Sniper help?
 

Hey guys names peter callsing blackbird.
Im new to airsoft and am a paintballer so i dont have much knowledge
in airsoft. i wanted some help and info regarding what would be a good sniper
rifle so start off with. one thats constistant and acurate. and would the kwa Glock 17 be a suitable starting side arm?
regards
Blackbird.

sniping sucks, especially if you are new. Think, do you want to sit in one spot all day hoping for one shot, only to be gunned down in a hail of bbs from stock AEGs.

Why is it every noob wants to be a sniper? sniper rifles offer a very marginal range advantage if it is highly upgraded...

The best thing to do for a noob that wants to be a sniper is to play for awile first to get the feel of how everybody plays, then if you've been paying attention then you know their week spots. learn how to conceal yourself so you dont stick out like a sore thumb,and take out your furthest enemy opponent first so they dont know where the shot came from.O you could just take out the highest ranking officer and drop their moral. but every good player knows that you have to start at the bottom first.

Jayhad... you suck! j/k

It all depends what you want to get out of it. Are you there to get the high "kill count"? Do you want to be the best player out there, and have everyone's attention?

Personally I do it to look cool ;)

No really, I just like the role. I'm quite content to leave at the end of the day with only a few kills. I don't mind getting out gunned and sitting out until the next game starts. I guess it's all personal preference.

I suggest you get an aeg and try that out first. One, it gets you into the game more and you get to see if you like it. And two, you get to meet the players and become known. Most players don't like a newbie with a hot BA rifle as they don't trust them not to shoot them up close.

Anyways you can always sell the AEG if you decide to change roles.

^ I love the sig! ^

Anyway, what you oughta' do is go out to a game and see if you can borrow an AEG for a round, and then play Sniper for a round, and see what you think of both.

I know some people, like my buddy, start out Sniping because they simply don't like being out in the middle of the action, and prefer to Sniper overall. So, that's my advice.

Since you're a Paintballer, you're probably already familiar with the fast-paced shootouts, so maybe an AEG would be best to start off with. On the other hand, you might perfer Sniping, and after actually doing it, you might hate it, and yourself even more for dropping $800 on a gun and $500 upgrading it to decent Sniper-quality.

1. Be prepared to spend $800-$1K, minimum, on putting together a decent sniping rig. If you can't afford that, sniping is not for you. You can't do squat with a Super 9.

2. A sniper rifle has somewhat better accuracy, but only a minimum advantage in range, over an upgraded AEG. Basically, if you can hit them, they can probably hit you - the difference is they will shoot 100 bb's to your 1.

The best advice for you is; go to a game/meet. See what we use, ask tons of questions, get your age verified (18+), ask more questions, maybe try a few guns.

Nothing comes close to seeing all this in person. Then you will have the basics to start making decisions. The rest, if you cant meet folks, is mostly in the Information section.

they're right.

Actually being an airsoft sniper doesn't mean taking a nap in the middle of the woods wearing a burlap blankie. How noobs think this is the way is being me. Stalking is the key, and getting into an area of opportunity beneficial to your team is the main job of the sniper in airsoft. Objective outlined, sniper infiltrates, radios intel to the rest of the team so they can plan the best way to hit it. If the plan is to attack and take a base, the sniper can get within shooting range undetected, radio positions, strengths and weaknesses, then soften the area up with fire to play psychological warfare with the defenders while the rest of the team moves in. Doesn't really sound like camping out in one spot all day, eh? Only the ignorant do that, and quickly give up on sniping.

I don't really consider an extra 100-150ft distance over AEGs to be only "a marginal range advantage", BTW. Besides, spring and gas powered sniper rifles are dead quiet (unlike AEGs) and even if yo uare shooting at guys 100-140ft away, yes, AEG distance, they can't always detect or sort out the location of the sniper unless they 'probe by fire'. And if you miss your target and they are aware a sniper is in the area and has tarken a shot at them, it tends to unsettle them pretty bad. I recall being told at one point by the field owner when I was flinging a shot with my M24 every 10 mins from different directions at guys in a base for about a half an hour, then went off elsewhere to save some teammates butts (after getting a radio call for help), that I had the guys in the base pinned down and cautious for a good hour AFTER I left. That in itself is the fun part!!!! Psych warfare is much more fun than just shooting people.:D

Hello Blackbird,

Welcome to airsoft, I hope you enjoy your stay:)

Sniping in airsoft is very difficult and not advisable for new players, it can be extremely expensive and frustrating to overcome the inherent shortcomings of the weapons. Additionally, any small advantage to range or accuracy is generally outweighed by the disadvantages posed by facing opponents with full automatic weapons of similar range and accuracy.

