Complete Noob/Paintballer Getting into Airsoft
 

Hey,
Seeing how some other guys i know are getting into airsoft, i finally decided to look into it and see just how different it was from paintball.

So a few questions:

Is Airsoft just a MilSim version of Paintball?*Sorta Answered*

Is the velocity adjustable on the guns?*Answered*

Is there such a thing as a good cheap gun? (IF i do get into Airsoft, it would be on the lowest of low ends)*Sorta Answered*

Are all Airsoft guns horribly "Un-Durable" as my brother claims?*Answered*

Should you wear more protection then you would for paintball? *Answered*

Is THIS: http://www.zephyrpaintball.com/product/AS-PAL-M8M any good?

If that isint, were can i get a good (yet cheap) M8?

And Finally, is it impossible to ship Airsoft stuff from the US? *Answered*

thanks, and please forgive me if these questions are ubernoobish and were awnserd 1000s of times before.

read this link it has all the info you need to know

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21

Thanks man, but really that dosent help me much, 50% of those are on legal issues, and the other 50% seems to be only for those with a 500+ price range.
I want to shoot my friends, not buy an exact replica! lol

I would have forgiven you if you did not ask this question
really. the FAQ has answered this so directly that I'm just going to assume you're under 14 if you say the FAQ has only legal answers
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21
READ
it's a skill everyone needs

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/pr...romSearch=true
perfect.

Hey common, i wouldent have asked that if I read the FAQ first.
I originaly wrote this out on another site, but after waiting a few hours with not even a new view i decided to just paste it here, i started looking in the FAQ AFTER i pasted it.

Man, i would laugh but I'm starting to realize I just asked the equivalent of "I'm a Sniper" in paintball.

My G3 is 5 years old and its never broken down, the hopup has broken ONCE and miraculously fixed itself in 10 minutes, and its only ever had one jam from a black elite BB.
some guns are extremely reliable, poorly upgraded guns and alot of stock ones are not. Again, the more you pay the better the gun, just like paintball.
as for protection, i wear a pair of ballistic goggles, thats it.
some gas guns have adjustable velocity, standard AEG's require you to change the spring.
there are decent cheap guns, but it will cost alot more to upgrade from a decent gun than from a good gun.
It's illegal to import anything that looks like a gun (except clear with orange tip) into canada.
and the milsim aspect depends on your province. Manitoba is very milsim (IE military style training, no hicap magazines and some ops have realcap limitations)

*edit*
I think I might just be too harsh
what other questions do you want spoonfed *ahem* I meant answered

Thanks, thats a whole let better then SOME of the replys i'm getting!
All the same, I don't "plan" (note its PLAN) to get heavily into Airsoft, i may play once a month or something with 3 friends who for some reason want to get a airsoft gun above paintball.
So just Awnser me this, is there a canadian store where i can order an M8 for under 150$? Quality matters not, if i want to really get into Airsoft I'll buy a new gun.

hehe fine I'll answer
depending on how realistic you want your gun to be
buyairsoft was carrying the BE "M8" but they don't seem to be getting anymore in the near future
there really aren't any stores that will match your price range right now

OK thanks man, i took a look at that, seems like i wont be getting an M8 any time soon :(

"Airsoft
Airsoft is a term used interchangeably to refer to one or both of the following subjects:
A game in which players participate in the simulation of military or law enforcement combat with replica military firearms and military-style tactics
A replica firearm scaled either 1:1 (or perhaps as a ‘mini’ or ‘3/4′). It may be of metal or plastic, and usually fires 6 mm or 8 mm spherical projectiles weighing 110-600 milligrams (known as “BB”s). "
(source: wikipedia)

and no there simply aren't any cheap "good" guns right now that's selling in stores
ASC classifieds might have some but you'll need to be age verified to buy

btw the real term for the gun "M8" you were looking at is an "AUG"
if you save up for a while you should buy the TM AUG
I own one and simply love it

Try using the "EDIT" function on your posts instead of adding a crapload of new replies.

It can be. There are some games that are very much milsim, with realistic equipment loadouts, ammo restrictions, etc, and other games that are simple skirmishes, and a lot that fall somewhere inbetween.

Not usually. On some high performance gas guns it is but the average gun requires you to change the spring.

There are inexpensive guns of better quality coming out (and note, when I say inexpensive, I'm talking the $250-350 range), but their long-term reliability is unproven. For an airsoft gun that you know WILL work out of the box and WILL work for many years with normal maintenance, you're looking at $500+

NO. FirePower makes horrible shitty guns, most don't even have metel gearboxes.

You mean Styr AUG? Look at A&A surplus, they have a BE AUG. But remember, you get what you pay for. Don't expect a $300 gun to work like a $600 one.

That gun you posted the "firepower m8" is actually a Aug.
Firepower guns for lack of a better word are "horrible" but that still gives them to much credit. If you want something to hang on the wall they are perfectly fine for that.
Also an M8 would have been an XM8 which was a gun made by H&K and was slated to be the replacement for the M4 series weapons in the US. The project was put on hold to allow for other competitors and it appears that the FN SCAR will be used instead.
If you can find a Jing Gong or a low priced TM G36 as the XM8 was based off of the G36 series.
Also the best bet for a gun at a decent price would be one that is armalite (m series m4, m16, m15, m733, etc.) As they overpopulate the market. Also more parts and replacements parts are avalible for that series. But the gearbox is version 2 which also has the most problems, whereas the XM8, G36 have a much more reliable V3.
Well best of luck and have fun.

sorry I don't know how to edit and add a quote :p

you do as you do normally. you quote the guy then select the text you want, copy or cut it, return to the thread and click on edit under your post, paste the text there and click on save. you were saying in anothjer thread that the guy talked like a 14years old child... well, u just did too.

