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DC_ACU August 9th, 2007 17:16

question about gump...
 
ok so heres the scoop...
back in january, my mechbox was givien to gump to re glue a post in it, and make sure it was in good working order again... i got the mechbox back about 3-4 months later, in the mail, in a bag that had several rips in it. the mechbox was completely dissassembled, with many pieces missing (tappet plate, safety switch, etc) so i asked him if i sent my whole M4 CASV back up, in full, if he could make sure the gun was in full working order.

it has been nearly 2 months since the gun has been in toronto, waiting for him to put it back together, and me to go pick it up.

i understand that he is doing this as a favor to me, but is it really a favor that iv missed almost half the season, because he is taking his sweet ass time?
i call him every 2-3 days, just to see if i can get a response out of him, to see how far along the project is, and he never answers, and the times that he does answer its very short and sweet, and he tells me 'i have free time in the next few days, it will be done then.'

dont get me wrong, im not trying to bad mouth the guy or anything, i just want my gun back, and in working order, so i can enjoy what i spent so much money on.

so what im wondering here is if anyone that talks to him regularly can get ahold of him and let him know that id like to pick up my M4, whether it be in working order or not, and instead of him fixing it, just give me the parts that were lost, and ill figure out some other means of getting it back together.

thanks for your time.

DC_ACU August 9th, 2007 17:45

problem solved, thanks to whoever called.

Gump August 9th, 2007 18:38

Seemingly by convenience, you ommited the little bits of the story that are most relevant, so heres the whole thing for everyone to see:
you gave a disassembeled mechbox to atreyu to have me repair it for you
At no time during this process, did i realize that it was for someone else - i thought it was HIS!
the repair was to fix the broken post that the switch slams against, and i repaired it precisely and perfectly
the bag, as it arrived to me, had a HOLE IN IT, leaving me to figure out weather or not I lost the parts or they were lost enroute to my place
the bag sat there for a while in the winter, and during that time, all this crap with atreyu went down. i actually forgot where the damned thing came from, because he never got back to me about it - very obviously, he COULDNT get back to me on it
the box was not reassembeled, as I assumed that the disassembeler could reassemble it
You were charged $60.00 for the repair by heather/atreyu - i charged them NOTHING because it was an easy repair
When i found out the real story, I told you i felt bad about the whole thing, even though it had NOTHING to do with me, and offered to replace the parts and assemble the BOX for free
You then started to try to make arrangements to get me to put the WHOLE GUN back together, to which I offered NO RESISTANCE
You couldn't manage to meet up with me for some reason, and I even told you it could probably be done in an hour or so if you could make it to my house
You then made arrangements with me for me to go get it from someone elses house, in downtown toronto, without ANY RESISTANCE from me
I picked it up a week and a half ago... maybe even 2 weeks ago.
And on top of all this, unbeknowst to you and everyone else in the airsoft world, the last 5 weeks of my life I've been training for and learning a COMPLETELY NEW JOB which has been very demending of my time and brain power.
Now I see this post on ASC.

My charitable nature when it comes to airsoft repairs has come to an end.
Your gun is going back to the place I picked it up from.
I will not take responsibility for the missing parts, as I have since completely cleaned up the exact area where the bag of parts sat for so long and found NONE of the missing pieces.
Anyone else who wants airsoft repairs from here on in will be charged at a rate of $200.00 PER HOUR, and if thats too much then theres lots of other places to get it done.
If anyone has an opinion and wants to share it with me, you'll have to contact me elsewhere, as I very rarely ever use this site.

DC_ACU August 9th, 2007 19:24

like i said, i never intended to start some huge drama over this, gump is completely correct on the full story, other than the fact that i have messeges saved, from him saying that 'he is done with his old job, and has a lot of free time on his hands'. he mentioned to me once that he was training for his new job and was busy for a few days, but from what he had told me it would have only taken an hour to fix my aeg.

I would like to apologize to those that read this post and somehow thought i was slandering gumps name, because i was not intending to. if you took it that way you should go back and read it again.


im sure any of you would feel the same way if your primary AEG had not been in your possession for the past half year.

Ronan August 9th, 2007 21:41

I know i would be piss about not having my AEG for a couple months.

Good luck with your gun/mechbox, and with your new job Grump!

Scarecrow August 9th, 2007 23:03

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Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 516256)
im sure any of you would feel the same way if your primary AEG had not been in your possession for the past half year.

Simply put Heather and Atreyu abused Gump's charity work. They accepted broken guns, FRAUDULENTLY presented themselves as gunsmiths, had Gump fix the guns for free, took the guns back and charged the end user. Thats beyond low class. It makes me sick. I've known Gump for going on 5 years now and he's fixed about 5 of my guns without ever asking me for a penny. I usually take him to dinner to show him my appreciation. For those in the community who don't know, he likes Pho and Korean BBQ.