Since you come from paintball I might suggest looking into AEG Designated Marksman Rifles such as the M14 or M16 varients as these types of weapons much more closely resemble the sniper setups used in woodland paintball; by this I mean decent rate of fire with above average accuracy. With these sorts of weapons you will be able to experience the general game play as a rifleman or support and be able to test your skills in a Snipers roll.

Not sure if this helped, but I know the same advice has saved a few of my friends from making the same mistake.

Cheers!

Sniping is more of a mindset than hardware. There's a lot of sitting around and waiting, crawling, and sneaking around. It's not for everyone.

My advice is your first gun should be an AEG, something you can play in any scenario. Get a few games under you belt first and meet people. Sniping isn't generally a role for first time players.

If you're in our area, attend one of the Sniper Clinics and find out if it's really for you.

Your going to spend money on the sniper rifle, and don't forget your side arm because as soon as someone moves in to close your hooped, you can't engage them with the sniper rifle. So that is another expense you will have to look at. One guy I went out with had an MP5k as his back up, was a pretty good set up, but he was also very experienced. And yes having just him out there with that sniper rifle made me watch a little more closely where I was going and what was around me. I'm working my way into the sniper role with my m4a1 it has good power, just not the long barrel so I'm mainly working on just the stalking aspect. Once I have that down then I'm going to go ahead with a sniper rifle, but that won't be for a while yet.

Hello peter callsing blackbird and welcome to the forums. I do not suggest sniping as it is an incredibly dull and boring role to play. Imagine sitting in one or two positions for the vast majority of the day, getting eaten alive by mosquitoes and red ants.

If you like boredom and playing with your winkie, then yea, go for it. Otherwise, I really don't suggest it. For a good sniper rifle that works AS a sniper rifle, you're looking at spending $700-800 for the gun, another $400 for the upgrades and only THEN will you potentially have a gun that's worthy of using as a sniper role. Be warned... it sucks.

Aqua is correct, I am his CounterSniper, assistant, medic, support/whore.
Im usually with him for the whole ride when theres sniping to be done. If you like being bored outa of your skull, but enjoy piece and quiet and the ocasional forward scout mission, then sniping may for you. If you enjoy action perhaps something else will better suite your game play style.

Why do all these new guys come on the forums, and ask about being a sniper, or ask what sniper rifle is the best? What is up with new guys and sniping?

They come from Battlefield, or Counter-Strike. Or they just think that sniping is cool because it's in TV and movies. And they're most likely young as well.

Sniping IS cool. Nothing beats seeing the face of your target right before he dies.
:D

its the thought of it thats appealing. Sniping isnt boring jesus quit discouraging the guy. They are right in this however, get an AEG get into the game see what its like could be alot different than what you may think. Sneakin around isnt boring often enough im able to sneak into the midst of things and sneak around for some time and then pick out people quietly and maybe even call in a fireteam via radio and tell them where to infiltarate from.

it can be a difficult position to play and you do have to rely/guess on how the other team is gonna react and when it is and isnt appropriate to move.

Sniping isn't boring? Maybe not in a skirmish, but in MilSim... it is QUITE boring.

They play CSS.

I wish I had a huge annoying signature.

All I have is a small annoying signature.

Unless they know what they are doing. BUT, in the best interest of gathering intel for the team, I have spent 2 solid hours in place watching movement from WAY out of rifle range from the base we were defending. Yes, boring all to hell, but I lucked out because two of the guys ffrom the other team strolled up the out of bounds road after those two hours, over to my corner of the field (literally it's an almost non-used are of the field) and came within 50ft of me thinking they could observe the base defenses. A couple MP5 bursts later, they couldn't believed be in such a remote place.

Yes, sniping can be VERY boring!!!!

