frag' with blue paint on my multicam = he is going home in a cast.

Pretty good reason why I play AIRsoft and not PAINTball.

your-pastor November 12th, 2007 16:29

forget the multi cam man, what about your gun? gets that stuff in your barrel, sight, or any crevas and you have to now go over it with a cutip... or, for those who wear face protection, IE paintball mask, bella clava, shegmah, or anything else, has to take it off cuz they cant breathe,

thus exopsing your now itchy, gooy, and blue face to an onslaught of relentless jerks who think its funny to shoot at the, now blue, guy who is spazing out cuz he cant breathe, or see, making all manner of loud noises to alert others of his agony.

its like using chemical weapons in war, you dont use them that often, but when you do, everyone hates you, and laughs at the person that got hit

Amos November 13th, 2007 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockafella (Post 572561)
What about this guys:

Airsoft granade
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_410.html

this is cool too:
Pressure-Activated Landmine
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_411.html

And this cool silencer:
http://rap4.com/paintball/os/rap4-ai...c-261_412.html

Wow They copied Madbull and PDI completely...

Hurray Rap4 selling re-branded things!

TokyoSeven November 13th, 2007 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 572597)
Nope, the one's from TokyoSeven are VERY good, look nice (no offense, but look a shit-load better than poorly carved wood) and HURT so you know you got hit.


Why thank you Aqua, I have since been improving on the design, using new materials, I should whip up another batch to show you.

bean November 13th, 2007 14:21

Rap4 doesn't copy they get things under license to rebrand.

leecas November 13th, 2007 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 572555)
Things are going pretty well, but I unfortunately don't get to control everything that affects my launch date. Final adjustments to my mould are being made, but I do not expect them to be finished for at least 4wks. My mould maker is a good guy, but I have to wait my turn in his work queue. Then there's another 1-3wk wait for a spot at my injection moulders.

I've been chucking around test shots from the mould and they work quite well. I'm nearly finished with packaging design and have moved onto manual publishing.

I was really hoping to catch this xmas season, but the delays in the mould shop have dashed those hopes pretty soundly. I'll probably be launching in mid Dec to early January. When I get a more firm date on my mould completion, I'll open up preorders, but I can't do that until I have a solid idea on delivery date.

In the meantime, I'm producing the marketing material. In fact, I get to shoot my product at 4000 frames per minute this week with a uber expensivo high speed camera. It's costing me a mint to rent the damn thing, but I think it'll help people pry their wallets open when they get to really see how my product works.

Any idea on what the cost for the grenades will be?

Aquamarine November 15th, 2007 09:15

If I recall from his original thread, something to the tune of about $70 is what was mentioned for the final price.

OTTAWAlonewolf November 17th, 2007 13:17

anyone remember Hazard's grenade ?

we use it once in Frenchy's indoor game ! u should see everyone 's face ( include mine )

that thing is almost scary as a REAL ONE

I think Hazard, and Lutinit is working some secrate plot taking over the government

Tri-Balle November 18th, 2007 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by your-pastor (Post 572843)
forget the multi cam man, what about your gun? gets that stuff in your barrel, sight, or any crevas and you have to now go over it with a cutip... or, for those who wear face protection, IE paintball mask, bella clava, shegmah, or anything else, has to take it off cuz they cant breathe,

thus exopsing your now itchy, gooy, and blue face to an onslaught of relentless jerks who think its funny to shoot at the, now blue, guy who is spazing out cuz he cant breathe, or see, making all manner of loud noises to alert others of his agony.

its like using chemical weapons in war, you dont use them that often, but when you do, everyone hates you, and laughs at the person that got hit

Just on a off note...its a paintgrenade, not a canadian tire 1 galon of tremclade paint....I dont realy know what the deal is all about, sure the grenade has flaws but it better than trowing a cardboard tube stuffed with bbs and firecraker!...the paint is veg oil based...man I dont know how you guys play the game anymore but when i played I roled around in the dirt, mud,grass...and anything that was in the forest and did not realy care about if my guns were clean and presentable like if I had a platoon inspection ...I played hard and to win....and to have fun, the days after where for cleaning the guns and multi cams...as for being a target ....well the specs of paint can be brushed off with a swipe of the hand...sounds like you guys are more on show and tell than the actual role playing game...at least most of you.

flame November 18th, 2007 01:07

+1 with Tri-Balle.

