Echo 1
 

Is it possible to get an Echo 1 M16 in Canada? I've read allot of good reviews about it, and I'm considering purchasing one, but I haven't found any sites that sell them to Canada.

Talk to *******... get Age verified and he can get them for you. In fact, he has a few for sale in the Classifieds section.

:( I can't be age verified (I'm only 16), I use my parents to get me Airsoft, Pellet Rifle etc... Is there any way I could buy off of him other than through the classifieds?

how much is he selling the m16 for in classified

also is Trevor trustworthy, because hes offering echo1 m16 for 315ish plus shipping

No. It is illegal to own an airsoft gun (considered replica firearms) until you are 18.

I don't "own" it, technically it would be my parents because they pay for it, but with my money, so the contract is in their name, therefore it should be legal.

Bzzzzt.

Wrong answer.

http://files.samhart.net/humor/fail.jpg

What contract?

This is you playing with fire, and contributing to the hardships we ADULTS currently face in this sport.

Don't expect to get hugs, bubblegum and lollipops for stating:

1) you are looking for a way to break the law.
2) you are trying to circumvent the rules put in place to protect both you AND this sport on ASC (Age Verification and access to classifieds).
3) trying to what a hundred other kids tried to do, and look for loopholes and expect this community to help you out. There are none. Deal with it.

A mature person under 18 would understand that by purchasing and/or owning an airsoft piece, they are hurting this sport. Instead, mature under-agers happily lurk the boards, learning as much as possible and patiently wait until they are of legal age. There are a bunch here, although they are usually the exception to the rule.

Since you fail to fall in this category, well..... if it looks, talks and walks like a duck....

A little info on that rebrander—

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHO_1

That information contradicts itself. How can they be an American company that "builds" in the US, yet they're simply rebranded Chinese JG/CYMA/KART items?

So they get the Chinese guns, rebrand them in the US, and call them American built?

Typical Americans :rolleyes:

Yep you got it!

Just thought it was important to know as most believe
all Echo1 are rebranded JG's. Could be anything.

Are you a complete dumbass? Seriously. This kid is a fucking minor! Therefore, he's not allowed to own any ASGs.

And for the record, Trevor is a great guy, and ASKS for proof of age. Don't refer minors to him, you're just wasting his time.

As far as asking Trevor, Schwag or anyone affiliated with L.O.W. currently selling Echo or JG they will not provide services to anyone who is not age verified. For all local pickups or deals outside of the community ID is required and no sales will be made to anyone under 21. We also reserve the right to deny sales to anyone we feel may not use the article for it's intended purpose or without the attention to safety currently practiced by the community.

I myself have been denied and although bitter can understand.

Drink Beer

Exactly. So minors, go fork yerselves.

Can I ask one question?

Why can I bring my parents to Wal-Mart, Canadian Tire, or any other store, and buy an airsoft gun, or even a pellet gun that can actually do some serious damage, and be respected by those who I am dealing with, yet when I simply ask if it is possible to get a certain kind, and even follow your advice on how to get one, you guys blow up in my face about how I am somehow being an anchor on your hot air balloon?

Some "community" this is.

BTW for future referance a "Contract" is law yargon for the act of buying, selling, or trading anything. It is an agreement between two parties to the transaction of benefits (things).

Though I may be close to the thin ice, I don't see how this is such a problem as I (technically my parents through the contract with Canadian Tire) already own 3 airsoft guns and 1 pellet rifle.

You need to realise, those people who are respecting you, are out to make money. They are sales people, their respective company won't let them be mean to customers. The people here bitching you out, they aren't trying to sell you something. They wouldn't dare think about selling you something. You are not old enough. The law dictates anyone under 18 cannot even touch airsoft guns (well, i assume that is what they mean by not allowed to own one, hard to touch one if you can't own it). With the state of Airsoft, all it'll take is some dimwitted kid to get himself shot carrying a replica M16 through the woods to get the whole sport seriously looked at by a bunch of politians, then by worrying soccer moms, then it'll be banned. People are very portective of their sport.
Now you seem like a good mostly matured kid, but just man up and wait it out.

No.

Those people are there to make money. Chances are, they've never even read the damn pellet gun's box.

