Manufacture AEG in Canada?
 

Just something pop out of my head. We know we can't import airsoft guns. How abuot manufacturng? Can I setup a factory and manufacture them here? I know it is crazy. But hey, IT IS FRIDAY.:p

No, for a variety of legal reasons. It's been looked into before.

That, and the insane cost the gun would have, since the market is so damned small.

You dont need to, you can get mags and other internals no problem.
You just need to fabricate metal bodies.

My comment still applies

Allright, I start with building my own AEG.

Manufacturing replica firearms is illegal without the proper licenses.

although.... the point made above.... that you don't need to manufacture the entire gun... just parts... which could then be assembled into a complete gun from various sources does have merit.... I suspect however that it would be cost prohibitive

Why don't you make a V3 armalite? :p Seriously..

Agreed. It really is a money thing.

There is a non restricted rifle called a 180B that comes with a somewhat fragile polymer lower. There are a couple of guys doing limited runs of aluminum lowers on CNC machines for it here in Canada.

Last estimate was $500 EACH.

I've been waiting for these guys to produce something. Looks promising, but if demand grows, price will drop. Then maybe.

Tempting idea, but like everyone else has stated, it really is just the issue of cost.

I don't see how the market is small. Just because we cant bring the receivers IN, doesn't mean if one was to manufacture them here, one could not ship OUT to other countries. That way everybody wins. The guys over the border get another option for metal bodies, and we get reasonably priced parts.

Who wouldn't love that?

I really hope people are taking note of that V3 armalite comment..

Yea yea...Armalites :rolleyes:

i did, start measuring

your market would get so much larger if you built that. It doesn't matter what country you come from V2's suck everywhere

V3 Armalite? Sexy...

Legalities aside, the real point in case is that the manufacturing of goods gets sent abroad.

Even if you had a potential market for a million units, you won't find labour in Canada that can compete with the price of labour in China. Unless you're offering something no one else is offering, people will go for the better deal. Even if you are offering something of superior quality (such as CNC machined parts) the higher cost will erode your market base.

So your market is pretty much only Canadian, and that would assume parts and guns couldn't be imported at all, which isn't currently the case.

Damn, I've been trying to mill a V2 mechbox out of stainless steel, just for fun. Looks like I need to try out a V3 instead.

I'd grab one so fast, yours eardrums would burst.

Don't hold your breath. It was something I was trying out for an experiment. I wanted to see if my mill could handle making something small so I used the lower half of an ICS mechbox. It worked out ok, but I'm definitely no fabrication tech. When my roomie gets back from the north pole I'll ask him to make a V3 out of billet stainless and see if it's cost effective. Again, I wouldn't hold your breath.

lol.. No worries man. I'm just dreaming..

I did a measure-up once of a v3 gearbox against an Armalite... unless you want your receiver to NOT look like an Armalite... then you won't be jamming a v3 gearbox in to an M4 or M16 any time soon.

As for manufacturing replicas in Canada - there's something you may have heard of called "copyright law" that's pretty heavy-handed and well-enforced in Canada. I'm sure the cost of that legal suit will cost you WAY more than any money you'd make or save off manufacturing that part.

Why can metal parts be replicated/manufactured in Taiwan with near 1:1 precision? Because Taiwan is a copyright black hole. For whatever reason, international copyright law doesn't apply in Taiwan - they can't be touched.

As for replicas made in China? That government is so corrupt, as long as local enforcement is paid off, they'll turn a blind eye.

Some days I wonder if these clones are coming from a place like those Chinese brick factories, where they kidnap people and force them into slavery. Then when you get caught, the government kills you. That'd never happen here.

:confused:

Creepy shit..

stainless is crap, use 4140 steel or 7075 aluminum :)

Who cares? We're getting cheaply priced replicas for airsoft. That's all that concerns me.

:cool:

Crapsoft: promotes child slavery.

Um, I think I found my new slogan...

Probably because it's not considered a legitimate state. ;)

OK..so what about getting the bodies built in pieces that pass code and are assembled here in Canukistan?

Now where did I put that loophole detector??

Bodies in pieces? What, like a Jigsaw puzzle to assemble the solid receiver? :rolleyes:

Or so you think... O_o

Just like the 80% receivers for real ARs? Let me know if you find that loophole detector. I may need to borrow it from you!!

If only i could find someone to make me a ppsh reciever legally. Can you say gas powered monster

Gaa.. Gaaaa... sssssss.. pooer Munst..Moonstur? Nope, can't say it.

none of that gas in the mag shit. An asahi full auto unit with a lrb:p :p

Hey, if you want to pony up for other metals I can experiment with, send it on down. I used stainless because my roomie had a few chunks of it lying around and it was unguarded. It did turn out a lot better than your standard mechbox metal.

Interesting to see all steel AEG this and that, full steel bodies/barrels/mags/etc, and yet noone has yet to release a steel mechbox shell.

It's called a Systema PTW :wink:

Ohh yeaaahh.. 2 months man.. 2 fucking months..

That's exactly why I was working on one. It was much more difficult than I thought it would be.