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diamond_SEA October 2nd, 2007 20:16

Tanks: If paintball does it, why cant we?
 
Just stumbled upon this as my friend was showing some of his paintball stuff off.

http://forums.warpig.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10637


Sure some of them are ghetto, but the basic idea still runs.

A Bradley IFV based on a long chevy van chassis would certainly spice up some larger games...

ILLusion October 2nd, 2007 20:19

There ARE airsofters who build such vehicles.

Penguin October 2nd, 2007 20:24

Each one of those, was more crudely built.. and horrible.. than the last.

diamond_SEA October 2nd, 2007 20:24

I think some pics are in order

CDN_Stalker October 2nd, 2007 20:29

Oh boy, I think I've seen the bottom of the barrel. What is that, cardboard? Or plywood with cardboard coloured paint?

Viperfish October 2nd, 2007 20:45

Just goes to show you with some cardboard and little creativity, YOU to can turn that old golf cart into a battle ready tank...well sorta...

DrChi October 2nd, 2007 21:15

Wow, sorry those are nasty looking.

Seriously, check this out!

Someday...

Cassius October 2nd, 2007 21:25

I actually had a tank idea.

Instead of trying to copy an existing one and so it ends up looking fugly, I though of creating one from scratch. Maybe more like an IFV though.

All you would need would be a pickup with the top chopped off and a wooden structure around it. I had the 3d plans somewhere...

Viperfish October 2nd, 2007 21:31

actually, now that i think about it, it wouldn't be that hard to make one, my buddy and i have made some really complex things before (dune buggy's segways, go carts that electric car...) and this sounds like a great project to dive into. you could make the main gun fire 200rd launcher rounds, and have a coax-el gun as well, maybe even throw in some smoke launchers just to show off to the Americans and there plywood tanks

dammit don't give me ideas man.....ah to late

ThunderCactus October 2nd, 2007 21:32

building a tank, sure, restoring an old Leopard C2, far more awesome.
Downside to restoring real steel is they're usually decommissioned, and therefore full of torch cuts. But the JSOC M75 APC should be running next year lol

But having a tank in the game raises issues such as: how to destroy it WITH the crew noticing they've actually been hit, god knows they're not going to hear a nerf rocket hit the hull over the roar of a diesel engine. Not to mention scores of safety issues. Makes a nice prop or stationary turret though! :D

Viperfish October 2nd, 2007 21:35

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 546409)
building a tank, sure, restoring an old Leopard C2, far more awesome.
Downside to restoring real steel is they're usually decommissioned, and therefore full of torch cuts. But the JSOC M75 APC should be running next year lol

But having a tank in the game raises issues such as: how to destroy it WITH the crew noticing they've actually been hit, god knows they're not going to hear a nerf rocket hit the hull over the roar of a diesel engine. Not to mention scores of safety issues. Makes a nice prop or stationary turret though! :D


you could line the outside of the tank with impact sensors and in most games with tanks they have a ref watching the tank


be allot of fun to do if ya ask me, downside is airsoft rocket launchers are pricey and hard to come by

kalnaren October 2nd, 2007 22:05

Don't the Strykers in the US use an M113?

DrChi October 2nd, 2007 22:23

Yeah, plus tanks are also pricey and hard to come by.

But try here if you want 'safe', or here if you're feeling lucky! Or, if you want to build your own, this here probly makes a really sweet starting point. Lots less $$$ too!

mcguyver October 2nd, 2007 22:27

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Originally Posted by kalnaren (Post 546436)
Don't the Strykers in the US use an M113?

A "Stryker" is the wheeled-replacement for the M113 (which has tracks).

Strykers have multiple weapon and configuration options (25mm Bushmaster, 105mm gun, TOW missles). They will withstand all but shaped charges (like RPGs) or anti-tank weapons. M113 won't even stop AP small arms rounds (aluminum armour? Whoever thought of that should be shot). Wheels are far superior to tracks for speed, maintenance and stealth. M113 has no offensive armament, unless a GI puts a .50 on it somewhere.

M113 designed in the 1950's. Stryker designed in the 1990's.

Viperfish October 2nd, 2007 22:45

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Originally Posted by DrChi (Post 546450)
Yeah, plus tanks are also pricey and hard to come by.

