Airsoft AEG Question
 

I am looking into airsoft again, alot of my friends play it and they have a number of guns. There is a big difference between them, some of my friends have 250$ AGE's and some have all metal M4's with tracers and stuff. I was wondering if I should buy a cheap (not clearsoft) AEG to get started and then buy a expensive one later on or just spend the $ and get a good one. Any recommendations on what to do?

Regards
-Mike

only a rich man can afford to buy crap.
buy the most you can get for your money

Wow that was quick, thats what I love about these forums everyone is so helpful and quick. What are the odd's of getting a full metal airsoft gun for around 300-600? Or do you think I am int he wrong market.

500-600 probably not a problem, I would get age verified so you can browse the for sale forums you should be able to find a FMU there

You can definately get a pretty good gun for between 5 and 600.

My friends are age verified and they look around and tell me when they see good deals. I also have a arena that does outdoor games somewhat nearby but we like in the country so we just play outdoors in the neighborhoods. I was also wondering is there a certian brand that is reccomended for starters? I dont want to put down 450+ on a gun that I would have No idea how to fix or stip myself. I am one of those people who take looks over function sometimes. Thats what I did with my gun for my other sport I play (dont shun me!). I think airsoft is great and really want to get a decent looking rifle.

5.00-600.00 dollah? since when did we start importing from ebay? lol just kidding.

Welcome to the asc forum.
If you take the time to read the FAQ section you look into options about getting age verified. We require that all persons be the age of 18 or older to browser our buy and sell sections. Now for your price range you maybe able to pick up a used item that may potentially have the upgrades that you are looking for. However there are certain times where people do list items that have not been used and are still in box. However if you are interested if your price range is in the 300-400 area you can purchase a Jing Gong AEG from say...Anderson & Anderson airsoft online. JG is essentially a clone of Tokyo Marui, albeit keep in mind you do pay for what you get. However, from the reviews I have read JG does perform fairly well. So essentially as it stands for your price range those are your options at this time. If you can be patient and save though, that opens all new doors for you to explore. 700 dollars plus you can start looking at some decent stuff out there, and also for 700 plus you can snag a really decent already upgraded gun off of the sale forums.

Thanks for the welcome. I was just on Anderson airsoft. My friend has the China Air R8 and it is pretty cool. I have read the FAQ a few times. I looked into airsoft about a year and a half ago but I diddnt have a job and diddnt realize that I couldent get the guns from the states. The price inCanada was too much. But now I have a job and alot of people in my area play so yeah. Also does anybody know the status of BuyAirsoft.ca (I think thats the name) people were saying they went out of business.

Please be aware that your friends cannot buy a gun for you legally. You must be over 18 to have an airsoft in your possession.

As for deals, yes, there are plenty of good guns out there so I'd suggest you read a lot or go see the guns in person until you turn 18. By then you will be well informed and ready to buy something decent.

I turn 18 real soon so that is not a issue. Lotto tickets FTW!

Cool, just take your time then.

Oh whats cheaper buying a metal gun or a ABS one and upgrading it to metal. (+ cost of someone else doing it because I wouldent know how.)

It's cheaper to buy a Metal gun than to upgrade a ABS one. Classic army and ICS come with metal bodies.

Well thanks for all your input, I am looking up some reviews on this one here ( http://aasurplus.ca/airsoft/product_...roducts_id=188 ) all this information is really good thanks!

I approve of this guy.

Take your time, bud. Save up for something you'll love, and won't sell a week later (ugh.. memories)..

I can understand your estonishment with pricing for airsoft in Canada. Its a very slim market, and with only 2 people in Cananda with the ability to important, items can run thin at times. But because airsoft is in such a grey area the costs are much higher due to import fees.

Also there is a another option as well. You could buy a used AEG, and then upgrade. Its fairly cost effective. The most expensive thing that I have not even ordered for myself yet is my metal reciver and 1 piece metal barrel and as for internal upgrades, I wouldnt even bother worrying about them till you have gotten your first gun and put through a few thousand rounds at games. But yeah, do lotsa reading and have lotsa paitience and in time it will all come together.

Welcome to ASC

Definetly buy higher end first, then if you have the dough you can go for lower quality equipment. If you buy high end, you'll have a piece of mind of a completely reliable gun while you learn about how an AEG works and how to maintain it, etc. so that if you want a cheaper one for a second gun, you know how to repair it when it breaks down.

