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WARFIGHTER September 11th, 2007 11:41

WARNING: Roger Skic of Custom Tactical Creations
 
I would advise extreme caution dealing with this guy, in June I sent him 400.00 USD for the production of a prototype rig I had designed, he told me three weeks for delivery. After sending the money I hadn't recieved any reciept or confirmation of any kind which he told me I would, so I emailed him, no response, a few weeks later and after a few more emails, he finally emailed me back saying I should have recieved the reciept... Three weeks came and went and I inquired about the progress, again no response, another week later and another several emails, he again, emailed me back, saying he was almost done, just waiting on some materials, should be another day or two until he shipped it out. Now it's almost 4 months later and he hasn't responded to any emails in over a month, of course it has passed the time when I can paypal dispute, I've complained with the appropriate authorities however getting a hold of his local police dept is a huge pain in the ass and of course no other would deal with it as it isn't in their jurisdiction.

Anyway, I would advise not dealing with this guy.

Lakonian September 11th, 2007 11:45

Quite an irresponsible character. Kinda like some folk from Osh.. er.. nvm..

Hope this get's resolved. If it doesn't, sorry about your loss! :(

Regan.S September 11th, 2007 17:48

I hope you get your stuff or your money back! I hate not receiving stuff. I hope you saved all your emails and the emails he sent you because if not I don't think the authorities will do anythin about it =(!

Kokanee September 11th, 2007 18:24

wtf are you talking about getting ahold of his police dept is a "huge pain in the ass"?

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&cli...18585182688620

Rush City Police Dept: Non-Emergency

325 S Eliot Ave
Rush City, MN 55069, USA
(320) 358-4741

And buddies contact info is on his webpage;

Contact Information:

Custom Tactical Creations
3025 Rush Point Drive
Rush City, MN. 55069
(320)980-2901

Contact the police dept, and have them fax you a police report to fill out for mail fraud charges, or direct you to the agency that can. Although I believe that mail fraud is a federal offence in the states and falls under FBI jurisdiction.

I had the same thing happen to me over ebay a few years ago, putting together my 'nam gear. Bought some webbing and long story short, "it's shipping out today, oh my son shipped it to the wrong address, we sent it out a month ago you should have it by now"....

It took me sending him an email threatening to follow thru on charges, and amazing! a week later my package shows up, postmarked after that email..

WARFIGHTER September 18th, 2007 17:58

Yea I had the contact info, I mean it's just a pain in the ass for me to go through the steps of filing the report, etc etc, as I'm rediculously busy. It is getting done however. Anyway, I'll let you all know how it turns out.

emt_1472 October 28th, 2007 01:50

Hello again knyte!
 
Knyte, sounds like you have been a very bored, mendacious little boy now haven’t you. I do apologize for reiterating my previous post on Tactical Gear Review verbatim, but here goes…

I have had no problems with Roger. Custom Tactical Creations is a very reputable firm, and unfortunately custom gear is often time consuming. Some people fail to understand that when dealing with a specialty firms, like Custom Tactical Creations, lower volume civilian sales tend to take a back seat to large volume military or law enforcement sales especially taking into account the current geopolitical unrest in the world today. I would gladly allow my order to be delayed in order to fill that of our men and women serving in the United States Armed Forces, and fellow public safety professionals. I apologize to the “arm chair commandos” who might have been offended by my last remark, non offense Knyte, or those who feel their obsession with air soft somehow feel that their petty needs are somehow more important than those with a legitimate use for quality custom tactical equipment.

CTC's reputation has been impeccable. There was a website run by, in my opinion, an untalented hack out of Utah who used Roger's reputable name to further their substandard product sales. This guy went so far as the plagiarize CTC by purchasing the domain customtacticalcreations.com. I was alerted to this when I did a Google search for “Custom Tactical Creations” and called Roger when I discovered the link lead to the website of that fallacious individual. Now that I have finished bloviating, I hope that you have a great day sir. 

P.s.
Oh by the way, as a caveat, I would avoid making unsubstantiated defamatory statements about an individual or organization. That would be, now how I explain this simply enough for you, a little legal situation known as LIBEL. Now far be it from me to call you a liar, I find it difficult to believe that with a potentially fraudulent financial transaction that you would not have involved law enforcement. Oh wait I do recall you stating that it would be a “huge pain in my ass” to make a simple phone call to the police to file a fraud report which last I check can takes less than 30 minutes, but this is only the opinion of a logical mind. I really appreciate the opportunity to engage in healthy debate, although my arguments do seem a little more, how should I put this, well thought out and articulate. I should be getting back to work as I would hate to have an emergency call interfere our conversation. Again, have a great day sir.