When Gump does charity gun work, its ON HIS TIME AND HIS TERMS. How DARE you accuse him of being negligent when in essence he was doing you a favor. You know what Atreyu and Heather did. Don't transfer that to Gump as somehow being accountable to you.

Your issue is with Atreyu and Heather. One is in jail and the other is probably in hiding. If you have anything to complain about it is their behaviour and misrepresentations.

I suggest you learn to fix your own mechboxes now because I am pretty sure you're going to have a hard time finding anyone who will touch yours going forward.

bruce August 10th, 2007 00:09

Gump is the most gentle fellow here on ASC. He's always ready to help a fellow out with any problems they have on their guns. I can trust this guy 100%!

Omi-san August 10th, 2007 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecrow (Post 516404)
Simply put Heather and Atreyu abused Gump's charity work. They accepted broken guns, FRAUDULENTLY presented themselves as gunsmiths, had Gump fix the guns for free, took the guns back and charged the end user. Thats beyond low class. It makes me sick.

Holy crap...sleazebags.

Lakonian August 10th, 2007 00:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scarecrow (Post 516404)
Simply put Heather and Atreyu abused Gump's charity work. They accepted broken guns, FRAUDULENTLY presented themselves as gunsmiths, had Gump fix the guns for free, took the guns back and charged the end user.

Wow. I hope Atreyu meets Bubba..

Damn bastards..

Zeonprime August 10th, 2007 00:57

Gump is the person that coined (for me anyway) the term GUNGOD...and Mygawd he loves his Pho!! Damn man do you want some dog with that Cat!
Good luck with the new job!

Aquamarine August 10th, 2007 01:17

Although I'm the reason that Gump left ASC, I still considered him a very good guy and very knowledgeable. I don't see how someone could complain about him.

Armyissue August 10th, 2007 01:19

Hey Unusual sex acts Nazi, I didn't know you like to eat Gumps P0o.
Eh C DC ICU, smartn Up, if you don't tell the whole story in the first post cuz you too lazy to type you'll find yourself typing and extra ten thousand words covering your ass. Congratulations on the new rate Gump, your worth every cent. I've got 2 of your old ASG's so I don't have any worries lol.
Cheers

Gump August 10th, 2007 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 516256)
im sure any of you would feel the same way if your primary AEG had not been in your possession for the past half year.

I'm terribly tired, but rightfully fed up with the incorrect information that you CONTINUE to post.

YOUR PRIMARY AEG HAS BEEN IN MY POSESSION FOR NOT MORE THAN 2 WEEKS
and the rest of the story about the parts bag was disclosed above.
Your stuff will be returned to the person I got it from. i will be away all weekend, and try to contact them monday to make arrangements to get it back to them for you.


And yes, when I left my old job, I though there would be a lot of time on my hands, and boy was I fucking wrong. Sometimes things don't turn out as you expect them to.

DC_ACU August 10th, 2007 02:43

alright, first and foremost, i can see why your all mad, but why cant you guys read what i said? it was politely put, that all i wanted to do was get my gun back... gump i never meant any harm by it, i called you atleast once a week, just to see if you had picked the gun up yet, for almost 2 months, now all of you can take sides and flame me, but come on... all i wanted was my gun back, and you havent answered your phone for me to tell you that, and im sick of wasting my time trying to get ahold of you, so i figured someone on here that would know you would simply just let you know.

and i didnt feel the need to post ANYTHING about atreyu or heather because those two are just fuckin out there, the result of them charging me was delt with, i was paid back in full without any arguement, and that was the last of it.

i didnt mean to cause any feud on here, but i knew it would of turned out this way.

DC_ACU August 10th, 2007 03:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yuxi (Post 516446)
Why did you not post the story in the same detail as Gump DC_ACU?

this is my last post on this subject, after this i cannot care any more about this thread, as it has gone WAY out of control.

my answer to this question is i do not want to be known throughout the airsoft community that i may have been someone that befriended atreyu in any way.
i did not see a need for that in the main thread, evidently i was incorrect.

now i will say it for the last time, for the record.

I am sorry to gump, for what may have been what seemed to some of you that this was meant to slander his name, or put him down in ANY WAY. i just wanted my AEG back, without any more delay.
in my eyes i dont see how i should have to apologize,
but im doing it anyways, just because this has gone FAR out of control.

Scarecrow August 10th, 2007 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 516493)
all i wanted was my gun back, and you havent answered your phone for me to tell you that, and im sick of wasting my time trying to get ahold of you, so i figured someone on here that would know you would simply just let you know...

i didnt mean to cause any feud on here, but i knew it would of turned out this way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gump (Post 516236)
When i found out the real story, I told you i felt bad about the whole thing, even though it had NOTHING to do with me, and offered to replace the parts and assemble the BOX for free
You then started to try to make arrangements to get me to put the WHOLE GUN back together, to which I offered NO RESISTANCE
You couldn't manage to meet up with me for some reason, and I even told you it could probably be done in an hour or so if you could make it to my house
You then made arrangements with me for me to go get it from someone elses house, in downtown toronto, without ANY RESISTANCE from me
I picked it up a week and a half ago... maybe even 2 weeks ago.

