BUYAIRSOFT.CA BACK UP!!!!
 

Yea! THey got stock in now, tons of items (mainly clear plastic) But yea... there back!

omgzxorz. moar craap softs!

:) I know. But alot of people said they were dead, I prove them wrong! i said they live, they live!

If all they are gonna bring in is clear stuff they are dead as far as the airsoft community is concerned.

i was like wtf it says the site is down... then i realized we were not talking about godzilla....

ok now i can officialy delete that site from my bookmark. Buyairsoft.ca is dead for good, and worstnow we know were kids will get their toy to shoot at school...

You know what? These are the guns you can get at Canadian Tire.

Woohoo! Look at me! I'm being over charged for shit I could pick up at a local store!

"But wait! There are not all clear guns!" I already hear some cry...

Krylon. Love it.

Man, for some reason seeing this really kicked a perfect evening in the balls... God damnit!

I'm suprised they are overcharging for the Co2 air pistols. I thought they would have rock bottom prices for those.

just took alook ...and i believe ....yep....i def. threw up in my mouth alittle bit :o

Atleast it wasn't poop. :(

In their defense, they do say:

"We would first like to apologize to anyone who has sent us emails over the past 2 months during the time we have been out of operation. Due to recent events, BuyAirsoft.Ca will not be bringing back any regular supply of “Black” airsoft for the remainder of the 2007 year. We thank you all for your patience and understanding in this matter, and look forward to sending you items from our brand new product line. Happy shopping!"

I certainly hope they get back on track in 2008. :confused:

what the shit? i just checked their stock (which i now regret) and i cant believe that its even possible for a canadian company to so shamelessly sell garbage products, canadian tire gets away with it cuz they dont specialize in airsoft... but these guys are fucking pathetic.. but i guess thats what happens when you dont have the proper licenses :P but still, the guns hes selling, you might as well buy from cyma, at least theyll charge you like under a buck for what these guys are selling for 90 bucks

Looking at that made my balls hurt. This really chaps my sac.

This really takes the shit outta pissing.

Crapsoft & pellet guns from an Airsoft site? now im confused and agreed bookmark deleted permantly

lol, didnt even notice the pellet guns :P normally, i would get one (not for use on people) but these ones are pretty crappy... i mean, a partially ABS pellet berretta? i can walk down the street and get a full metal one thats licenses and warrantied by beretta... it would be 300 bucks, but i guess its true what they say "you get what you pay for"

The prices are friggin high. I mean hell, a clear TM AK clone usually goes for about $100 in the States. After shipping and taxes (and they obviously get it cheaper from a wholesaler, probably around $50 or so), it would end up under $150 for sure. Fuck that.

Holy crap, their pellet gun prices suck ass as well. You'd expect them to beat the competition since they don't have to waste money on a walk in store, but I can get pretty much each of those models at Lebarons store (several locations in Toronto, and they do online orders) cheaper. I got that Beretta Elite for $50. PPKs go for about 70, and so on.

lol, well itll be their own fault when they go out of bussiness for flooding the market with over priced shit shooters

Good lord, Ive never seen so much poorsoft in one place.

Even when they stock a wider range of guns, 400ish$ for a JG or CYMA?

Fail.

+1 major fail

Even S.I.R has the same things with better prices. are u kidding me.

Great. Now we'll have to deal with underaged, .177 airgun-ninjas

*karate chops monitor* i know... shame on them :rolleyes:

Crapsoft killed jesus.

jesus is a myth... if anything killed jesus.. it was logic.. the logic that lead you to realise that there is no proof that shows evidence of his existance or any of his so called divine powers.

*pistol whips the pope* c'mon, these people dont even believe the bullshit they feed us, just trying to use the most powerful weapons of all against us.. fear and shame

It was a joke. :rolleyes:

...relax?

indeed :P sorry, got carried away, i do that alot *-)

Crapsoft promotes child slavery.

It also causes global warming and is destroying the ozone layer, and is responsible for at least 90% of all teenage pregnancies...

DAM IT you sotle my saying for clearsoft!!! and yea what truefret said they are dead to the airsoft commuinty.

p.s. i just threw up in my mouth a little...... As***le

HaHa your going to hell

Wow, that's what my girlfriend told me about my clothes. I believed her too.

"please don't be so mean" ?

Are you feeling okay?

No, i'm responsible for that one.

He definitely wasn't being sarcastic.

My preceding statement couldn't be sarcastic either.
-VM

Fuck right off. I was joking around.

Really? But armalites can.. right?

Like clearsoft, this thread needs to go in the trash.

Over and out.

You missed one; http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...6/Systema2.jpg

The problem here in Canada is the only way you can legally sell a 'replica' (as airsoft is currently classified) is as a firearms dealer, to customers with PALs. Not much of a market in that I'm afraid, unless we all go and get ours and lobby the Wolverines and Shooting Edges out there to carry.

Theres really nothing Buyairsoft.ca can do but what they are doing if they intend to remain operational. The reason some shops manage for periods of time is really just by being low profile, staying off the radar, not through any legal licensing.

