Originally Posted by kos (Post 471910)

Fuck those goddamn whiney assholes. Does noone have anything better to talk about? There's definately a correlation between "slow" (uneventful) weeks, and airsoft appearing in the news....

And why the FUCK doesn't the police worry about anything else? Seriously. They think about airsoft more than I do.

Originally Posted by *ATF*Feanor (Post 471931)

hey .. he took a footage that a friend have made last year at OP: Quickpass2!!! is that legit? ;)

Originally Posted by Capt. Tyco (Post 471927)

I have to agree with your first point. Whenever there is an uneventful news week airsoft always seems to come up. As for your second point I dont believe that the police are as worried about airsoft as the news would lead us to think. I can safely say this because we play airsoft at the same place the police come up to shoot at. They know full well that who we are and what we do, but so far have taken no interest whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Capt. Tyco (Post 471953)

my mistake, but my point still stands.

Originally Posted by snakeeater (Post 472100)

I think 007 may of noticed, they put up a disclaimer now
http://www.007airsoft.com/main.htm

Originally Posted by attack-beaver (Post 472152)

he did to prices went up..

Originally Posted by dontask (Post 472156)

what? did they?

Originally Posted by Razcal (Post 471958)

I have 2 police (OPP) standing here reading this right now, they could care less about busting airsofters. Just like anything else resembling a weapon " you point it at me and i will shoot "
I will get them both out to a game by summers end.

Originally Posted by jamilsaleem (Post 472172)

these asshole reporters just add bullshit to make thier new attractive enough...thats all, you dont find no news just go pick on random people....

Originally Posted by Jimski (Post 472427)

Yes
And I firmly believe it's just a good moral way for many journalists to get close to the ScaRy WoRld oF GuNzz **insert dramatic music here** without having to deal with their own frustration of not being part of it at all.

Those people are litteraly making their pathetic lives more exciting by screwing our hobby while showing off on their blatantly useless media networks.
makes me real sick.

Originally Posted by Dracheous (Post 472423)

You all do realise that if you're looking in the products some of those listings have not been updated since he last had the item in right? I mean when I look at the two AEG's he has IN STOCK the prices for them are not that different from what even ASCA was doing. Also his parts/mags are also not that much more expensive than any other retailers at the moment. Perhaps a few dollars but nothing drastic.

Originally Posted by Droc (Post 472512)

Reporters are always looking for stories that sell. A story about responsible airsofting doesnt sell. What sells is stories about guns, terror and anything that makes soccer moms scared. Possibly pre 9/11 we could have swung a story about how great and responsible we are, but not these days. Just cant spin assault rifles and machine guns into a positive thing.

And it seems like the reporter clearly is familiar with ASC if they can track down QP videos and know about our age rules....if they know that then Im sure they see the bad sides of ASC too. Tomorrows article could easily be about how the airsoft community reacted to the original article by calling the reporter names and such. We scream responsibility yet we lash back with anything but.
We know for a fact that the media reads whats on ASC, so lets try and react to this stuff as maturely as possible.

If we were smart, we would take it as constructive criticisms and email the reporter with our side and outline the positive steps we have taken and how we boycott retailers who are not responsible. They may care...prolly wont, but its all we can do to put our spin on things.


Perhaps ASC should have a statement that anything and everything on ASC is the property of ASC and cannot be used without permission.

Originally Posted by testtube (Post 472547)

someone should make a documentary

Originally Posted by Haggis (Post 471901)

I wish they could see the responsible side to our sport...they dont give baseball bad press and people have been robbing stores for years with baseball bats...hopefully the people monitoring these forums will see that we control our ways
cant find a link to the article anywhere online?...this is always percieved the wrong way by the public...i wish journalists would do thier homework..damn!

Originally Posted by F!reStorm* (Post 472532)

+1

I agree 100%, especially with the last part. If we can't do shit about the problem, at least we should try to cut ASC off their arguments bag by acting like mature and responsible people. When I saw the reportage, I almost choke myself to death when they mentionned ASC. Airsoft Canada and the keywords he used (Robbery, Injury and underage) shouldn't be presented in the media togeter, at least in my opinion.

Originally Posted by testtube (Post 472547)

someone should make a documentary

Originally Posted by DC_ACU (Post 472577)

sorry man, but i havent heard of a store getting robbed with a baseball bat in, well... never..
if some asshole came into a store where i worked at with a bat i think id laugh at him and find something sharp to cut'em up real bad with.

Originally Posted by jixton (Post 472722)

Did anyone see the article on the web... I did some search and found nothing.

Originally Posted by Kommandant_keen (Post 473155)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but under Canadian law, doesn't 'Replica' firearm mean it cannot shoot anything but look like the real thing? Thus airsoft should not be replica since it shoots BB's. I e-mailed the firearms agency a while back and that's what she told me. Maybe laws have changed since.

Originally Posted by Kommandant_keen (Post 473155)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but under Canadian law, doesn't 'Replica' firearm mean it cannot shoot anything but look like the real thing? Thus airsoft should not be replica since it shoots BB's. I e-mailed the firearms agency a while back and that's what she told me. Maybe laws have changed since.

Originally Posted by Cassius (Post 473479)

I've had the documentary idea in mind for over a year. If I can build up the right team then maybe next Summer I'll direct and produce one. I think I can get the funding and equipment easily so all is really missing is the time and the team.

The doc would explore the ideas of long established canadian airsoft figures (such as HoJo for example), of games themselves - inside and outside, of laws regarding airsoft, of the actions taken by players to make it more safe. It would also look in details on the airsoft gun, its upgrades and the mentality of players versus irresponsible people. It would also discuss it being a sport or a hobby and finally offer a public view in contrast of what has already been shown thus showing that there is a gap between airsoft and the visible minority that uses airsoft in a bad way.

Originally Posted by ancorp (Post 473293)

Brian there is one thing missing - it also must not be able to cause serious bodily harm to be considered a replica, thus replica pellet guns, like Umarex pistols, are perfectly fine (infact I have a couple), even though under 500fps/5.7fpe (or 4.3fpe? not sure of the exact number).

Some airsoft guns can do a reasonable amount of "harm" when compared to some airguns, so technically its a gray area as I see it.

Cheers,
Alex

Originally Posted by Canadian Fire-arms Center Website

3. Air guns that are replica firearms

These are air guns that are not powerful enough to cause serious injury or death, but that were designed to resemble a real firearm with near precision. Replica firearms, except for replicas of antique firearms, are classified as prohibited devices.

In particular, some air guns that are commonly called air soft guns may fall into this category. These are devices that have a low muzzle velocity and muzzle energy, and that usually discharge projectiles made out of a substance such as plastic or wax rather than metal or lead.

Although replica firearms are prohibited, you may keep any that you owned on December 1, 1998. You do not need a licence to possess them, and they do not need to be registered. However, as an individual, you cannot import or acquire a replica firearm. If you take a replica firearm out of Canada, you will not be able to bring it back in.

The Criminal Code sets out some penalties for using a replica firearm or any other imitation firearm to commit a crime.

The Canada Firearms Centre (CAFC) receives many enquiries from people wondering whether a low-powered air gun would be considered a replica if it resembles a real firearm in terms of its shape and size, but it is made of clear or brightly coloured plastic, or is much smaller in size.

Many of these devices have to be assessed on a case-by-case basis. As a general rule, however, those made out of clear plastic and those that are significantly smaller than the real version are not classified as replicas. Brightly coloured paint does not necessarily exclude a device from the definition of a replica. If you have questions about a particular make and model of air gun you may contact a firearms technician by calling 1 800 731-4000, ext 1060.