But try here if you want 'safe', or here if you're feeling lucky! Or, if you want to build your own, this here probly makes a really sweet starting point. Lots less $$$ too!

Iv actually talked to my buddy about doing one before and now thanks to you guys I'm bringing it up with a strong chance that we may actually start it, he needs and outlet (broke up with his g/f and the cops were involved Long story and for me it was a damn long yesterday night)

so who knows, build the frame out of steel and go with a stryker or bmp wheeled look make the body panels out of fiberglass and PVC and mesh, then paint and add all the greeblys in metal and stuff after.

Main gun could be based over an 6 shot launcher which would mean reloading times, it could fire 200rd launcher shells, other guns on it would just be beefed up AEGs, you could add smoke launchers then just use auto parts for things like lights and stuff

It would prove to be a fun and interesting thing to do, if we do it.

six4 October 2nd, 2007 22:53

old toyota tercel,camo paint and some imagination creates this.

YouTube - vehicle escort game

this one of my favorite games as far as run n gun warm up games go!! this is my game idea and my filming.

DrChi October 2nd, 2007 22:55

With an Argo, I'd be thinking of something more like this crazy thing.

Take the Argo, make own roll cage (Argo's roll cage = ugly), and mount an M249 on it. Now you've got an amphibious mini 'warthog' thing happening. But, it ain't no battle ready T-72 conversion :(

GovernmentGrant October 3rd, 2007 13:34

Why not just build something along the lines of a German WWII Pzkw I?

Teenie little tank, think it only had a 2 person crew, was armed with 2 MG's in the turret.

http://www.battletanks.com/new_page_6.htm

Probably easy as all heck to build something similar out of the right model of Argo. I always wanted to follow through on this idea but like so many of my other brilliant ideas I just never got around to it.

Viperfish October 3rd, 2007 19:43

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Originally Posted by GovernmentGrant (Post 546804)
Why not just build something along the lines of a German WWII Pzkw I?

Teenie little tank, think it only had a 2 person crew, was armed with 2 MG's in the turret.

http://www.battletanks.com/new_page_6.htm

Probably easy as all heck to build something similar out of the right model of Argo. I always wanted to follow through on this idea but like so many of my other brilliant ideas I just never got around to it.


you could do that, but i guess it comes down to what the person building is into me, me myself i like the newer hardware so id build something after that, maybe a smaller ver of a lav lol

Forever_kaos October 3rd, 2007 19:49

Tank would be awesome, but still the issue how to take it out?

Viperfish October 3rd, 2007 20:07

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Originally Posted by Forever_kaos (Post 547074)
Tank would be awesome, but still the issue how to take it out?

foam rockets from a m72 would work, if the person was alright with it you could use the rockets with the paint tips, if not then you just have the impact sensors, or have a ref watching the tank.

shouldn't be that hard to work out, and if you do the walls with fiber glass, you would hear a rocket hit you I'm sure i could find a good way to make it work, cus dammit i want a tank!

Forever_kaos October 3rd, 2007 22:56

^ .. Go for it! .. I think if it was made out of clear fiber glass, so you could SEE your tank being 'blown to bits' it'd be awesome!..aslong as it could be clearly id'd for a hit, it's wicked idea! ... eh random though, it's a tank, can we shoot it normally for fun? :D

DrChi October 4th, 2007 12:01

Just embed RFID tags into the foam rockets, build a detector into the tank. Soon as the rocket gets within range, it's a hit. I suppose there'd be some logistical stuff to work out, but still it would work pretty good. (I'm still talking about getting a real actual tank... If you can afford to get the tank, you can afford to muck around and develop a perfect system.)

Edit: NM, 'logistical stuff' = an array of lots of really short range detectors all over the main hull of the tank, NP!

S.H.I.E.L.D. October 4th, 2007 12:16

That Prowler is awesome, like a badass golf-cart! Love to take that to play 18. "Mind if we play through?" <Sound of bolt racking on M249> "That answer your question Chippy?"

I'd love to build a fibreglass M113 for LZ Woodstock. Best would be to get an old minivan and build fiberglass frame around that. But that requires $$ :)

surebet October 4th, 2007 12:37

Wouldn't RFID be simply to short range?