Sonic November 19th, 2007 19:17

SHE BANGS!!!!!

haha, fucking posers.
Get down, Get durty!

StRiCkEn November 19th, 2007 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tri-Balle (Post 576530)
Just on a off note...its a paintgrenade, not a canadian tire 1 galon of tremclade paint....I dont realy know what the deal is all about, sure the grenade has flaws but it better than trowing a cardboard tube stuffed with bbs and firecraker!...the paint is veg oil based...man I dont know how you guys play the game anymore but when i played I roled around in the dirt, mud,grass...and anything that was in the forest and did not realy care about if my guns were clean and presentable like if I had a platoon inspection ...I played hard and to win....and to have fun, the days after where for cleaning the guns and multi cams...as for being a target ....well the specs of paint can be brushed off with a swipe of the hand...sounds like you guys are more on show and tell than the actual role playing game...at least most of you.

Getting covered with dirt/mud, leaves, grass rarely affects your ability to blend in with surroundings negatively during an airsoft match. In many cases, it may actually help some miniscule amount.

Getting covered with blue paint that came from a grenade that went off 5 feet from you early in the day = ruined (until you clean it, that is) camo scheme that makes you easier to see. You'd be better off running through brush naked than wearing a nice coat of blue paint.

Drake November 19th, 2007 20:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by StRiCkEn (Post 577499)
Getting covered with dirt/mud, leaves, grass rarely affects your ability to blend in with surroundings negatively during an airsoft match. In many cases, it may actually help some miniscule amount.

Getting covered with blue paint that came from a grenade that went off 5 feet from you early in the day = ruined (until you clean it, that is) camo scheme that makes you easier to see. You'd be better off running through brush naked than wearing a nice coat of blue paint.

+1

(except the running around naked part :P )

Tri-Balle November 20th, 2007 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by StRiCkEn (Post 577499)
Getting covered with dirt/mud, leaves, grass rarely affects your ability to blend in with surroundings negatively during an airsoft match. In many cases, it may actually help some miniscule amount.

Getting covered with blue paint that came from a grenade that went off 5 feet from you early in the day = ruined (until you clean it, that is) camo scheme that makes you easier to see. You'd be better off running through brush naked than wearing a nice coat of blue paint.

Agreed...but, if you realy whant to play real scenario, and are going true to life gaming, well if a real grenade blows next to you like lets say 5 feet...well you will be kinda covered in red and maybe even have some missing limbs..try going covert after that! see the chance that airsofters, paintballers, or any role players have is that you get a second chance to play again, and again, and again...think about that and think about what your bitching about, bleu paint! ( that by the way can be rubed off in like 5 secs ) by the way blood is thaugher to get out of clothing than paintball paint. so basicaly originaly what i was offering was a real life simulation grenade that identifies the end user where he or she got hit, to make the game more realistic, but I guess thats not what you guys whant...so keep playing with your fire crakers and spit shining your boots while typing away at your keyboard, while i offer this to the real scenario players ( paintballers) that are not affraid to get dirty for a day and dont mind the bleu paint....:o caus i figure most of them do have a washing machine at home to clean theire so pressious BDU,s or multi-cam.

Schwag November 20th, 2007 10:35

I saw MadMax's grenade last week. Not in action, unfortunately but the design is brilliant. If this thing works like I think it will, it will be the only grenade anybody uses. No pieces to pick up after, easy reload, tough casing, good bb spread. It should wipe out a large area.
I am dying to see it go off.

Dracheous November 20th, 2007 11:08

I vote we have "Cyril Sneer" put under Tri-Balle's name :P.


So fitting too, wants to do business at any time but any chance to be mean and attack even the market he wants to invade and make his money off of.

Greylocks November 20th, 2007 11:57

Let's be my usual blunt self: You have a place to play, and equipment to sell, that is designed 100% for paintballers. Why not stick to that clientele?

You said you had played airsoft before, and others agreed. You should know the problems a paint grenade can cause to an airsoft gun by now. So either adapt your products or stop trying to get one clientele to buy products meant for another clientele.

If you want to do buy/sell, there is a section of the forums for that. If you are serious, you will also get age-verified so you can do transactions here.