WTF IS GOING!? the forums are acting really strange

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h1...ak/stuff-1.jpg

Are you blind?

OK well, here it is in the plain truth: My opinion of Airsoft after looking into it for a weekend:

Airsoft is:
1: Not for guys my age (15)
It seems the "accepted" age is 18+, so that counts me out.

2:Borderline Illegal in Canada
If stores can get closed down for selling airsoft stuff, guns held at the border, and other like incidents, then Airsoft just seems to much of a grey area to me.

3:UBER expensive
part of the reason i wanted to try airsoft was the ridiculously low priced guns i saw on the net, and the incredible price of ammo (2000 balls at the PB field over here is 140$!) I was hoping to pay 100-150$, not 500+

4:Nobody to play it with
theres really no parks or other players (besides the guys i know who might not even end up buying anything)

*Flame guard starts here*
5:Paintball is better
Paintball FTW!!!
*Flame guard ends here*

Glad you realised that in time. Saves everyone a giant headache.

Maybe to you. However, the concept of running around (usually absolutely un-tactically) , shooting wildly, and cheating doesn't appeal to alot of people on these forums.

Hehehehe I knew i was asking for flame on the last one

I'm not flaming, I'm just stating the truth + my opinion.

I played paintball for over 2 years before I got into airsoft... The people that would show up were generally rich 14 year olds, with angel flies, and bob long intimidators. They had absolutely no clue how to operate with a team, not to mention operate their guns.

Meh, if that appeals to you... have fun with it.

The thing is:
2 leads to 3, which leads to 4.
1 is just a known fact.
5 is only true because Airsoft is generally expensive to get into (not saying paintball isn't ) and moreso because Airsoft is much harder to aquire.

5 is also because the general crowed that plays airsoft is older and more mature.

emphasis on general

To every rule there are exceptions lol

fixt!

Right. I forgot that part :p

Nothing wrong with paintball, except the attitude ON the field, here with airsoft at least the attitude is kept on the internet.

When we get to the field, the attitude is gone (for those of us who actually play, not just "shoot in my basement"). The real person, not the internet persona comes out, while in paintball (at least in Saskatchewan and Alberta where I have played quite often - might I add I have been playing since 88 and took part in the 97 and 98 Western Canadian Nationals for paintball held in Calgary at the Stampede Grounds) the attitudes are at the field and make other players generally feel like shit.

It's not much fun going out for a game of re-ball and having tournament players join you and ruin the day with their super-hyper had-one-too-many-circle-jerks-and-red-bulls that morning type of attitudes and then hear them gloat how they 'lit up' one of the girls on the opposite team, while she rips off her mask to wipe away the tears.

Yea, you're right, paintball is so much better than airsoft. Boy, is it ever.

http://www.pozland.com/avp


To quote my site...


http://www.pozland.com/avp/assault/airsoft3.jpghttp://www.pozland.com/avp/assault/pb3.jpg
So let me get this straight... your paintball gun will fire at 300fps max while my PSG-1 will fire 465fps? Think about that folks, 300fps is long enough for you to watch the paintball travel down the barrel and give you time to think "oh shit, I better move outta the way before that paintball comes and hits me in the head, thereby making me go back to respawn and waiting for the next game to start... boy... this sure is a lovely day. I hope that my mutual funds are doing well. Oop, better duck behind this barrel before it hits me. Oh nuts, I dropped my watch, better pick that up..... there we go. And behind the barrel I go." While with airsoft, you see a muzzel pop up and you MIGHT have enough time to say "Oh shi---..... HIT!"

ya, theres nothing wrong with paintball, the showing hits thing is a plus, theres a few cheaters in airsoft, but its a good honor sport nevertheless.
and as for the expensive part, you'd spend ALOT more money to get a paintball gun with the same performance as an upgraded airsoft gun.
not flaming, just my 2 cents.

Yeah, I played paintball too before I was 18... You're supposed to be 18 to buy paintball stuff, but not getting ID'd only encouraged me.

What really drew me to airsoft personally though was that I wanted more of a team / strategy oriented game. From what I understood, paintball is generally played as 'Speedball' (close quarters, no hiding, inflatable barricades, run like hell and hope you don't get murdered by the rich guy's full auto gun etc..). I loved to play in a larger, wooded area, but nobody ever played in the forest field, which was awesome and had wooden forts as the bases.

It did take me a while to finally get all my gear together for airsoft, but in all honesty, if I were as serious about paintball when I played as I am now about airsoft, I would have without a doubt spent the same ammount of money on paintball gear.

Oh, also, IMO airsoft guns are way cooler than paintball guns for the simple reason that they don't look like you cut up the plumbing from under your sink to make a gun ;)

Note: Good name, Shofixti... haven't heard that one in a while :)