KISS: Call your hits! :)

DrChi October 4th, 2007 13:16

That Prowler is pretty sweet eh? But combine that roll cage with the Argo, now you've got something that's amphibious, and will carry around up to six people!

Surebet, the point of RFID is the short range, the shorter the better. Read: sensor arrays all over the outside of the actual (I mean real, actual, surplus) main battle tank's hull. The tighter the range, the better, you wouldn't want a near miss to set it off really.

Viperfish October 4th, 2007 13:49

I still like the idea of doing it myself, would mean we don't have to overcome any problems with a base model we can just build it for what we need, hell we could even give it treads if we wanted to. When i do something, i normally go all out on it...problem is, we would have to train ppl to sue the damn thing lol

DrChi October 4th, 2007 14:12

That would be a fun and $$$ week!

Royal Paine October 10th, 2007 15:38

RFID readers 'usually' have a range of no more than 3" - the readers can be pricey too - ~$40 for single units

dockronixion October 11th, 2007 11:15

Slightly off topic but still pretty sweet
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com...amp-Truck.html

Molson October 11th, 2007 11:22

we have a truck that we drive like a tank :)

http://www.captainjimbo.com/photos/a...pack%20083.JPG

Viperfish October 11th, 2007 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by dockronixion (Post 552158)
Slightly off topic but still pretty sweet
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com...amp-Truck.html


now just add some gun ports and your ready for a day of ASing

Rukus October 11th, 2007 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by dockronixion (Post 552158)
Slightly off topic but still pretty sweet
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com...amp-Truck.html

That would be sweet. A little big though but I like the mini bar idea.

Dracheous October 11th, 2007 13:27

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Originally Posted by Rukus (Post 552168)
That would be sweet. A little big though but I like the mini bar idea.

"MOTHER(*&^ER SPILLED MY MARTINI! QUICK! ROLL OUT THE FIFTIES!"


My father showed me that vehicle a long while ago and he's seriously considering building one for hunting and fishing or just *&^(ing off into the bush. He's developed this need that his vehicles must have a 10 person capacity for get-to-gether parties. He's already getting all the things clear up and ready to take owner-ship on a party jet boat and the thing'll be fast enough for wake-boardin' and knee boarding and looking at its keel I'll wager it has a fair sized wake. I'm just waiting for the day he shows up with a damned RV. :rolleyes:

DrChi October 11th, 2007 14:29

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Originally Posted by Royal Paine (Post 551460)
RFID readers 'usually' have a range of no more than 3" - the readers can be pricey too - ~$40 for single units

Meh, if a guy could afford $80k+ for an actual tank, a few thousand extra for some RFID readers is nothing!

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 14:41

I drive a tank right now an FV 433 Brittish abbot and there has been talk about using itfor air soft I sure would not want to get hit by a 105 mm airsoft round though!

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 14:52

Next year we will have a leopard with the upgrade armour kit and we have two M-113A2 also and one ferret scout car

DrChi October 11th, 2007 15:17

Brit, how do you manage to get a hold of the import license for a tank? Would it be considered a 'prohibited firearm? Don't you have to do something to permanently alter the breach so it cannot fire any known caliber of shell? Wouldn't it then be plausible enough to develop a tank sized M203 round, making sure it's not the size of any common caliber, adding an inner barrel, etc?

I want I want I want!

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 15:19

Dr CHi I work at a Private military museum I,m a driver ,maintainer

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 15:21

Artillary pieces do not have to be welded to the fact that Ammo is impossable to get.

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 15:24

The armoured vehicals are not imported they are Canadian

DrChi October 11th, 2007 15:35

Wow, a private military museum, you say... that sound's like a good start.

120mm 'M203'-style airsoft rounds would be insane!!! Just imagine driving around in a CADPAT Leopard C2, shooting it at stuff, including groups of people downrange! Too much fun!

edit: But how often does CF demilitarize their armour?

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 15:40

Well the vehicals have to be driven and We would have to have insurance , fuel, right now its something to look forward to The museum is in NOTL but the heavies are in St. Cathrines.

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 15:42

We are getting the Firing pin in a month for the abbot , next summer We will be firing blanks out of her

Brit ter October 11th, 2007 15:48

We are also getting a grizzly AVGP. It is going to be painted White and used as a UN vehical


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