~Bodkin~ October 28th, 2007 02:37

Hmm, says he's from the US (Isn't that where the store is? :D) And this is his first post . . . . seems a little fishy. Plus, personal attacks aren't cool. The only thing Knyte did was let people know he had a poor experience. We do have the right to free speech, right?

Beazer October 28th, 2007 02:38

as opposed to sending an e-mail that takes all of 5 minutes.
This sounds like a case of hypocrisy.

and yeah, extremely poor on his part for a personal attack.

and if you don't want this to occur again I would advise this custom tactical supplier to only accept orders that they can fill. Instead of having to deal with any perturbed customer/s.

SHaKaL October 28th, 2007 03:03

Dear Emt_1472;

We fucking know where the USA is... More Canadians know that than americans know where their Capital is... Or in fact know where Canada is.

So a simple USA for location would suffice

yanhchan October 28th, 2007 08:44

Poor/Lack of communication with the customer is step one towards business failure. I don't care how fucking busy you are, but if you've taken $400 from the customer and its been 4 months, you ought to tell him the progress once in a while.

spacemoose October 28th, 2007 09:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by emt_1472 (Post 563455)
Oh by the way, as a caveat, I would avoid making unsubstantiated defamatory statements about an individual or organization. That would be, now how I explain this simply enough for you, a little legal situation known as LIBEL.

Quote:

although my arguments do seem a little more, how should I put this, well thought out and articulate.
What a smug asshole.


This is just, oh, how should i put it? My opinion.

Sterling October 28th, 2007 11:43

There is a Custom Tactical Creations in Utah? I've been in the Utah Airsoft scene for quit some time and I havent heard of a Custom Tactical Creations.

mcguyver October 28th, 2007 12:11

Well, let's see:

1) A Canadian has trouble with a foreign (in this case American) supplier.

2) The American supplier knows the country of origin of the Canadian.

3) The American must know that this is related to airsoft, and not to the requirements of a real job requiring tactical gear.

4) An American joins this, a Canadian forum dedicated to Canadian airsoft, and points fingers at said Canadian, accusing him of making libellous comments towards the American supplier.

5) This is the first and only post by this American "booster" for CTC.

6) He has in fact made eloquent and thoughtful arguments to support his point.

Now may I make as thoughtful a rebuttal as possible from a Canadian:

Go back to your fucking hole you useless piece of shit troll and shut the fuck up on a foreign forum about an issue you have no business involved in.

I mean, really, his presence here is just shut a crock of shit. Knyte had a problem and informed the community. Case closed.

Donster October 28th, 2007 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by emt_1472 (Post 563455)
Knyte, sounds like you have been a very bored, mendacious little boy now haven’t you. I do apologize for reiterating my previous post on Tactical Gear Review verbatim, but here goes…

I have had no problems with Roger. Custom Tactical Creations is a very reputable firm, and unfortunately custom gear is often time consuming. Some people fail to understand that when dealing with a specialty firms, like Custom Tactical Creations, lower volume civilian sales tend to take a back seat to large volume military or law enforcement sales especially taking into account the current geopolitical unrest in the world today. I would gladly allow my order to be delayed in order to fill that of our men and women serving in the United States Armed Forces, and fellow public safety professionals. I apologize to the “arm chair commandos” who might have been offended by my last remark, non offense Knyte, or those who feel their obsession with air soft somehow feel that their petty needs are somehow more important than those with a legitimate use for quality custom tactical equipment.

CTC's reputation has been impeccable. There was a website run by, in my opinion, an untalented hack out of Utah who used Roger's reputable name to further their substandard product sales. This guy went so far as the plagiarize CTC by purchasing the domain customtacticalcreations.com. I was alerted to this when I did a Google search for “Custom Tactical Creations” and called Roger when I discovered the link lead to the website of that fallacious individual. Now that I have finished bloviating, I hope that you have a great day sir. ?

