tokyo marui famas f1 help
 

alright so today i was able to get out to a game and get age verified :D by don, i also got to play a bunch of games with one of his mp5s. He also had a famas which was out of commission and it really looked amazing to me. I was wondering how hard it would be to upgrade this guns fps and gears? The hi torque motor shouldn't be a problem for an m120 spring right?

From what allot of people have said the FAMAS is VERY hard to upgrade and parts are very hard to find. It might be a little different now though.

yea i've also heard that as well but i was hoping the great people on asc could help me out :)

FAMAS is basically the oldest gun in the TM line up. Aftermarket version 1 gears are about as common as unicorns. If you're going to upgrade one, you're better off sticking with a spring that the stock gear can handle for a while, 110s and below. Besides, MS120 will likely push you over 400fps.

whats the fps like in stock form? cause if its around 300-330 then im happy :) and i love the fact that it can rain hell with that high rof

Only TM I can think of that maybe comes close to shooting over 300 consistently is the M14. Most TMs are around 280-290.

so if i drop a m110 in it should be okay on the gears? or nah? and what would the fps be like with an m110

380fps-ish, depending on airseal and barrel length. If you want to play it safe, I'd go with a MS100 and be satisfied with 340ish.

340 is a nice fps id say, would the ms100 put a lot less strain on the gears? keeping me from having to upgrade them right away?

one thing I heard about the FAMAS though is make sure you get the version that has the hopup as the first version of the FAMAS didn't have one.

Also I also heard that if you break your gearbox, only another FAMAS for parts can help you out. Not sure if that's true though.

Going down in power will always reduce the strain on the gears. I know that V2/3 gears can take 100 quite reliably. I don't know where V1 gears stand, though.

hmm alright, as for hi cap mags for this gun where would i be able to get some. i checked a&a but they do not sell the famas mag

Airsoftparts.ca, tell them to order some for you in.

is their website down right now? cause the servers not found

That would appear to be the case. You can just PM Jugglez on ASC, he's the owner.

Try eHobbyAsia Ebay store for magazines. Really good prices. Probably the lowest.

http://stores.ebay.com/eHobby-Asia-A...dZ2QQpZ2QQtZkm

awesome thanks for the link :), would these get taken by customs or no?

Mags should get through customs no problem. For the MAS, I wouldn't go above a 120% spring. Mine is shooting about 330fps and it's great. I've used it in both woodland and CQB and it performed well in both. In fact, I've gotten longer ranged kills with my MAS than with my G36. I wouldn't upgrade it past 120% though. The GB can handle that fine, anything above it and I would be a little suspect, and it probably isn't worth the risk of breaking the gearbox since replacement parts are hard as hell to come by. As for ROF, it's insane. Empties a standard mag in about 4 seconds.

so much info :D thanks, is yours upgraded or is that shooting stock? if so what have you done to your gun?

Nope, that's upgraded. Stock it shoots about 280. This MAS was upgraded by the guys at warcraft out in BC with a 120% spring and steel bushings.

what do bushings do for the mechbox?

hmmm alright, just one more question, what kind of mods can be fitted onto the famas, like silencers and scopes and stuff

Comes with a RAS for RDS and scopes. No stock capacity to accept any other accessories, including silencer.

SV version has spots for slings, F1 version has a bipod instead. Recommend you read some reviews before asking anything else.

hmmm, i think i have most of the info i need. I have read a few reviews and some were very different. Some say its good some say its really bad:P all i really needa know now is if someone would be able to upgrade my gearbox for me :P when i do eventually get a famas

There's a DIY guide available, kinda pricey if you ask me: http://www.airsoftpress.com/famasupg.htm

Alternatively, contact Ontario gunsmiths.

There is a site you can search using google that gives step by step instructions on how to upgrade a FAMAS.

could you link me to this site on google?

have you ever done gearbox upgrading?

its a fucking bitch to do I recommend you get someone experienced to do it.

Took me 2 nights to figure that shit out on my first upgrade, without any help from anyone. And I came close to breaking the gun a gazillion times.

not sure of any one who knows how to manage a version one gear box :P i was thinking of finding some tutorials on how to upgrade a v1 but if i cant find any ill have to find someone :P

Simply put, if you want to do anything beyond a 120% spring (330-ish fps) don't get a FAMAS. It's not really an upgradeable gun.

well 330 fps is fine for me for a starting gun id say, and do v2/v3 gears fit into a v1 gear box or no?

also could any one with a tm famas tell me how well it performs in a game?