DC_ACU, when Gump says 'comes and get it' you drop what you're doing and go do it. This isn't retail. You're lucky he's even taking the time to look at it.

For anyone out there dealing with Gump on a gun, this has simply driven me nuts for years, and I have seen it over and over again. If you rely on him to fix an extended problem involving parts, it will be on his time and availability, period. Its being done as a favor - full stop.

If you want your gun in your posession throughout, you take it to him, have it diagnosed. You drive there when he says he available, you sit with him when he inspects it, get his opinion and then take it back and book a date and time for repair once you have the repair parts in hand. You then go back at his convenience and stay for the duration of the repair and learn how he does it, which he freely shows people. If thats not possible, get it done somewhere else or leave it with him. If you leave it with him, again, its on HIS schedule, NOT yours.

Why is he upset? Your lack of detail about what occurred, the sequence and what commitment he made to you on it, and the implication that he was unduely holding your goods. Its an attack on his character and he and others who know him have every right to respond to that. You've gone after someone this community holds in very high regard and who is owed a debt of thanks by a lot of people. You on the other hand are relatively unknown and have no stock with any of us. Think about it.

You made the decision to take your laundry on this and post it on the boards for everyone to see, so welcome to the consequences of that ill thought out decision.

Since Gump's not going to do this anymore this is all academic.

P.S. This isn't a flame. This isn't anywhere near a flame. You've ended up looking foolish by virtue of the nature of your own post and you have only yourself to thank for it.

Blackthorne August 10th, 2007 09:39

He was the builder of the one and only mechbox that has lasted practically my whole airsoft career, and that box is still going. His shim work is unsurpassed.

No offense to Gump, as he is truly a master, but I just have to say this..

It's a fucking mechbox, not a goddamn liquid fuel rocket engine.

The instructions to tear down every version are on the interweb, usually with pictures and sometimes even video.

LEARN TO FIX IT YOURSELF. IT AIN'T MAJIC JU JU.

You want custom call Gump. You want anything else, you can probably handle it.

And if you are still worried, rip a chicken in half and rub the blood all over your body and pray to whatever God you pray to.

ILLusion August 10th, 2007 18:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne (Post 516563)
He was the builder of the one and only mechbox that has lasted practically my whole airsoft career, and that box is still going. His shim work is unsurpassed.

No offense to Gump, as he is truly a master, but I just have to say this..

It's a fucking mechbox, not a goddamn liquid fuel rocket engine.

The instructions to tear down every version are on the interweb, usually with pictures and sometimes even video.

LEARN TO FIX IT YOURSELF. IT AIN'T MAJIC JU JU.

You want custom call Gump. You want anything else, you can probably handle it.

And if you are still worried, rip a chicken in half and rub the blood all over your body and pray to whatever God you pray to.



^^^ post of the year.

Scarecrow August 10th, 2007 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackthorne (Post 516563)
And if you are still worried, rip a chicken in half and rub the blood all over your body and pray to whatever God you pray to.

...okay I am covered in chicken guts, and have prayed to Allen Greenspan for low interest rates and a high dollar... whats the next step?

Drache August 10th, 2007 23:23

sacrifice 30 airsoft virgins!

JTF27 August 10th, 2007 23:31

Call Gieco and in 15 minutes you could save money on your car insurence. The Gecko said it was true so I must believe him.

Lakonian August 10th, 2007 23:32

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Originally Posted by Drache (Post 517087)
sacrifice 30 airsoft virgins!

No, it's actually jack yer wank to Rosie O'donnel..

Drache August 10th, 2007 23:51

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Originally Posted by kos (Post 517095)
No, it's actually jack yer wank to Rosie O'donnel..

Id rather have a broken AEG.....

GreyFox132 August 10th, 2007 23:54

give geico caveman an air soft rifle and see if air soft is easy enough that a caveman can do it?
also i don't know gump but I'm gonna say thats a pretty shitty thing to do to a guy who's so generous

Lakonian August 10th, 2007 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 517110)
Id rather have a broken AEG.....

Heheheh.....

Agreed.

Drache August 10th, 2007 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by kos (Post 517116)
Heheheh.....

Agreed.

I mean, not even a bottle of my grandpa's 'shine and my over active imagination could EVER make that look good enough.....

Lakonian August 11th, 2007 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drache (Post 517123)
I mean, not even a bottle of my grandpa's 'shine and my over active imagination could EVER make that look good enough.....

How about a ..... gopher?

Drache August 11th, 2007 00:19

I will not jack a gopher off sam I am, I would rather eat green eggs and ham.....


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