Truth.

I'd save up for a Star M4. They look, and perform pretty fucking nicely from what I hear.

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Yeah but the people do hold a monopoly over Canada for Airsoft (from what I have been reading). But it is the only way to get them in the great white north. Yeah but I really want to get into the sport and you cant put a price on fun now can you? (ask the people who have PS3's).

You can pretty much put a price on anything these days.

Feel free to get the same importation permits and become a retailer himself. Until then, we all go through the same importers.

If you think they really make a killing and living from this, you are not correct.

tokyo marui is nice, the internals will easily last a season or two, but it'll cost more to go to a metal body and do all your internals.
save up and buy a classic army, then you just need to put a good tappet plate in it before you use it and it'll be good for a while.
G&P makes AWESOME metal bodies and good internals, but for some reason they dont put springs behind the hopup in armalites so you hopup is really on and off.

HIJACK

I looked into importing myself and I am still confused.

Have PAL for both restricted and non, have FBL application form in hand.

Q. Can I import an air soft gun?

Air soft guns that meet the definition of a replica firearm are prohibited. Replica firearms are devices that resemble a real firearm (other than an antique firearm) with near precision but that cannot cause serious injury or death. Many of these devices have to be assessed case by case to determine if they are replicas.

Individuals cannot import replica firearms. A properly licensed business may be able to import a replica for an approved purpose such as for use in a film or theatrical production.

The Canada Border Services Agency is responsible for controlling the import of air soft guns that are not replicas– for example, devices that resemble a generic firearm but not a specific make or model of firearm. For more information, please contact the Canada Border Services Agency.

Provincial regulations may also apply. For example, some provinces may set a minimum age for acquiring an air soft gun.

Air Soft Guns

14. Most air soft guns are considered replica firearm as defined in subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code. They are clearly designed not only to resemble a firearm with near precision but also to resemble a specific and readily identifiable make and model of firearm. Due to their strong resemblance to real firearms and their lack of capacity to cause serious bodily injury, air soft guns are replica firearms.

:smack:

I have a Prohib Level PAL, and am on the Collector's list. It means nothing for airsoft. So the answer is no.

Hey i just got a glock 18c as a side arm but now i need to buy the big gun.!(ive already taken enough crap for buying the sidearm first so you don't need to tell me) anywayz these are the ones im looking at.I wonder if you can tell me which ones are good ( if any of them are)( i found these on 007 airsoft)
1.Tokyo Marui AK 47 Spetnaz
2.Tokyo Marui M14 (3 different models) I.Full Metal Wood II.Full Metal OD III.SOCOM CQB Full Metal
and laast
3.Tokyo Marui Type 89 Full Metal

so i need some reccomendations you can even reccomend a completely different gun but ive done my research talked to people and even tried them and i love them all.

THX

You still need an import license for prohibited devices.. so you are about 5% there.

If you get a BFL, replica firearms can be legally transfered to you though.. So someone else with an import license could sell their imported guns to you. That transaction would be legal.

You need to illustrate to the CFO a business case for approval of a prohibited device import license.. so pretty much you need to have an operating prop house.. and show actual contracts to supply replicas on set ( that you have used a third party contractor to supply) to convince the CFO that you have a legitimate need to import replicas for your business ( would allow you to not have to use a contractor and make your business more profitable and provide more effective service for your existing client base)

So... you will need to incorporate an business, market it and get work.. then make application.. oh and you need a legitimate business address with secure storage for the guns...

Then you have to be ready to risk your import and and BFL and your PAL with each and every sale of an airsoft gun to an individual... because "technically" such sales are illegal.

If you are in Canada, start by getting age-verified. If you are not in Canada, please say so in your profile.
I know for a fact the TM AK series is a very dependable gun, but the Spetz has a much shorter barrel than the other guns you mention.
If you want to play outdoors, I suggest the normal AK. I dont know the other guns enough to comment, but you can check out the Reviews section or use Google to find more reviews.

If your on a budget you could buy a $350.00 JG/ECHO1 and over time you could upgrade to full metal with systema internals or whatever floats yer boat!

IM willing to spend up to 600 $ So can i put in a longer barrel in the spetnaz

Yup. just cover it with a silencer.

Either add a silencer like Illusion mentioned or add a new tightbore barrel or whatever you want. A new barrel's about 100.00?