I owned a SV version for a while and it was exteremly consistant at about 275 fps, I also modded on a rail to the bottom of the battery case to carry a M203:D and then later a flash light. All you need is a couple of small screws and nuts from a hardware store and a VSR-10 scope mount, just drill a couple of holes in it and through the battery case and presto you've got a nice little acessory mounting pad, also use a M16 carry handle mount and drill a hoe in the top of the handle and you can have a scope or RDS as well. The gun is un-upgradable as the piston is unique to the gun and cannot be removed from the spring so sorry man, your stuck with a stock gun, as well the motor cannot be changed without some serious mods to the gearbox and it is an old motor (EG 650/550) :rrr: But the gun performs very well both indoor and outdoor but as it cannot be upgraded there is a slight disadvantage when playing outdoors. My advice to you greyfox, it is not the best choice for a starter gun as it is difficult to fix and even harder to get accessories, get somthing alot more upgradable before going to somthing like a FAMAS

are you sure you cant upgrade the spring? because many people on here have upgraded theres

i have a vertical grip on mine, and i removed my bipod for additional rails in its place. i can send you pics of it, PM me if you want to see, internals are pretty much stock. worst part about the FAMAS, is Low Caps are expensive if bought brand new, getting them used is the way to go

i can get 3 high caps for 69 dollars :P ill pm you in a few mins

LIES ALL LIES!!!!!!! :) But I did like the grenade launcher
You can remove the spring from the piston on TM guns. You just gotta know how. Ken (007) showed me one day. It took him about 30 seconds and with his bare hands yet. You can put ANY size spring in you want. The motor probably won't turn it but if it does you'll get one heck of a shot before the plastic bushings deform from the strain and throws the gears out of alignment and chews them up.
The first thing you should do is put in Metal bushings. If you can find the V1 that is. You can put in V2 Bushings but the holes in the V1 shell are slightly smaller so you'll probably need to line ream the holes.
What everyone has been saying about springs is right. something between 330 - 360 fps anything higher and the motor starts to work pretty hard

which is the price of one low cap. most players use low caps to keep the Milsim feel of airsoft

i can get a low cap for 14 dollars :P

GreyFox, the MAS is a fun gun, but definetly not a starter gun. It's old, hard to upgrade, doesn't have a lot of options, etc etc. It's a great platform for a secondary though, but for a starter you should probably go for something with a v2 or v3 gearbox.

ehh if it needs fixing ill figure it out :), i like taking things apart and putting them back together. I've found a few sites WGC and Uncompany, they both have a fair bit of the parts i would need if the famas would break. The only real thing i will be doing to the gun is adding a silencer which has an adaptor for the famas. If i do need help however, google or the good people on this site should be able to give me the info i need :)

Just a question... if you were already 100% dead set on the FA-MAS, what exactly were you asking us? We've told you it's strengths and weaknesses, for which it has many for a new player, and you keep shooting them down...

trying to find info which i didn't not know about it. and sorry for shooting you down, i just like the famas,

Yeah know I heard somewhere that you can use regular m16/m4 mags if you mod the guns magwell or the mag itself, its hazy I dont remeber exact details.

i read that on a review i think, some said it just fits naturally but im not even sure:P

The modification needs to be done on both, the magwell, since the gun is plastic it is easy also it is not a visible mod (Unless you stand up in the middle of a firefight and pop the mag out and shout "Hey look, I got M16 mags to fit in my Famas") Plus it still allows the use of the stock famas mag.
Also the M16 mags need to be modified slightly as well but the modification still allows them to be used in the M16 / M4 you're gonna get later.

thats kool, oh well ill just buy the actual mags much easier and requires less effort :)
also what silencer is this guy using?
http://www.tacticalair.com/203_FAMAS_1.jpg

if anyone is interested i have found this site :P
http://airsoftfamastech.jconserv.net/index.php, says that v2 helical gears will fit in a famas gear box :D which is some good news forme

please tell me where!!!

sry its actually 15 dollars :P MY bAD :)
http://search.stores.ebay.com/eHobby...665468QQsofpZ0

That looks fracking rediculous. Please do not murder a FA-MAS by doing anything like that.

In order to use M16 mags you either have to modify the magwell, in which case it will never except MAS mags again, or you have to modify the magazines, in which case they won't work in anything but a MAS. Everything I've read about this has said it's a difficult procedure that usually results in feeding problems, and the M16 mags are larger than the MAS mags and tend to get in the way a lot. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

i dont wanna destroy the carrying handle, i just want the silencer T_T

also why do people say it is so nonupgradeable? v2/v3 stuff works with the gear box just fine :P, i plan on getting a set of helical gears and a new piston set for the gun :) as well as a m120 spring

Having done the mods required I've not had any problems with using the original Famas mags in the Famas or the modified M16 Mags in the famas and he modified M16 mags still work in all my M16 & M4s. No feeding issues either. I guess it is possible to mess it up so nothing works but hopefully you'd think some one would ask for advice before they got too far.