:D


I am new and sniping sounds fun, but that is thanks to movies/computer games. I am definitely gonna stick with a normal AEG role until i get to know the game better and perhaps try sniping a few times (not to mention the fact that i don't have the cash to buy a sniper setup :P )

Sniping is very demanding. But it is also rewarding to know that you are in a key position to relay enemy movements to your team. Knowing your environment and weapon is key. Knowing when to take a shot or let the enemy slip by. If you find sniping is not entirely for you, look at counter-sniping. Bottom line is you won't know until you try. get out to games, meet and greet players. Ask some our vet snipers advice like Sha Do or CDN_Stalker. These are the ghosts of the airsoft sniping world and can no doubt impart tons of fantastic knowledge which will help you determine if sniping, counter sniping or sticking with assault are for you.

Cheers, and welcome to the sport.

**EDIT**
And like stated above, be prepared to drop some serious bucks on having a worthwhile sniping platform. My bushmaster is up to $1400 and I'm not done upgrading it fully yet.

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woopsiedoodle.

AWP whores...

:( Boom No headshot?

It might explain why. I also happen to hate CS freaks. I play a lot of Battlefield myself, never had the slightest desire for a sniper rifle.

I play BF2. Always as a sniper. Always get the most kill with less death. But sniping is far from realistic in that game lol

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Yep, and sniping in airsoft is even farther from what some people might expect. It's more about the tactics then the gun itself.

Yupp. But it still very fun (at least to me it is). We really need a FAQ about snipers/sniping in Airsoft... *pokes Stalker*

That's actually in the works. Sha do and I are putting one together with the other clinic instructors.

lookin forward to it. i hope there's zero voodoo involved, it'd be great to have at least one sniper thread that isn't all bogus numbers and crazy guns with unprofessional installation of all aftermarket parts.

The plan is to finalize everything over sushi....cause sushi helps us think.

I should transfer a bunch of my airsoft sniper stickies from the Warmonger's website over to you guys to use. I haven't touched them for a while and have more info to update. It's mainly about airsoft ballistics, I'll leave the fieldcraft info for others to write up.

Definitely put them on the site. I'm trying to get input from snipers. Sha Do and I want to get input and info from other snipers. We're working on putting up a sniper's FAQ and base info for people with questions.

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THANKS FOR THE HELP GUYS AND SORRY I HAVENT REPLIED SOONER I WAS mia FOR A WHILE AND AM BACK! i know how some may feel about sniping and all its boars. but i am a verry content and patinent person. ive done some sniping in rec ball " tatical paintball" and i found it soo much fun to lurk arround, searching through your scope until you find your little prey, so un expecting and innocent. then all you see is the yellow paint splash across his "wtf just happned?" face :p
but mainly i would like to get some advice on what sniper rifle to buy and upgrade, and yes i have taken other thought's into consideration as some have mensioned and i feel right with the classic army g36k or the classic army SCAR L
wich both i had a chance to fiddle with on my vacation in finnland. :p
Blackbird.

A "true" sniper is not one person but two.If you are looking for a mil-sim type of sniper than you are going to need to get yourself a spotter,snipers always travel in two.Like some other people have said the role of a sniper is to gather intel for the rest of the team,comms are a important weapon to the sniper aswell.You may be all gung-ho to play that role right now,but believe me after you play as a rifleman you'll change your mind I'm sure.
Good luck to you and whatever role you want to play.

Are you trying to say that you're going to use a G36 or a SCAR as a sniper rifle? If that's the case: Fail.

I don't think I know anyone who only owns just a sniper rifle...They all got a aeg so they can play a different roll once in a while.

I think he means that he's also looked into getting an AEG instead of a true Sniper Rifle, but he'd prefer the Sniper Rifle. Or something. Yeah!

off topic i know, but this question is for stalker, what rifle do you use to snipe and what upgrades do you have in it?

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Jayhad is right, blackbird, if you want a sniper, you should wait and get a rifle (prefferaably AEG). Once that is done, you may consider getting a sniper, so that way, if trouble comes your way, you can pull out your AEG and eliminate closer targets more efficiantly. I personally carry one (ghillied) sniper, a ghillie suit, and my M5A4. Its an all-rounder.

Dude, that blackbird guy hasn't been on the board for like 7 months. Plus your just giving advice that's already said.

cause i ppl still think airsoft is like "cs with better graphics"... i still liked the ghille suit jumping up and scaring ppl trick, i would like it more if they hadnt sprayed me with about 60 bbs immediatly from about 5 ft away >.>

Will you stop disturbing the graves of these dead threads with your addition of pointless comments?

ok ok!!! jeez... i don't check post dates... i will start checking them now >.>

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