Well, it may seem shitty to you, but that's because you're too young to be here in the first place.

It's like going to a bar , and trying to order something. You'll get a "fork off" from the bar-tend. Can you Guess why? ... Let me give you a hint... it's the same reason you're not getting any respect here.

By the way, for future REFERENCE... read the FAQ about AGE. Respect the law.

Nice, y'know what that means, bud? It means you're already breaking the rules.

You always have the option to leave quietly if you're not happy with our self-regulation. Nobody is forcing you to be here. If you don't like it, the door's over there - don't let it hit your ass on the way out.

Your second option is to man up, admit that you're talking shit and you don't know the law and how it applies to you with regards to airsoft guns (and yes, there are people here who are actual lawyers who can tell you, not just spew bullshit) and do things the way the rest of the community does. This ensures goodwill between yourself (the outsider) and the people who you would like answers from and would, in the future when you're mature enough, be hosting the games you would probably enjoy attending (the community - that's us).

The third option is to continue to ignore the advice you're given, piss off the community, get yourself ostracized within the community, and sit at home posing and looking at your guns in the mirror, 'cause nobody is gonna let you play in their organized games if you're arrogant, self-centered, deceitful, egotistical fuckwit with a few dollars and an attitude who thinks this community owes them something.

Firstly, let me preface this by saying I'm old enough to be your dad. I own a real-steel AR15. Sure, I could hand it to my just-turned-18-year-old son and say "have fun, kid" and go back to renovating my basement. That doesn't make it ethically, morally, or legally acceptable. Just because you've done something already (or your parent's don't know something) doesn't make it right, or legal.

By allowing you (a child) to play around with an air rifle or airsoft gun unsupervised, your parents are breaking the law in just about every municipality in Canada.

Period.

Full stop.

End of sentence.

There's no other way to say it, son. They are breaking the law - whether you like the law, or whether they've broken it unwittingly in the past is irrelevant. When you break the laws, you put the hobby that the rest of us enjoy in jeapordy.

Seriously, son. Give your head a shake. You come into OUR house, demand WE answer your questions, tell us OUR rules are stupid, and get pissed off at us because WE try and steer you in the right direction and get frustrated when you won't listen?

Is there any wonder why people are getting so hostile towards you? You bring it on yourself whenever you open your mouth before you engage your brain....

Respect here is earned through both deeds and words, not post count. So far, you haven't earned squat, so the community owes you nothing.

Consider this to be an opportunity to change your way of thinking. There are people leaving doors open to you here, but you're so intent on doing things your own way that you're closing them just as quickly...

Were not trying to be a bunch of assholes here. Where just trying to help you out man. Seriously, Having you parents buy airsoft guns for you is just setting, you, your parents, and even us up for a bad situation. May not, could, might, shouldn't, it doesn't matter. Truthfully we hope for everyones sake that you wait till your 18. It will save all of us a huge problem. No one is here to point fingers at you and do our best to make things living hell. All that has been said is please wait till your 18.

As Skruface said, it is ILLEGAL to have you parents buy airsoft guns for you. All it takes is a phone call from a neighbour and the red surge will be knocking on your door. You can even go read all over this site about stuff that has happened in regards to breaches of the law with airsoft. It's giving us a bad rep.

So please do yourself a favor and wait.

most of us have the feeling of anxiousness when they're about to turn 18 then they can get their own airsoft. most of us waited for the special day. many of us read reviews, started saving up, read faqs, rules, age-verification process while earning respect and showing maturity on the board prior to them turning 18. Doing so won't waste you any time.

KSC GBB $350
WA GBB $390
TM M4A1 $390
Waiting till you're old enough to play/own .. Priceless.


+10 gay points!

First of all I will thank ToTaL_oWnAgE for at least being polite about it.

Secondly, I admit that I was trying to find loopholes in the law of purchasing an airsoft gun. But I was not trying to do so in order to disrupt the legal state of your hobby, or in anyway give you guys a bad rep.

Lastly, I will take the advice given to me, and wait untill I am 18 before I take part in purchasing anything from this site.

Good choice dude! I came across this site when i was about 16 and i'd be lying if i said it didn't seem like one hell of a long time to wait at first, but after awhile it sorta slips your mind and bext thing you know it's not that long :p