P.s.
Oh by the way, as a caveat, I would avoid making unsubstantiated defamatory statements about an individual or organization. That would be, now how I explain this simply enough for you, a little legal situation known as LIBEL. Now far be it from me to call you a liar, I find it difficult to believe that with a potentially fraudulent financial transaction that you would not have involved law enforcement. Oh wait I do recall you stating that it would be a “huge pain in my ass” to make a simple phone call to the police to file a fraud report which last I check can takes less than 30 minutes, but this is only the opinion of a logical mind. I really appreciate the opportunity to engage in healthy debate, although my arguments do seem a little more, how should I put this, well thought out and articulate. I should be getting back to work as I would hate to have an emergency call interfere our conversation. Again, have a great day sir.

you know, talking down to a person and using big words in a patronizing voice doesn't make friends on this site. it carves out a niceil little shit-filled niche for eternity. you should work on your people skills. As for your love of "the opportunity to engage in healthy debate", im sure you will find many people on this site who share that love with you. cept dont expect them to use nice fancy words to properly articulare their thoughts. See your "neighbours to the north" usually just say things outlike like: "You're a dick!" or "Piss off ya Yank" or a very common one such as "God that guys is an asswhole". But i just want to say on behalf of the ASC community that we so appreciate your thoughts on the issue, esp when they were not asked for! What would we do without you? again have a nice day to you sirrah!:)

Omi-san October 28th, 2007 14:10

Is emt_1472 a random American guy or someone from Custom tactical Creations doing damage control (poorly)?

This post is the second link provided by Google when searching "Custom Tactical Creations".

Griffin October 28th, 2007 14:16

Discuss things all you want but, how hard would it have been for Roger to take 5mins of his time to write a detailed email explaining the situation. It would have given Kynte the peace of mind knowing, that will get made just that he had more important orders that needed to be filled first.

Outcast569 October 28th, 2007 14:44

If thats some one from CTC then they should be fired no questions asked. I work in a professional setting dealing many people daily and well over thirty million dollars of product ever day. Responding to a problem with that attitude would cost any business a customer. An employer should have the respect to privatly email an individual about a problem not post a jack-ass style comment on an other countries forum bashing a respected member of this community with such arrogence(sp?). If it is found to be a member of the CTC group it should be included in the lawful follow up of this problem seeing as if Im not mistaken along with fraud charges it follows something along the lines of harrassment seeing as there is already a dispute between customer and supplyer. I may be mistaken but I dont believe so. So if I am just dont pay attention to any thing Ive said lol. Any how I hope every thing works out for you man and I also hope that CTC gets what it deserves.

Yuxi October 28th, 2007 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by emt_1472 (Post 563455)
Knyte, sounds like you have been a very bored, mendacious little boy now haven’t you. I do apologize for reiterating my previous post on Tactical Gear Review verbatim, but here goes…

I have had no problems with Roger. Custom Tactical Creations is a very reputable firm, and unfortunately custom gear is often time consuming. Some people fail to understand that when dealing with a specialty firms, like Custom Tactical Creations, lower volume civilian sales tend to take a back seat to large volume military or law enforcement sales especially taking into account the current geopolitical unrest in the world today. I would gladly allow my order to be delayed in order to fill that of our men and women serving in the United States Armed Forces, and fellow public safety professionals. I apologize to the “arm chair commandos” who might have been offended by my last remark, non offense Knyte, or those who feel their obsession with air soft somehow feel that their petty needs are somehow more important than those with a legitimate use for quality custom tactical equipment.

CTC's reputation has been impeccable. There was a website run by, in my opinion, an untalented hack out of Utah who used Roger's reputable name to further their substandard product sales. This guy went so far as the plagiarize CTC by purchasing the domain customtacticalcreations.com. I was alerted to this when I did a Google search for “Custom Tactical Creations” and called Roger when I discovered the link lead to the website of that fallacious individual. Now that I have finished bloviating, I hope that you have a great day sir. 

P.s.
Oh by the way, as a caveat, I would avoid making unsubstantiated defamatory statements about an individual or organization. That would be, now how I explain this simply enough for you, a little legal situation known as LIBEL. Now far be it from me to call you a liar, I find it difficult to believe that with a potentially fraudulent financial transaction that you would not have involved law enforcement. Oh wait I do recall you stating that it would be a “huge pain in my ass” to make a simple phone call to the police to file a fraud report which last I check can takes less than 30 minutes, but this is only the opinion of a logical mind. I really appreciate the opportunity to engage in healthy debate, although my arguments do seem a little more, how should I put this, well thought out and articulate. I should be getting back to work as I would hate to have an emergency call interfere our conversation. Again, have a great day sir.

Jog on you hick.

If someone CAN NOT supply a civilian market within a reasonable timeline, they should not offer public sales, rather simple concept.

That your country is engaged in multiple wars on multiple fronts is not our care, especially not from a consumer standpoint. He paid money for a product and he deserves to receive it within a reasonable time frame or at least enjoy reasonable communication about the delays involved.

Lay off the thesaurus. While many of us can write with eloquence, it bespeaks of great arrogance and insecurity about one's own intellectual abilities to do so on a regular basis.