Hopefully one day our hobby will be granted a special paintball/sport status, but quite frankly I just don't see it with the realism. It freaks people out. We'll likely continue to survive on the fringe as we have on a hand to mouth supply of new guns.

hmm their ICS section still exists..

although the email, that someone posted on ASC about them not having any "black" guns in, is clear.... i still have hope.

these guys had the cheapest ICS airsoft. seriously.. too bad it walked away from me

hoping for the best. im sure there might be a few "accidental mishshippings"

I sure as hell never heard of something like this to be remotely true. Would sure solve a lot of problems!

hobosoft gave me herpes and killed my mother

they had a way to import real airsoft and somehow they got noticed and now it's dead.
that's my theory :D

But now that some paintball markers are getting close to being replicas (at least without the tank), I wonder if that could help Airsoft.

OOOOH gaaawd,

i couldn't beleve it when i've looked on their site today, i guess someone from a&a airsoft must be having a boner today when he realised how things turned out. It really is pathetic.

yeah I was suprized to see them like that when I received the SIR catalogue a few days ago. Still looks silly with the "fruit basket" on top of the paint ball gun.

btw I am starting to feel sorry for buyairsoft now that we keep beating it like a dead horse. lol.

Not really, those tactical markers aren't the foundation of paintball. If it comes right down to it, they'd just give up on that particular direction of development, again.

Interesting note, many airsoft guns are illegally acquired (can't transfer replicas between individuals) but beyond that all are basically completely legally owned (no licences for replicas, replicas exempt from prosecution for just having it). On the other hand, the majority of paintball markers acquired and/or owned by individuals under 18 and without a PAL are in fact illegal, because a standard 3.2g paintball fired at a standard field limit of 280fps well exceeds 5.7J of muzzle velocity (in fact, most are perfectly capable of going beyond that), making those paintball markers technically firearms. Something else to think about the next time you share the field with paintballers.

At the end of the day, our predicament is a matter of who's interpreting what part of the law they're responsible for. Paintball's bipolar approach to realistic appearance is not so much hypocracy as an internal fight over how to keep off the PC radar.

No. It has to both exceed the energy limit, and the 500fps limit to be a firearm. If one of those is not exceeded, its not.

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowDoc...dese:84-ss:_3_

It's not an "and", it's an "or".

Actually its to NOT be considered a firearm:

(Mv < 152.5m/s || Me < 5.7j) != firearm

Therefor his statement was correct, it has to exceed both to be a firearm.

You're reading the wrong "or".

Not the above "or". The above simply states that the weapon, in order not to be considered a firearm, cannot do the following:

Those two "or". Paintball markers can and do exceed 5.7J, and they don't need to also exceed 152.4m because it's an "or" not an "and". Therefore, they're firearms if the courts or law enforcement ever need to come down on them. There was actually notable debate in C-10A, the amendment that the above section came from, over whether it should be "or" or "and".

Let me put it to you simply this way. There are MANY .22 caliber pellet guns here in Canada with the rating of just under 500fps, with pellets 11-15grains at that velocity. That exceeds the energy limit, but not the velocity limit. Not a firearm, no PAL required, I own several.

That's what I meant though, its one OR the other that aren't met then it ISN'T a firearm.

deemed not to be firearms if the weapon is not designed or adapted to discharge a shot, bullet or other projectile at a muzzle velocity exceeding 152.4 m per second or at a muzzle energy exceeding 5.7 Joules


Anyway that's how I'm reading it... legalese makes my head hurt. Where's Lawdog??

There are also people selling airsoft guns between individuals, which is supposed to be a no-no. My whole point is that not all laws are enforced the way they're written. Your example only shows how bizarre Canada's control of replica firearm can be.

I'm pretty sure it has to be both, altho iv been told etheir one = firearm. but you will see pellet guns that are sold that have +500fps but under the joule speed and you don't need a firearm license.

Any pellet guns over 500 FPS need a PAL. Otherwise the business selling them is doing so illegally.

After rereading the hansard on that particular amendment, it looks like I'm wrong and ancorp and Drake are right. Really crappily written law, if I have to dig up hearing records to see that.

That seems unlikely, seeing as how the smallest commonly-available caliber pellet/BB you'll find is .177cal (4.5mm), which are typically 7.9 grains (just a bit over 0.5 gram) -- posted velocities for .177 cal guns are usually based on that pellet weight.

Quick muzzle energy calculation yields 5.95j at the muzzle. (for 7.9gr @ 500fps)

Common .22 cal pellets are in usually in the neighborhood of 14 gr and are over the 5.7j limit well before 500 fps (360 fps for a 14.6gr pellet, to be precise).

I highly doubt the 5.7j limit was chosen arbitrarily.

I believe the law was updated from just 500fps to both due to light pellets that came out, that would put a 500fps gun over the FPS limit but not the energy limit. Unfortunately that only works for .177, not .22. I never did understand.

Yeah, they tacked on a muzzle energy limit to protect airguns from having to be registered because of the light-weight pelletes. I don't think the people making the decision fully comprehended all the technical issues involved, and the witnesses from the shooting interests didn't bother to oblige them.

both right and wrong.
under the Criminal code.. wrong... either exceed the FPS OR exceed the energy, then firearm (restricted)
under the Firearms Act, both FPS AND energy need to be exceeded then its a firearm

That is why markers can be imported cuz their firearms under the Criminal Code (but not a firearm under the Firearms Act) so they can't be replicas....

If airsoft guns can shoot high FPS (say like pellet guns) but still have low energy, then its a firearm under the Criminal Code, but not a firearm under the Firearms Act... this will put them in the same category as pellet guns, and may likely remove the classification of replicas....