MadMax November 20th, 2007 13:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwag (Post 577870)
I saw MadMax's grenade last week. Not in action, unfortunately but the design is brilliant. If this thing works like I think it will, it will be the only grenade anybody uses. No pieces to pick up after, easy reload, tough casing, good bb spread. It should wipe out a large area.
I am dying to see it go off.

I've got one of my prototypes at TTAC3. Brian has been incorporating it into some of his games. If you want to see it in action, find out when Brian is going to be doing a room clearing session.

Cassius November 20th, 2007 13:09

Way to go for business relations, dude.

You suggest a product to your potential clients, they say no and explain why not and instead of understanding and finding a mutual solution you insult your potential clients and blame it on them using the old Paintball versus Airsoft argument.

With a way to treat your potential buyers like that you can rest assured I will never buy from you. You could offer me a PTW Max for 100$ and I wouldn't buy it just in case you would ever treat me like you just did to all of us.

I think it's time you put your pants on and start to be a little more professional when it comes to your business.

When it comes to dealing with people you always have to treat them as you would like to be treated and mostly when it's regarding a business relation and because you did the exact opposite of that you just lost many potential buyers. You lost me, you lost many others and you lost everyone I will encounter since it will be my pleasure to let them know you treat your potential buyers like shit. Way to go, kid.

Bob the Angry Potato November 20th, 2007 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 577961)
I've got one of my prototypes at TTAC3. Brian has been incorporating it into some of his games. If you want to see it in action, find out when Brian is going to be doing a room clearing session.

http://www.poolsclosed.us/images/smi...ot-awesome.gif

Depending on the price, I may pick up 3 or 4 of these. If they're as good as people say they are, they're definately going to be worth it.

Rukus November 20th, 2007 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracheous (Post 577885)
I vote we have "Cyril Sneer" put under Tri-Balle's name :P.

+1 lol seems fitting. And just for fun Tri ball I was bush bashing through a swamp in my last milsim which was last weekend, and yes my rifle got dirty wet and crap all through it as did the other 3 guys who were in my patrol, and I'd go through it again rather than have blue paint all over my gear. Don't think there is a market for a paint granade in an airsoft game.

Mad I'd love to see a video of your granade in action to see how she works. I'd definately be interested in a couple.

Ridiculous132 November 20th, 2007 21:45

Anyways, his argument is flawed big time. If I die and go to respawn, I will still have blue paint on me. If I die in battle, the guy coming with the reinforcement wave later on will not be covered with my blood.

Scooby Steve November 20th, 2007 21:47

I got a queasy feeling of deja vu reading this thread and now I know why. http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=44002

sikaya November 27th, 2007 21:00

Guys... Don't even bother with these pieces of crap. I am a paintballer and I saw these grenades in action at several occasions. I can honestly say that 6 times out of 10 they do not work, no matter what kind of temperature. These are manufactured directly from Taiwan so it explains the lack of quality control.

Here's the direct link to the manufacturer's website:

http://www.joymaker.com.tw/yellowpage/index.html

Even as an experienced paintballer, I would not recommend this product to anyone (and especially not airsoft players LOL)

Later

Aquamarine November 27th, 2007 23:53

So you're saying that everything made in Taiwan is crap?

Well since we're all being close-minded...

Everything from Japan is too difficult and complex to understand
Everything from China smells like dried fish
Everything from the USA has terrible quality control
Everything from Canada smells like a maple tree's ass
Everything from Korea stinks like over vinegar'd kimchi
Everything from Thailand is whorish and underage
Everything from Nigeria is smelly, shitty, spam-infested and beligerant
Everything from Turkey smells like bad body odor
Everything from Mexico is too spicy and fucking lazy
Everything from Russia is cold and miserable
Everything from England is cold and miserable

GraveTech November 28th, 2007 00:05

England is cold, miserable and wet. Don't forget wet.

sikaya November 28th, 2007 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquamarine (Post 583163)
So you're saying that everything made in Taiwan is crap?

Do you see somewhere in my post saying that everything made in Taiwan is crap ? . Some stuff is... Like some other stuff made in USA is also crap.. But from personal experience (with imported paintball products that is) I would say that the percentage is probably a lot higher if it comes from Taiwan.


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