Goodl2ussian October 28th, 2007 18:45

K...when you accept money for any sort of lengthy process dont fuckin undercut your timeline...give the customer the notice that "this job may in fact take a while up to a maximum of X weeks/months w/e" And if at the end of the time line its not done a discount is give or! the money is returned. Now personally coming on the forum and attacking a guy for just giving a review is definately not cool.

"Petty needs" ? what're you fucking kidding me? the guy dished out 400USD fuck needs...its called service and that supplier isnt providing it.

Drake October 28th, 2007 18:46

EMT_1472, it would appear, from the viewpoint of an outside observer such as muself, that you're following Knyte around from forum to forum only to post the same two paragraphs of text as you have here (I guess it was a lot of work looking up all them fancy city-folk words, huh).

http://www.tacticalgearreview.com/sm...;topicseen#new


You got told to butt out there too. Fail.

Scooby Steve October 28th, 2007 19:00

Hmmm I wonder if emt_1472 is this guy http://www.sahs2001.com/viewdetails.php?uid=305

matt491 October 28th, 2007 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 563736)
Hmmm I wonder if emt_1472 is this guy http://www.sahs2001.com/viewdetails.php?uid=305

Damn, that's good detective work. The internet scares me...

Scooby Steve October 28th, 2007 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt491 (Post 563750)
Damn, that's good detective work. The internet scares me...

Be more afraid of ASC Investigators:) The crap team of crappy crisp popovers, I mean, the crack team of crafty cryptographers will get results every time.

Actually, I just googled his username.

T_A_N_K October 28th, 2007 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 563564)

Go back to your fucking hole you useless piece of shit troll and shut the fuck up on a foreign forum about an issue you have no business involved in.
Knyte had a problem and informed the community. Case closed.

Amen.

Outcast569 October 29th, 2007 21:24

Wow so if that is infact the same guy then it stands to reason that some one with the experiance and profession that he has would have the knowledge to be respectful to people.



BTW google kicks ass lol :P

takatorikku October 29th, 2007 21:54

good old america, once again proving to everyone that no one likes them. you should do the paperwork man, if filling out an hours' worth of paper will get me my $400 back, then i'd happily do it.

Scooby Steve October 29th, 2007 23:11

We should all email (not PM) him on his birthday. I'll be including this link YouTube - Indian Thriller with English Lyrics!

matt491 October 29th, 2007 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 564438)
We should all email (not PM) him on his birthday. I'll be including this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJRNyPK-lc

Scooby you just made my freaking night. Thank you so much! =P Ahah, I died watching that.

NachoPuddin October 29th, 2007 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 563736)
Hmmm I wonder if emt_1472 is this guy http://www.sahs2001.com/viewdetails.php?uid=305

Anyone feel like cracking said account?

Ronan October 30th, 2007 01:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby Steve (Post 564438)
We should all email (not PM) him on his birthday. I'll be including this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJRNyPK-lc

Hahahahaha!!!!

Oh and emt_failed, go fuck yourself. Hows that for big words?

ILLusion October 30th, 2007 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by NachoPuddin (Post 564448)
Anyone feel like cracking said account?

Not really a wise comment to make, even if it's towards an asshole like this emt guy.

MadMorbius October 30th, 2007 13:08

This would be exactly why I only take payment on delivery. Kit building isn't a full-time job for me, and I HAVE declined lucrative opportunities because I didn't feel I could deliver the end-product in a reasonable time frame.

WARFIGHTER November 15th, 2007 16:51

Hmmm havn't checked this thread in a while lol. Nice to see it has grown fruitful.

But back to the main topic. So I receive this package in the mail today... You guessed it!

Postage shows sent Oct. 29th, Roger had gotten around to his computer it seemed on Oct 2cd, sitting down long enough to type that he had sent out the products that day... So... yea another lie, but anyway.

Where to begin. First off, to be honest, I'll say it is well built, the craftsmanship is solid. The only problem is, it isn't what I designed and paid him to make... Materials was supposed to be OD, this is a light Foilage Green, not a big issue really however for someone in this line of work doing custom stuff this is a stupid thing to do. Secondly, he put the snap molle attachments on the backs of all the pouches, which I didn't want and didn't ask for, it was just supposed to be straight molle. Thirdly, he made a number of design changes without consulting me and one of the results is I cannot mount the pouches on the sides of the rig that were supposed to go there...

All in all, what an excellent waste of time and money this has been. I'm gonna havta modify a lot of it myself to get something usable out of it.

Thanks Roger, your the man. ;)

edit:

Ok I read some more of the threads actually, and I am laughing. You guys are great :)

I hope EMT posts again.

Scarecrow November 15th, 2007 16:59

Well, there ya go. The moral of the story is never overpay and American what you can pay slave wages to in China and get the same thing... sorry it didn't work out for you.

WARFIGHTER November 15th, 2007 17:12

Oh and one more thing to add about the 'Arm Chair Commando' comment, this rig was actually supposed to be a demonstration rig for my brother who was at the time set to be the weapons det commander for the next tour in afganistan, we were trying to develop something ideal for his guys... So it wasn't actually for airsoft. And EMT/Roger, I would think you could benifit from some Airsoft even much less some real experience as it seems you don't take practicality into your design considerations or understand how the products are actually used... It was quite obvious the utility pouches were going on the side panels, which you cut down to only 3 columns, making them useless. You idiot.

Kudos on getting the admin pouch right though, except for the molle snap attachment system of course, and you forgot velcro on the front... But I think it's my favorite piece. Of course, it's all in the design. :p

I'll take some pics so everyone can see this stuff as soon as I find my camera, my wife apparently hid it somewhere on me...

Danke November 15th, 2007 17:45

Here's some tips for anyone joining this and wondering what they can do if they ever head down this road.

Custom one off stuff can be great if you're an odd size but often it's not as nice as the production.

People that make the custom stuff are creative and imaginative and this can lead to disaster as inspiration leads them down the garden path. We do cycling clothing and gear at work and we'll see dozens of sample sets go back and forth till the design is right.

A lot of the custom guys will spend your money when they get it, and then knock off your parts franticly the night before they're due. Cars, bikes, clothing, that's just how it works.

You can mitigate some of these issues by having a good relationship and communication with the builder. Being willing to pay way over the going rate is part of this since it's their sweat and time being used till you're happy.

For Knyte, you might as well consider that your first proto, work it, adjust it sew more on and show it to more builders but don't ever hope that something will come out the first time and be just right.

JTF27 November 15th, 2007 18:07

Knyte do you have pictures of the vest and the design for it? Would like to see them.

WARFIGHTER November 15th, 2007 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danke (Post 575068)
Here's some tips for anyone joining this and wondering what they can do if they ever head down this road.

Custom one off stuff can be great if you're an odd size but often it's not as nice as the production.

People that make the custom stuff are creative and imaginative and this can lead to disaster as inspiration leads them down the garden path. We do cycling clothing and gear at work and we'll see dozens of sample sets go back and forth till the design is right.

A lot of the custom guys will spend your money when they get it, and then knock off your parts franticly the night before they're due. Cars, bikes, clothing, that's just how it works.

You can mitigate some of these issues by having a good relationship and communication with the builder. Being willing to pay way over the going rate is part of this since it's their sweat and time being used till you're happy.

For Knyte, you might as well consider that your first proto, work it, adjust it sew more on and show it to more builders but don't ever hope that something will come out the first time and be just right.

Yea, this definately isn't the first proto and it won't be the last :P. I made several others myself while waiting for this one.

Pics are comin I gotta wait till the wife gets home so i can find what she did with the camera.

FireRat November 15th, 2007 19:06

phone her lol we want them NOW! :P

WARFIGHTER November 15th, 2007 19:10

Listen, I waited like 9 months for this, you can wait a few hours for pics. :P

WARFIGHTER November 16th, 2007 00:26

Here we go!
Everything:
http://www.mb-airsoft.com/gallery/ma...1/DSC01078.JPG


Admin Pouch
http://www.mb-airsoft.com/gallery/ma...1/DSC01079.JPG


Front Pockets
http://www.mb-airsoft.com/gallery/ma...1/DSC01080.JPG


Loaded out:
http://www.mb-airsoft.com/gallery/ma...1/DSC01081.JPG



The rectangle patch of material is Cordura 1000D Olive Drab, I don't know what material he used here, not that it's bad, it seems fine, but it isn't 1000D cordura, which I was told it would be, and as you can see, it isn't olive drab. Theres also a number of velcro patches he didn't put on...

But anyway, the rig is supposed to sit high on the chest and leave the lower stomach open, for use with a load bearing belt, more suited to sitting in vehicles and bending and whatnot for the weapons det guys...

FireRat November 16th, 2007 19:17

Nice.... so when is the final version coming out and when do I get one? ;)

WARFIGHTER November 16th, 2007 23:53

I'll keep you posted :P

I'm kind of looking for someone to do more prototyping, I just don't have the right equipment or time to do it myself, and am not too experienced for the level of stuff I'm looking to get done.

WARFIGHTER January 18th, 2008 13:13

This stuff is up for sale now.


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